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I am ready to get another credit card in my name. I already have the Chase Ink+, would I be eligible to get the Chase Ink Preferred (I think it's the one with 80,000 points sign up bonus right now)? The only cards I have right now are the CSR, the Ink+ and a Southwest card that I'm going to cancel as soon as my referral points come through. I've recently cancelled my BOA Alaska Airlines card that I got in Feb 2016 to get the $100 companion ticket for our trip to Hawaii.
I tried for the Chase Ink preferred last week and got denied for business not established long enough (1 year) and not enough revenue (16K). So, depending on what your business picture is like, it might be ok. What about CSP? 50K points . Product change to Freedom after a year.
 
I tried for the Chase Ink preferred last week and got denied for business not established long enough (1 year) and not enough revenue (16K). So, depending on what your business picture is like, it might be ok. What about CSP? 50K points . Product change to Freedom after a year.

she always has a Ink+ though, id assume her business income and status is there. Its a good card to apply simply for the 80k bonus. If not, id apply for the CSP for the 55k bonus, when thats done, id try the CSP --> CS --> CFU/CF after 3-4 months.
 
Hi everyone. I'm new to this thread but not these boards. I'm looking for some basic advice about using cc rewards to cover travel expenses. I'm not a total novice, I currently have the Chase Disney card (1%), almost never use it, and Amex Blue preferred which gives me 6% at grocery stores and 2% on gas (my 2 biggest monthly expenses). I had the SW Visa but closed it last year when I got my Amex. My question is, we can only do so much spending so are you opening the cards for their sign on bonuses, using them to get that bonus then just locking them away? Repeating this as new deals become available? My credit score is 798 last time I checked (down from 810 last year because I haven't taken a loan out recently). I don't want to substantially lower my score but if I could get hotels/flights covered by points its worth taking a small hit. If anyone has any recommendations or advice it is greatly appreciated. My biggest expenses (things I would be charging are travel, groceries, gas and department stores, groceries and travel being the biggest). DH is a small business owner, well established with excellent credit also if there is a deal available to him.
 
Hi everyone. I'm new to this thread but not these boards. I'm looking for some basic advice about using cc rewards to cover travel expenses. I'm not a total novice, I currently have the Chase Disney card (1%), almost never use it, and Amex Blue preferred which gives me 6% at grocery stores and 2% on gas (my 2 biggest monthly expenses). I had the SW Visa but closed it last year when I got my Amex. My question is, we can only do so much spending so are you opening the cards for their sign on bonuses, using them to get that bonus then just locking them away? Repeating this as new deals become available? My credit score is 798 last time I checked (down from 810 last year because I haven't taken a loan out recently). I don't want to substantially lower my score but if I could get hotels/flights covered by points its worth taking a small hit. If anyone has any recommendations or advice it is greatly appreciated. My biggest expenses (things I would be charging are travel, groceries, gas and department stores, groceries and travel being the biggest). DH is a small business owner, well established with excellent credit also if there is a deal available to him.

Hi and welcome! All of us here have different strategies and different priorities. I will share what I do and why. My priority is accumulating variable points and miles that we can use to fly both international and domestic first class. Here is my "street cred" for travel hacking: I've been playing the travel hacking game since 2012 and don't remember when we last paid for airfare out of pocket. DH and I maintain a balance of over 2 million points and miles. What we do has allowed us to book 5 first class RT flights on domestic airfare, 9 international RT trips flying in first class and this summer we are slumming it in business class to visit Scotland again :laughing: Every one of our international hotel stays was paid for with points as well. A few weeks ago we quite literally flew to London for the weekend just to see a play :rotfl2:When I began my credit score was in the high 700's. I apply for 5 or more credit cards each and every year and my credit score is now well into the 800s. Applications and new accounts give you a small hit on the score but the new credit line and lower utilization ratio will negate that hit. Do not close older credit cards as average age of account does play a large role in your score. Keep those in a drawer and make a small purchase with them at least once a year.

I'd advise focusing on variable point rewards that can be used to transfer to multiple airline frequent flyer programs and and hotel loyalty programs. The ones I focus on and why are as follows:

Chase Ultimate Rewards - UR points can be earned across multiple cards. The premium cards whose points can be transferred to hotel and airline partners: Chase Sapphire Reserve, Chase Sapphire Preferred, Chase Ink Plus Business (no longer available), Chase Ink Business Preferred. Transfer partners include - United, Southwest, British Airways, Korean, Air France KLM/Flying Blue, Singapore, Virgin Atlantic, Hyatt, Marriott, Ritz Carlton, IHG. The no fee cards that earn UR points are a valuable tool as well since their points can be transferred to the account and point balance of a premium card and then be used to transfer to airline/hotel partners and have more value for a travel booking through the UR travel portal when used as cash. Those cards are Freedom, Freedom Unlimited, Chase Ink Business Cash. ***Chase has an unwritten rule that they will automatically decline an applicant regardless of credit score or history as a Chase customer for UR card and some of their co-branded airline and hotel card applications if the applicant has opened up 5 new credit line accounts from any bank or store within the previous 24 months. Sometimes they will also count authorized user cards as a new account too.**** Therefore, get all of your Chase cards that fall under 5/24 first.

The Chase Sapphire Reserve is my Holy Grail of credit cards and what I'd recommend for you since travel is a big category spend for you. Don't let the annual fee scare you as the card is still worth getting for at least the first year even for people who don't travel. The AF is $450 but the card comes with an annual $300 travel credit so if you get the card this year your AF is down to $150 and when January 2018 rolls around you can get the $300 credit again which more than covered the AF if you choose to product change or cancel the card. It earns 3 UR points on travel and dining, comes with Priority Pass lounge access and $100 Global Entry credit. The sign up bonus is 50,000 UR points for spending $4,000 in 3 months. The 50,000 UR points can be used to purchase travel through the UR travel portal at 1.5 cents so the points have a value of $750. The Chase Sapphire Preferred has the same sign up bonus and spend, earns 2 UR points/$ on travel and dining and has a $95 AF.

To beef up my UR points I use a few other UR cards. The Chase Freedom has rotating categories every quarter that earn 5 UR/$ up to $1500 in spend. The Freedom points can't be used to transfer to airlines/hotels on their own. But, you can transfer your Freedom points into your Sapphire Reserve account and then they can be used to transfer to the airline and hotel partners. The Chase Freedom Unlimited earns 1.5 UR/$ which is good for non category spending.

I also use the Chase Ink Business Plus which is no longer available but you could get the same value with the Chase Ink Business Cash combined with a premium card. These cards earn 5 UR points/$ on cable, internet, phone and office supply stores, 2 UR points/$ on gas and restaurants. Office supply stores sell gift cards and we purchase gift cards at the office supply store for as many things as we can like Disney gift cards, Macy's, Whole Foods etc.

Amex Starwood Preferred Guest - SPG points can transfer 1:1 to over 30 airline frequent flyer programs. When you transfer 20,000 SPG points over you get a 5,000 point bonus as well. They can be used at hotel stays at Sheraton, Westin and now Marriott properties due to the merger. These points are the most valuable to me because they have so many transfer options. They are the slowest earning though because of the lack of bonus categories other than spend at an SPG property. They also cannot be used like cash to erase or pay for airfare. The sign up bonus can only be earned once as with all Amex cards. Currently, there is a very high, for SPG, sign up bonus at 35,000 for both the personal and business card.

Amex Membership Rewards - MR points transfer to 17 airlines, Hilton and SPG and can also be used as cash to pay for travel. I also like to utilize Amex offers for additional savings. Amex Everyday Preferred gets 3 MR points at U.S. supermarkets to $6,000 in spend/year, 2 MR points gas stations, plus a 50% points bonus when you use the card for 30 or more times per billing period minus returns and credits. If you value MR points at about 1.7 then this cards beats Amex Blue on value when you maximize the 30 transactions for the 50% bonus. The return is 7.6 on groceries, 5.1 on gas. If you don't hit the 30 transactions then the value is 5.1 groceries and 3.4 gas. Since I easily get more than 2.0 cents per point value with miles vs the 1.0 per point value with cash back I would take this card over the Blue even if not hitting the 30 transactions.

Whether or not a I keep a card really depends on the benefits beyond the bonus. My keeper cards that actually stay in the wallet and get used regularly when I am not trying to make a bonus spend on a new card are the SPG business card, Chase Sapphire Reserve, Chase Ink Plus, Chase Freedom, Chase Freedom Unlimited and Amex Everyday. The SPG business gets used to non category maybe higher priced items that I may need extended warranty/protection from Amex. The CFU is used for non category or lower priced items that won't need extended warranty.

Cards I keep for benefit only and don't put spend on are Chase IHG and Chase Marriott for the free annual night certificate that outweighs the fee. Chase United for extra availability on airline award tickets for card holders and the annual United lounge passes. Club Carlson card for the annual 40,000 bonus points which are worth more than the fee. Citi Prestige was going to get cancelled after a year but has a reprieve because I may be using that 4th night free hotel benefit in Iceland this year which would outweigh the fee if we decide to splurge and do that and of course I took advantage of the $250 annual airline credit. I recently got the Amex Platinum business card and am contemplating keeping that one long term. 50% MR reward points back when you redeem points for business class on any airline and coach class on your selected airline, $200 annual airline credit, Centurion lounge access, Delta lounge access, 10 free GoGo wifi passes, Marriott, Hilton and Starwood Gold status and the fine resorts and hotels benefits too.

So that is what I do, why I do it and some of the how I do it. I hope that helps.

My advice is get the CSR card (50,000 UR), the CSP card (50,000 UR) and the Chase Ink Business preferred (80,000 UR) all for the sign up bonuses first. Have your DH also get the exact same cards in order to double your bonus points balance. Start with the Business preferred as that high bonus may not last. If you can't each make the spend on the same card at the same time that is ok. Take them one at a time and alternate. Once you have all 3 and for a year and the AF is going to hit, I'd suggest product changing the Ink business preferred to the Ink business cash so you can max the bonus categories. If you spend at least $2100 per year in travel and dining then keep the CSR card and product change the CSP card to a Freedom unlimited. If not, keep the CSP and product change the CSR to the Freedom unlimited.
 
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@eeyoresmom --
Great, if complicated question.

There are many more people on this board who are far more experienced than I am (and I see the expert opinion got in right before me!) but I'll see if I can get you started on how I think about this.

1) Where do you want to go?
I say this because international v domestic and even international Europe v. Asia/Oceania often has different strategies (or perhaps merely HIGHER
goal strategies).

2) How do you want to go? (see above)

3) Where do you live-if you plan to fly-and what are the common carriers?

4) How flexible can you be if your plans don't work out just so?

I'll give you me for an example.
I love/live to vacation in Europe and have a long term goal (?2020?) of Australia/NZ.
I am a prima donna and prefer to fly up front.
I am in Pensacola, FL so Delta is our main airline but United and American serve here too.

So...Lesson on What Not To Do (kind of) skip if you want...

last year when I started this seriously I wanted to diversify my miles/points to take advantage of the 3 big carriers to our area. DH (finally after pulling teeth) and I both got our Chase Sapphire Reserve when the sign up bonus was 100,000 with the goal of transferring United Miles to fly to AMS for our Christmas trip this year. I added my Amex Reserve for Amex miles (and really to assist in skymiles mqms b/c I enjoy being a "valued Skymiles member" ;)). I also have the Amex EDP for Membership Rewards which I transfer to Delta. I have both the Citi AA and Barclaycard AA (Barclaycard was much easier to earn 40,000 miles-one purchase plus the $89 fee-whoo hoo!) because we thought we'd fly American back from our holiday trip. Whew. So fast forward and there wasn't availability on either AA to come home or United to fly to Europe for our trip on miles/points for 2 or 3 of us (yes, there were one seat availability but DH "likes to sit together, it's part of the vacation.") Drat. American miles went towards a spring break college tour trip and Easter trip for DD (and still have about 65,000 for me; 40,000 for DH) and our Chase UR were spent for hotels in Barcelona, Montreal, Sarasota, and a rental car in Sarasota. We still have about 125,000 UR waiting for some other use.

Clearly we have to realign our goals and if you asked me now whether it was worth it...well, we're flying to Edinburgh in Delta One and then I'm coming home and flying to London Delta One. So I think in the future I would probably commit to just one (or two carriers). But that's just me...

Another big mistake I made was when we had rental property I didn't obtain business cards. Amex has a business card which at one point was offering 100,000 MR points with ?4 or 5 K spend. Argh. Chase Business Ink (I believe) also has a lot of fans on these boards. Starwood Amex has a business card as well and I believe they have an increased offer until April or May (sorry since I'm not eligible I don't look anymore too painful :)). So hopefully you and DH could look into which one would have the most benefits for him.

Addressing the credit issues-mine has gone from 830 to 780 but during this time not only have I opened a few cards I also sold my house that had a mortgage (we paid for the new one in cold hard cash) so that had some effect on it (10 year mortgage with never missing a payment ---gone! Then again, no mortgage...). I'm watching it bounce back up as I'm refraining from opening any more cards for a while.


It sounds like you view cards like many of us do-a tool. When I go out, I think "how am I going to get the most bang for my buck?"

Eating out-Chase Sapphire Reserve- 3X (we eat out...a lot...)

Groceries- AmEx EDP (Apr-Jun Chase Freedom- 5% back category...but honestly I'm just going to buy $1500 worth of gift cards so then back to AmEx)

Gas (currently Chase Freedom 5% back, starting in April Amex EDP)

Expenditures over $200 AmEx Reserve until I hit my 30 K spend ( for mqm because I'm a superficial status person ;))

Expenditures under $200 Discover It (1% cash back plus another 1% at the end of my first anniversary...it also has 5% cash back reward categories-Jan-Jun is Warehouse so you know I'm buying lots of Disney Gift Cards with it!).

Travel-I usually use my Amex for Delta and Chase Sapphire Reserve for all other travel (for the most part)

Online purchases-I go to evrewards and see what is the highest redemption then usually use that portal.

Whew-still with me? So if it looks like Chase has a good card for you, then I'd do them first since they have the 5/24 rule (won't approve card application if you've obtained more than 5 credit cards from any company in the past 24 months), then some of the others that might help. American Express has a One Bonus Per Lifetime Per Card rule so if one of those seems worthwhile, make sure it's the highest bonus (or close) offered.

I do hope this helped. If not...sorry for the long post :)

Shay
 
@calypso726 and @tink1970 , Thank you sooo much, you both are so helpful. I will come back to answer more ( running to the bank before it closes!) but we travel EVERYWHERE but doesn't have to be first class. Last year we vacationed in Italy, France, Mexico and Disney x2. Some trips are just DH and I, some are with the adult kids. We do spend more on hotels to ensure good locations and amenities but we will fly any airline, no loyalty at all!
 
@eeyoresmom --
Great, if complicated question.

There are many more people on this board who are far more experienced than I am (and I see the expert opinion got in right before me!) but I'll see if I can get you started on how I think about this.

1) Where do you want to go?
I say this because international v domestic and even international Europe v. Asia/Oceania often has different strategies (or perhaps merely HIGHER
goal strategies).

2) How do you want to go? (see above)

3) Where do you live-if you plan to fly-and what are the common carriers?

4) How flexible can you be if your plans don't work out just so?


Shay

Thanks for the compliment :flower3: Compared to the bloggers most of us follow, I barely know what I'm doing. But it still works for us so I am thrilled!

As for the bold part I quoted, well said @tink1970 !!! This is an extremely important key to travel hacking that I neglected to mention. This is why this group is so awesome! :grouphug:

@eeyoresmom - The variable points and miles that I referred to earlier are excellent for long term strategies and allow for greater flexibility especially as backup plans when plan A doesn't pan out for you.

I am normally planning our trips 2 years out. I give myself one year to get the points/miles I think I may need and allow myself to have them in place a year before actual booking after figuring out what airline I am likely to use to get where I want to go. The strategy that @tink1970 gave you is exactly what I do as well.

Twice now, I've had plan A not work out the way I intended and had to resort to plan B to make it work. Both were for trips this year. In 2015 I knew we'd be going to both Hawaii and Iceland in 2017. AA miles seemed our best bet for an award ticket in first. On the off chance I didn't find any when the time came I also chose to pick up both a Citi Prestige and Premier card. This would allow us to redeem AA paid flights with Thank You points at 1.8 cents in value per point. As it turned out we were able to find flights from FLL-HNL in first for 37.5 AA miles and $5.60 in taxes. Could not find any award tickets in first to get from HNL - LAX since we were stopping in Disneyland for a few days before coming home. We used Citi Thank you Points to purchase our flights. We did find award tickets with miles through the airline back home in first as well. We just got back from this trip on Tuesday.

Iceland is planned for Thanksgiving this year. Since DH has turned into a princess when it comes to flying, I couldn't talk him into flying on one of the budget carries like Wow air. He insists on flying in business or first on any flight that exceeds 3 hours :snooty: His argument is that if we spend time and energy playing this game then we should use it to fly up front. So, I figured Delta would be my best bet for award tickets in a lie flight seat on Delta One. We each picked up the Delta personal and business card when they were at 70,000 sky pesos each. Delta's award flights from MIA - KEF were 350,000 sky pesos per person :eek: Uhm, no. Just on principle, no. I was not transferring any of our SPG or MR points to Delta to beef up our Sky Pesos balances for these award flights. Plan B was pay for them with UR points through the UR travel portal. We used a little over 187,000 UR points each to purchase the flights and will also earn the butt in seat miles on Delta. I am sure we will find a decent use for our Sky Pesos down the line.
 
Ink Preferred is rumored to go up to 100k for everyone. would hold off until then. Chase sign up bonuses are very predictable so dont worry about going losing out.

I would also suggest getting the Ink Cash instead of Ink Preferred, but 80k/100k signup bonus is pretty nice.
 
Ink Preferred is rumored to go up to 100k for everyone. would hold off until then. Chase sign up bonuses are very predictable so dont worry about going losing out.

I would also suggest getting the Ink Cash instead of Ink Preferred, but 80k/100k signup bonus is pretty nice.

Good to know! Sigh, no way I can qualify to get the Ink Preferred thanks to 5/24 and the loophole we used to get the CSR being closed. I'd say get both if possible and then cancel the Preferred and keep the Ink if you have a premium card to transfer UR points to. I agree if it comes down to choosing just one and keeping for exploitation of bonus categories and keeping the Ink Cash.
 
@eeyoresmom- sounds like you enjoy your travel! I'd agree that the CSR and CSP would be my first cards to get- so many opportunities for redemption (I'm sort of jealous of the hotel I booked for my parents in Barcelona!).

@calypso726-thanks for the kind words :o
 
Good to know! Sigh, no way I can qualify to get the Ink Preferred thanks to 5/24 and the loophole we used to get the CSR being closed. I'd say get both if possible and then cancel the Preferred and keep the Ink if you have a premium card to transfer UR points to. I agree if it comes down to choosing just one and keeping for exploitation of bonus categories and keeping the Ink Cash.
Tips for applying for this if I don't have a real business? An EBay business or Etsy?
 
Tips for applying for this if I don't have a real business? An EBay business or Etsy?

You list yourself as sole proprietor and you won't need an EIN just use your ss#. I used my real job income combined with my business income. Examples of businesses besides Ebay, Etsy and Amazon that you may have an not realize are businesses are pet sitting, pet grooming, distributor of essential oils and other MLMs, part time travel agent, blogger etc. just to name a few. Darius of MMS has a nice how to on business card applications http://millionmilesecrets.com/2015/09/13/how-to-qualify-for-a-small-business-credit-card-and-why-you-should-get-one
 
Tips for applying for this if I don't have a real business? An EBay business or Etsy?

i used rental income + personal income as my business income. also Sole Proprietor but what sucks is that your name will be printed twice on the card haha. Its worth a shot though. If you dont get the first time around, just wait for your rejection letter before you call the bank.
 
i used rental income + personal income as my business income. also Sole Proprietor but what sucks is that your name will be printed twice on the card haha. Its worth a shot though. If you dont get the first time around, just wait for your rejection letter before you call the bank.

When you used the rental income, did you use what it brings in or what you actually make after all the fees, insurance etc? One my mortgage and everything else is factored in I don't make much which is why I'm curious.
 
I read a lot on this tread about the rotating rewards on cards like discover and chase. If anyone is wanting a constant 5% gas card Sam's Club is the way to go. I like that the cash back comes when statement closes but I find myself using the rebate. With Sam's Club the rebate comes back in a check every February. Also, the Sam's Club credit card also gets 3% back on dinning/travel. I use this for air fare since I am not loyal to any company I fly whichever is cheapest. Love it.
 
When you used the rental income, did you use what it brings in or what you actually make after all the fees, insurance etc? One my mortgage and everything else is factored in I don't make much which is why I'm curious.

rental income, how much im bringing in. I deposit the rent to my chase account, then i transfer it to a business account else where. then the fees, insurance comes out of there. I honestly dont think Chase would know...
I do deposit for 3 house rentals so it does make a huge increase and decrease in my account. I do also have my occupation set as Real Estate Agent though.
 
I read a lot on this tread about the rotating rewards on cards like discover and chase. If anyone is wanting a constant 5% gas card Sam's Club is the way to go. I like that the cash back comes when statement closes but I find myself using the rebate. With Sam's Club the rebate comes back in a check every February. Also, the Sam's Club credit card also gets 3% back on dinning/travel. I use this for air fare since I am not loyal to any company I fly whichever is cheapest. Love it.

I never read about the Sam's card on the blogger articles. Likely, because the focus is on travel and getting the cash back or ability to use points immediately. On the cash back cards they usually write about the Barclay Arrival, Citi Double Cash, Venture and Amex Blue. The Sam's card seems like a nice method to max a cash back back card for those who don't mind waiting and can get great value from the bonus categories. Thanks for sharing that!
 
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I never read about the Sam's card on the blogger articles. Likely, because the focus is on travel and getting the cash back or ability to use points immediately. On the cash back cards they usually write about the Barclay Arrival, Citi Double Cash, Venture and Amex Blue. The Sam's card seems like a nice method to max a cash back back card for those who don't mind waiting and can get great value from the bonus categories. Thanks for sharing that!

before i got involved with Chase UR, Sams Club was on my list on card to apply. It does have a $45 AF(for sams club membership) and it comes to you in check form and u have to go to sams club to cash it. I ended up picking another card over it (Salle Mae Mastercard). It comes close to Costco citi card though, 4% gas, 3% travel/dining, 2% costco. Its weird that the Sams Club doesnt have a category for its own stores...

Good card though, but still rather earn UR pts! haha.
 
I read a lot on this tread about the rotating rewards on cards like discover and chase. If anyone is wanting a constant 5% gas card Sam's Club is the way to go. I like that the cash back comes when statement closes but I find myself using the rebate. With Sam's Club the rebate comes back in a check every February. Also, the Sam's Club credit card also gets 3% back on dinning/travel. I use this for air fare since I am not loyal to any company I fly whichever is cheapest. Love it.
I'm glad you brought this up.
I have a Sam's Club Mastercard that I got when I joined Sam's last September, and other than using it one time in the store (that day actually, they gave me my card number and I got a nice discount on my purchases), I've never used it. It's been stuck in a drawer ever since, mainly because I was thinking the means of redeeming cash back (once a year via check that has to be cashed at Sam's) was not the best.

But, if that check is at least $45 (and I drive a gas-guzzling F-250 pick-up plus have to put gas in two large mowers during mowing season (seven and a half acres to mow), then that cash back could effectively pay my Sam's membership.

Huh. Time to dust off that card!

So glad you posted!! Thanks!
 
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