I got yelled at!

[jdcthree]

OK, I must say I am now confused. So many people have stated that it's a "rule" that you can't take pictures on any ride, but I never heard any of this when I was at Disney the first two times! If the announcement was made, obviously I didn't do it, but like someone else said, the announcement being made only on certain rides leads one to believe it's OK on rides without the announcement/sign.

Now Buzz Litebeer says all of those people are wrong and you can take pictures on certain rides. I don't want to go back this year and be rude or ruin anyone's ride experience so I'll likely take one quick picture where I think it's appropriate and then put the camera away before I get a tongue-lashing.

 

[Buzz Litebeer]

They do say on certain rides "no flash photography" but not on all rides. I think it just annoys you, so you have decided to state what you wish was a rule as fact. I agree that on the rides where they tell you not to use flash that you should not, but I have never seen a written rule by Disney saying that flash photography was not allowed on ANY ride or at ANY attraction. You are off base with that one.

 

[Buzz Litebeer]

Now Buzz Litebeer says all of those people are wrong and you can take pictures on certain rides. I don't want to go back this year and be rude or ruin anyone's ride experience so I'll likely take one quick picture where I think it's appropriate and then put the camera away before I get a tongue-lashing.

Well, what I said was:

If there are no signs or announcements at the attraction stating otherwise (as is the case at the Haunted Mansion, Dinosaur! or Pirates, among others), guests may take as many flash photographs as they like.

Some attractions (like the Country Bear Jamboree) even encourage flash photography at designated times.

I said this mainly because it bothers me to see guests spreading misinformation that negatively impact another guest's vacation. Some guests, like the one in the original post, might have been annoyed by the use of the flash photography in attractions where it's not prohibited, but last time I checked, there's nothing guaranteeing you the right not to be offended by the behavior of other guests at WDW.

If you ever have any questions about the appropriate use of photography, flash photography, video recording, or video recording with a light source, please see a Cast Member at the show or attraction for clarification. Additionally, you may always visit Guest Services for more information.

 

[safetymom]

How many guests do you think are going to ask a CM or guest relations if it is ok to take flash photography???

 

[Buzz Litebeer]

How many guests do you think are going to ask a CM or guest relations if it is ok to take flash photography???

Hopefully more now that I posted what I did than would have otherwise. I always do if I'm uncertain if it's allowed or not.

Certainly, if the offended guest in the OP had complained to a CM, they would have let her know what the policy was at Peter Pan's Flight, and the OP wouldn't have felt harassed for doing something that's perfectly permissible to do.

 

[dqpowell]

From a biology standpoint, they don't want flashes on cameras on the Safari (not that a decent photographer would, since it's daylight out there anyway)

A decent photographer would know that there are many situations in which flash use in daylight is quite beneficial.

because most animals see differently than humans do

This is true of many animals, but it is not true that most mammals, which are the primary attractions on the Safari ride, do. At least not to a degree significant enough to matter w/r/t their sensitivity to electronic flashes in daylight.

and could potentially react badly to being startled by flashing cameras.

Camera flashes emit light at ~5500K to match midday sunlight as closely as possible. Since they emit almost entirely in the visible spectrum, without the additional UV and infrared components that make up real sunlight, flashes are actually less damaging to animals than the daylight streaming down on them all day. In any case, even the most powerful modern camera flashes can't compete with the sun in terms of total brightness, and are no more damaging or disturbing to the animals in daylight than the mere presence of humans watching them in the first place is.

My experiences photographing many mammals and birds also indicates that they are not startled by electronic flash use in daylight.

I agree that taking flash pictures in dark rides is both distracting and rude.

David

 

[livie1205]

just because some people dont like it that does not make it a disney rule....there ARE some inside rides you can take pictures on..also that lady had no right to yell at you..she is lucky it wasnt me, most people to not take strangers yelling at them to well....also if people taking pictures bothers you so much (cause people are going to do it anyway) dont go...not everyone who goes to disney comes here for info. therefor they will not know alot of this stuff.

 

[BamaFan121s]

oops..double post

 

[BamaFan121s]

How many guests do you think are going to ask a CM or guest relations if it is ok to take flash photography???

Actually, I asked if I could take one inside RnR on the last tirp and asked if I could take flash pics in Small World (yes) and Pirates (no). All because of reading about it being an 'issue' here on the board.

I will say some of the topics discussed here have definately made me more aware of my own actions in the world. (For the better, I think.) There are some things that I honestly had no clue were such big problems that I now make more effort to be aware of. If it's something I question and a cast member says it's OK, all I can say is 'too bad' for anyone it annoys so long as I am within my 'legal Disney right.'

The whole fact that someone would have an issue w/ ppl taking pics, in Disney World (a public place), while they are on vacation baffles me. I mean, you'd think it was a given...?

 

[dqpowell]

Sorry, but you're all quite wrong. If there are no signs or announcements at the attraction stating otherwise (as is the case at the Haunted Mansion, Dinosaur! or Pirates, among others), guests may take as many flash photographs as they like.

Sorry, Buzz, but you're mistaken in at least one case. I clearly remember announcements about flash photography being prohibited on Pirates.

In addition, I direct you to the following web page, published by WDW, stating that flash photography is prohibited on Pirates:

http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/wdw/parks/attractionDetail?id=PiratesoftheCaribbeanAttractionPage

Frankly, I'm surprised that the web pages for DINOSAUR and the Haunted Mansion don't list similar prohibitions; bright flashes really ruin the magic, allowing certain "behind the scenes" elements to be seen on both rides. In any case, it's distracting and rude to do flash photography on them, even if it technically isn't against the rules.

David

 

[BamaFan121s]

Sorry, Buzz, but you're mistaken in at least one case. I clearly remember announcements about flash photography being prohibited on Pirates.

I think you misread what he posted...he was stating the same as you--that it is NOT allowed on Pirates.

Frankly, I'm surprised that the web pages for DINOSAUR and the Haunted Mansion don't list similar prohibitions; bright flashes really ruin the magic, allowing certain "behind the scenes" elements to be seen on both rides. In any case, it's distracting and rude to do flash photography on them, even if it technically isn't against the rules.

Consider this: We all know that you are not supposed to used Flash on Dinosaur ("It messes with the homing signal, and that's not good" from the pre-show. So if the site you posted doesn't mention it...then doesn't the possibility exists that the site is incorrect or hasn't been recently updated...

And generally speaking, what is 'rude and distracting' is open for interpretation. Don't expect the guest around you to stop doing what they are techincally allowed the freedom to do just because you (or others, for that matter) don't agree with it or like it. Every action by every guest can be view as 'rude' depending on who you ask.

 

[jdcthree]

Permission to use this wonderful picture next time the need arises??

 

[Mrs. Bee]

I think flash photos are only annoying on dark rides like pirates and the haunted mansion. But other rides, like it's a small world, it doesn't matter because it's bright in there anyway.

In rides like pirates and the mansion it kind of ruins the illusion and atmosphere.

 

[BamaFan121s]

Permission to use this wonderful picture next time the need arises??

I like the lady in the second row on the end...looks like she's having some sort of neck spasms!

 

[dqpowell]

I think you misread what he posted...he was stating the same as you--that it is NOT allowed on Pirates.

I took his statement to mean those three rides were examples of rides on which flash photography is allowed.

And generally speaking, what is 'rude and distracting' is open for interpretation.

"Rude" is open for interpretation, but "distracting" is entirely in the eye of the person being distracted. I think most people would agree that seeing the framework and hydraulics normally hidden by darkness behind a dinosaur is distracting, even if the picture-snapper wasn't trying to be rude.

David

 

[rosiep]

I want to thank everyone who supported my supposition that photo's are allowed on rides unless specifically stated. It somehow makes digesting and laying to rest that unpleasant incident easier.
In the future, I'll be aware that taking pictures might irritate some and I'll use my good judgement as to whether or not I should.
As many people have said, it is hard to tell just what might annoy someone else. Many behaviors that I don't give a second thought to seem to really bother others. I prefer to be mindful of my own actions and let others worry about themselves.
Hope everyone enjoys their vacations and doesn't sweat the small stuff!

 

[BamaFan121s]

I took his statement to mean those three rides were examples of rides on which flash photography is allowed.

I see what you mean...odd wording there, but I think he meant those were examples where there WAS an announcement advising against it.

"Rude" is open for interpretation, but "distracting" is entirely in the eye of the person being distracted. I think most people would agree that seeing the framework and hydraulics normally hidden by darkness behind a dinosaur is distracting, even if the picture-snapper wasn't trying to be rude.

Hmmm, agreed, BUT Dinosaur is a ride where there ARE specific announcements against flash photos, so that shouldn't be a prob on that ride..... I didn't think those were the ones in question.

 

[Buzz Litebeer]

I took his statement to mean those three rides were examples of rides on which flash photography is allowed.

No... I'm rereading my statement now, breaking it down, and it seems pretty clear. But since you felt I was unclear (and for that you have my most sincere apologies -- truly; I try to be as communicative as possible), I'll be a little more explicit and specific.

Flash photography is allowed unless there are signs or announcements stating otherwise. For example, there are specific announcements prohibiting Flash Photography at the Haunted Mansion, Dinosaur! and Pirates.

 

[dqpowell]

No... I'm rereading my statement now, breaking it down, and it seems pretty clear. But since you felt I was unclear (and for that you have my most sincere apologies -- truly; I try to be as communicative as possible), I'll be a little more explicit and specific.

Flash photography is allowed unless there are signs or announcements stating otherwise. For example, there are specific announcements prohibiting Flash Photography at the Haunted Mansion, Dinosaur! and Pirates.

Thanks, Buzz... my "bad" anyway. I misunderstood you.

David

 

[J and R's mom]

See any lime green paraphernalia hanging off of her? Judging from some of the irate posts I've read when it comes to taking pictures on the attractions, she was probably a DISer!

To the OP: Don't sweat it. There will ALWAYS be people around that feel they know ALL and are entitled to set the rest of the world to rights.