I hate to pile on, but....

[Glorydaz]

That during one of the most busy times of the year, with just one week notice, that you can still get into SSR.



Buy where you want to stay....

I too am not looking to start a war BUT I am truly glad I own SSR!! nice to know, on such incredibly short notice, I can get a room (suite) of this high a caliber in Disney..wish I had a conference to go to!

 

[abk96]

This thread is just too funny!!

 

[Brian430]

I took a pass on SSR - even though I could stay there on points.

Didn't want to waste them.

Not to rub it in, but this is the second conference I'll be attending in April.

What can I say, it's a good gig.

- B

 

[WDWMom]

Saratoga Springs' relative lack of appeal has never been more apparent to me than right now.

I just found out I'm attending a trade show in Orlando from April 4-7.
Out of all the hotels on Disney property – the values, moderates, luxury –there is only one that has any rooms available right now. Wanna guess which one?

You simply cannot get on property during those days in any hotel other than Saratoga Springs. Don't believe me?

Try yourself: http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/wdw/index

If you ask me, all the talk about this mamouth, yet ultimately unappealing resort, upsetting the supply and demand of the DVC system is not
merely exaggeration nor is it an issue of subjectivity.

It's a fact.

And the death of the 7-month reservation option is inevitable.

Buy only where you want to stay, kids.

And from the looks of it that means buy a resale at anywhere but SSR.

The time during April 4-7 is Spring Break for most of West MI. We'll be there at OKW - 2bdrm. Made our ressies after Christmas. Could have gotten a 1 bdrm at WL at the time too, but needed a 2 bdrm.

 

[Sammie]

FW Cabins are available too, if you check about 5 days out you might even get more choices. As everyone else has said it is Spring Break, a very busy time of the year to book Disney a week before your arrival.

 

[Jen D]

Actually, I'm not coming up with any studios available at SSR, just 1 and 2 bedrooms.

There are 1 bedrooms (but no studios) at OKW as well, 1 bedrooms at BWV and 2 bedrooms at VWL.

But no studios available for any home away from home resorts, including SSR.

Some values are also available.

Anyway, some SSR availability would be a given. Since the resort is still under contstruction, new rooms are being released into inventory every day.

I'm sorry, I just am not sure what you think your experience proves. I guess it proves two people can get completely different results from a WDW booking search.

Enjoy the Celebration Hotel, though, I hear it is lovely.

 

[WDWMom]

That during one of the most busy times of the year, with just one week notice, that you can still get into SSR.

My point is not that I feel robbed I can't get into the Disney resorts; I expected them to be booked during spring break season. My point is how sad it is that you can still get into SSR –*a brand new Disney resort.

Every hotel, including BWV which is bigger right now than SSR, and every Downtown Disney hotel, and alll the value hotels, which are bigger the SSR are booked.

At SSR, however, you can waltz right in.

That is my logic: SSR has less appeal than every single hotel on Disney property including the non-Disney hotels.

And as Disney continues to sell people on SSR based on the strength of the being able to stay at the other DVC resorts – it will create a lopsided demand curve for the other resorts.

Buy where you want to stay....

Could it be because it is new and people don't like change. PLus, I would imagine SSR costs a boatload more that AS, POP and the moderates. Not sure how it compares in price to deluxes. Not everyone want to pay extra for the kitchen if they are not going to cook. I think comparing SSR to anything other than other DVC resort is like comparing apple and oranges.


Like I have said before and others have stated.....

This argument is getting old.

 

[popsmensahbonsu]

I took a pass on SSR - even though I could stay there on points.

Didn't want to waste them.

Not to rub it in, but this is the second conference I'll be attending in April.

What can I say, it's a good gig.

- B

Brian,

First time poster. You are right on the money with your posts. I took the SSR tour and almost started laughing. They spent the whole time talking about booking other DVC Resorts. It didn't take me long to catch on.


Pops

 

[castleri]

Guess I was really fortunate that when I called CRO This week I was able to have several choices of hotels with my AP rate - decided on POR for April 6 and 7 so guess things have really booked up in the last three days. My points are already being borrowed from 2007 for the Sept and Dec trips so couldn't use them for SSR. A friend has now offered us the MB in his 2 BR at OKW for the 7th so will be cancelling one of my 2 nights at POR- I'll be at Disney and being at any of the resorts is great with me.

 

[Simba's Mom]

I'm guessing that maybe SSR's newness has something to do with it. Not everyone who goes to WDW is as savvy as a DISer. Many are just first time guests who maybe read whatever guidebook they could get their hands on (so what if it's a few years old, right?) or they asked someone else who went to WDW several years ago for advice. The average first-timer probably doesn't even know anything about SSR, positive or negative. So I'm guessing some of its availability is due to newness and the word of its existence hasn't gotten around that much.

 

[lizanne]

Don't know if you ever visited SSR (I guessing no), but the rooms are really nice. We stayed there last December, by choice ( home is OKW ) and liked it very much.

If you're thinking of a layout similar to OKW you're wrong. Access to the various floors is by elevator.

No it doesn't have the same location as BWV and BCV, but neither do most of all the other WDW resorts, just like most aren't monorail resorts.

In Nov, on short notice, I needed a room for one night and the only thing available in all of WDW (including cash not points) was a studio in OKW. Even though the rest of our nights were at SSR I couldn't get that additonal night there. I'm not worried about a lopsided demand curve.

I guess the only thing that matters is that your happy with your choice.

 

[BuckRodgers1999]

Concerning the original post, I do not want to pick on any DVC resorts, owners pick their resorts for their own reasons. I get to choose where I stay, why should I have any issue with anyone elses purchasing decision.

I really wondered about your other statement, why is the 7 month reservation option dead? What's that mean? I haven't heard about that.

 

[Luigi's Girl]

That during one of the most busy times of the year, with just one week notice, that you can still get into SSR.

My point is not that I feel robbed I can't get into the Disney resorts; I expected them to be booked during spring break season. My point is how sad it is that you can still get into SSR –*a brand new Disney resort.

Every hotel, including BWV which is bigger right now than SSR, and every Downtown Disney hotel, and alll the value hotels, which are bigger the SSR are booked.

At SSR, however, you can waltz right in.

That is my logic: SSR has less appeal than every single hotel on Disney property including the non-Disney hotels.

And as Disney continues to sell people on SSR based on the strength of the being able to stay at the other DVC resorts – it will create a lopsided demand curve for the other resorts.

Buy where you want to stay....

I'm confused. Isn't it a GOOD thing that SOMETHING has a vacancy on property! Of course it doesn't appeal to all peoples wants and needs and if that's the case then just move of property(as you're doing). It makes perfect sense why such a large resort, that isn't necessarily what most vacationers (non DVC members) tend to be looking for, has rooms available. Before I owned DVC I would never have considered any of the villas because they just wouldn't have been in our budget. I would say they have room there because they have plenty of them, not because of some of the reasons stated by the He Man SSR Haters Club!

 

[PinkTink63]

Saratoga Springs' relative lack of appeal has never been more apparent to me than right now.

I just found out I'm attending a trade show in Orlando from April 4-7.
Out of all the hotels on Disney property – the values, moderates, luxury –there is only one that has any rooms available right now. Wanna guess which one?

You simply cannot get on property during those days in any hotel other than Saratoga Springs. Don't believe me?

Try yourself: http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/wdw/index

If you ask me, all the talk about this mamouth, yet ultimately unappealing resort, upsetting the supply and demand of the DVC system is not
merely exaggeration nor is it an issue of subjectivity.

It's a fact.

And the death of the 7-month reservation option is inevitable.

Buy only where you want to stay, kids.

And from the looks of it that means buy a resale at anywhere but SSR.

Here we go again!!!! This has been done and done before! All I have to say is...... Some people actually bought SSR because they like it, and I might add, that I am one of them!
Sorry, that you don't care for it. I am also glad that I might be able to get my home on short notice!
Daitcher, is that you posting under another name?

 

[Brian430]

I'm actually very glad that there is a handful of my fellow Disney-web geeks who love the place. I wish more people felt the same because an even demand for all the resorts will serve us all better in the long run.

But the current demand for SSR rooms don't suggest that to be the case.

The reason this will affect the 7-month window (for the person that asked) is that SSR will eventually be the largest DVC resort. Now, if there is a lopsided demand with this resort, meaning there are more SSR buyers looking to stay at the Wilderness Lodge than there are Wilderness Lodge buyers looking to stay as SSR (as one example) then we've got a problem.

SSR is big enough that we will soon have enough DVC members all competing for rooms at the 7-month reservation window.

The slowest person to dial 800-******** stays at SSR.

By the way, of course I toured the SSR property. I own at two DVC resorts already and would not be opposed to adding more points. I was astounded that the same company that could build VWL, BWV, HH, VB and BCV could develop such an uninspired resort.

The actual rooms are fantastic, but the overall resort is ultimately underwhelming.

I think rather than trying to fix what was a very cool concept with the Disney Institute, WDW went for the quick buck and built a condo complex, knowing the DVC business model and sales pitch could probably compensate for the lack of imagination and forethought.

The lack of planning and "imagineering" is real a shame too since that was such a prime and lush chunk of land. They could have built something truly special with that property. Now, it's mostly a parking lot.

And the fact that you can still get a room there with just one week's notice during spring break season tells me I'm not the only who has noticed this.

I don't think it's because the property is new either. VWL had steady demand the moment the doors opened. So did BCV.

If you honestly like it then God Bless. But I have to wonder how many SSR defenders are simply "pot-committed," as they say in Vegas. Meaning you've ante'd up so much cash into the pot, that it's too late for you to say this resort has some serious deficiencies when compared to the other DVC resorts.

If I sank another $12K into that place I might be saying, "hey so what if there's only one themed pool in a resort the size of Connecticut? Besides it takes so long to walk to the pool I didn't want to go anyway."

 

[Brian430]

If all the DVC properties but one are booked then it most definitely is not a good thing.

It means that SSR buyers are choosing to stay at other resorts while non SSR owners don't care to reciprocate.

What would be a goood thing is if all the DVC resorts were equally appealing rather than have one giant complex that people stay at only because they had to.

 

[Jen D]

If all the DVC properties but one are booked then it most definitely is not a good thing.

It means that SSR buyers are choosing to stay at other resorts while non SSR owners don't care to reciprocate.

What would be a good thing is if all the DVC resorts were equally appealing rather than have one giant complex that people stay at only because they had to.

But aren't we talking apples and oranges here? --Besides the fact that my results were different than yours (I found no studios at SSR or anywhere else but one/two bedrooms at SSR, OKW VWL, and BWV)-- the search we're running on the Disney site or by calling CRO is showing the cash reservations available, which is a completely different animal than ressies on points. Rooms are available to be booked for cash when an owner trades out of the DVC system or if the rooms are unsold (and of course SSR is still currently being sold.) So whatever the availability of cash rooms is unrelated to the issue of SSR members trading out to other DVCs. When an SSR decides to use points at BCV, the room he doesn't use wouldn't be showing up as a cash reservation. It could only be booked through DVC. So whatever availability you found has nothing to do with SSR owners not staying at their home resort.

Again, SSR is bound to have plenty of short-term availability for cash customers as long as it is still under construction and not 100% sold out. And I just double checked my search again to make sure and still, no SSR studios or any DVC studios at all for your dates, but 1 and some 2 bedroom availability at all home away from home resorts except BCV. So it isn't even true that only SSR is available.

 

[Tinky]

I'm actually very glad that there is a handful of my fellow Disney-web geeks who love the place. I wish more people felt the same because an even demand for all the resorts will serve us all better in the long run.

But the current demand for SSR rooms don't suggest that to be the case.

The reason this will affect the 7-month window (for the person that asked) is that SSR will eventually be the largest DVC resort. Now, if there is a lopsided demand with this resort, meaning there are more SSR buyers looking to stay at the Wilderness Lodge than there are Wilderness Lodge buyers looking to stay as SSR (as one example) then we've got a problem.

SSR is big enough that we will soon have enough DVC members all competing for rooms at the 7-month reservation window.

The slowest person to dial 800-******** stays at SSR.

By the way, of course I toured the SSR property. I own at two DVC resorts already and would not be opposed to adding more points. I was astounded that the same company that could build VWL, BWV, HH, VB and BCV could develop such an uninspired resort.

The actual rooms are fantastic, but the overall resort is ultimately underwhelming.

I think rather than trying to fix what was a very cool concept with the Disney Institute, WDW went for the quick buck and built a condo complex, knowing the DVC business model and sales pitch could probably compensate for the lack of imagination and forethought.

The lack of planning and "imagineering" is real a shame too since that was such a prime and lush chunk of land. They could have built something truly special with that property. Now, it's mostly a parking lot.

And the fact that you can still get a room there with just one week's notice during spring break season tells me I'm not the only who has noticed this.

I don't think it's because the property is new either. VWL had steady demand the moment the doors opened. So did BCV.

If you honestly like it then God Bless. But I have to wonder how many SSR defenders are simply "pot-committed," as they say in Vegas. Meaning you've ante'd up so much cash into the pot, that it's too late for you to say this resort has some serious deficiencies when compared to the other DVC resorts.

If I sank another $12K into that place I might be saying, "hey so what if there's only one themed pool in a resort the size of Connecticut? Besides it takes so long to walk to the pool I didn't want to go anyway."

Yep.... thought so... SSDD... Same stuff different Daitcher...
Weak at best Dave....very very disappointing

 

[LIFERBABE]

Jen D, I agree.

I dont know why the concept of SSR not being fully built yet will afford last minute availability is so hard to grasp.

If you are planning a last minute trip, SSR will be available. Get over it! It says nothing! As soon as the paint dries, they are releasing the units to inventory, points and cash.

SSR does not have enough members to occupy all the units yet. Right now the number of rooms is infinite because it is what they have today plus what they complete tomorrow.

The other resorts have a definite amount of units and they are all available to be booked at 11 months. SSR has not had a definite 11 month window yet and will not until Phase III is completed.

I for one am very pleased to know that I can call at short notice and SSR will have rooms available because said rooms are currently under construction.

Have a great stay at Celebration!

 

[3DisneyNUTS]

Saratoga Springs' relative lack of appeal has never been more apparent to me than right now.

I just found out I'm attending a trade show in Orlando from April 4-7.
Out of all the hotels on Disney property – the values, moderates, luxury –there is only one that has any rooms available right now. Wanna guess which one?

You simply cannot get on property during those days in any hotel other than Saratoga Springs. Don't believe me?

Try yourself: http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/wdw/index

If you ask me, all the talk about this mamouth, yet ultimately unappealing resort, upsetting the supply and demand of the DVC system is not
merely exaggeration nor is it an issue of subjectivity.

It's a fact.

And the death of the 7-month reservation option is inevitable.

Buy only where you want to stay, kids.

And from the looks of it that means buy a resale at anywhere but SSR.

Oh brother The sky is falling again