I got my son's ear pierced yesterday!

[LindsayDunn228]

For her job: her boss.

Also, I imagine it would have been stated in her contract that she was to always maintain a professional and smart appearance - and for the vast majority of people, neon pink hair does not come under the description of 'professional and smart appearance'.

Great post.

For the record, I have a cartilage piercing on my left ear. I keep a teeny tiny clear stone in it. You never even see it because of the way I wear my hair. If my employer saw it and thought it was unprofessional, I would not be offended at all and would remove it for work.

It's not like he'd be asking me to sell my soul.

 

[diznygirl]

stereotypes do exsist for a reason.


for people who cannot accept someone unlike them selves and fall upon a stereotype as a reason to justify thier own ignorance.

You have your own stereotypes. You said yourself what you think of people who live in a small town. Maybe they aren't judging you - maybe they think it is cool. You are looking at someone without tats and piercings and thinking they don't approve of your lifestyle - but maybe they are more like you on the inside than you give them credit for.

I think if I pass you over for a job, that is my decision based on what's best for the company - not what's best for you. But to think it has anything to do with not approving of your lifestyle is giving yourself way too much credit.

 

[foolishmortal]

You have your own stereotypes. You said yourself what you think of people who live in a small town. Maybe they aren't judging you - maybe they think it is cool. You are looking at someone without tats and piercings and thinking they don't approve of your lifestyle - but maybe they are more like you on the inside than you give them credit for.

I think if I pass you over for a job, that is my decision based on what's best for the company - not what's best for you. But to think it has anything to do with not approving of your lifestyle is giving yourself way too much credit.

uhh not quite the same stereotype i'm sorry.

A stereotype is the precieved notion of a group of people that someone has without knowing them.

I ACTUALLY see with my own eyes what people do, the eye rolls, and glares...so uh yeah it's not a stereotype.


And your last statement is a little laughable because again I didn't say I was getting passed over because of my looks. Read the posts it's the actual people that hire that said that..2 different things. so that was not a statement that I even made...but nice try.

Hope you didn't give yourself too much credit for trying so hard on your post though.

 

[DawnCt1]

I think that is wrong on so many levels. WHO said it is ONLY ok to have Brown, blond, grey, and red hair .... WHO?

I haven't seen a "pink" gene, have you? When one picks an "unnaturual" color one is inviting comment and perhaps rejectioon.

 

[foolishmortal]

I haven't seen a "pink" gene, have you? When one picks an "unnaturual" color one is inviting comment and perhaps rejectioon.

pink gene.......that's funny

 

[DawnCt1]

uhh not quite the same stereotype i'm sorry.

A stereotype is the precieved notion of a group of people that someone has without knowing them.

I ACTUALLY see with my own eyes what people do, the eye rolls, and glares...so uh yeah it's not a stereotype.

Maybe they aren't responding to a "stereotype" but to the holes and spikes sticking out of your face. It would gross me out.

 

[U2_rocks]

Maybe they aren't responding to a "stereotype" but to the holes and spikes sticking out of your face. It would gross me out.

I wouldn't say it would gross me out exactly, but piercings on the face are so unusual to me that I'd be spending the whole time thinking things like "doesn't that hurt?", "how do you do X with that in?" etc. It would distract me from other aspects of the person. Unless you're used to facial piercings, you can't help but be distracted by them, can you? I'd be fascinated, you'd be grossed out ... but at the end of the day the result would be the same: we wouldn't be able to be entirely comfortable in his presence.

Can you at least understand that in some way, foolishmortal? By the way, I feel like I'm insulting you by typing your username ... foolishmortal!

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Part of a perceived notion can be a reaction of the person who casts you with the stereotypes.

And whether you like it or not--there are professions with minimum requirements and it does not mean they are judging you if they don't want to have a man with visible piercings or tattoos.

It is unprofessional dress.


and needles scare the bejeebies out of me--so when I see piercings (especially through hwere you can see the in and out--including noses..and the earlobe big piercing things (where it stretches the lobe)---part of my flinching is a self defense to prevent from passing out. It is beyond my control unfortunately. Doesn't mean I am judging you. Just means I am not interested in flopping on the ground like a chicken and have everyone freak out and call and ambulance.

Been there, done that, hated the trip.

So get over it.

You judge every day I am sure--so stop pretending that you accept everyone for who they are, b/c you don't.

And unrelated to body piercings----but on a cruise...we were relocated to another table on our honeymoon in a family section. And the table next to us--mom decided a cruise was an appropriate time to teach her daughter how to administer her own insulin shots complete with verbal instruction and demonstration. I felt horrible for my flinching, and my head turning as if I was in disgust. And while yes--I was appalled t her lack of common etiquette--(she could administer that shot privately elsewhere and still be at dinner in a timely fashion for the insulin to work properly)--my reaction was indeed to prevent myself from passing out. And while I can excuse myself---that doesn't prevent me from passing out.

 

[foolishmortal]

Part of a perceived notion can be a reaction of the person who casts you with the stereotypes.

And whether you like it or not--there are professions with minimum requirements and it does not mean they are judging you if they don't want to have a man with visible piercings or tattoos.

It is unprofessional dress.

and needles scare the bejeebies out of me--so when I see piercings (especially through hwere you can see the in and out--including noses..and the earlobe big piercing things (where it stretches the lobe)---part of my flinching is a self defense to prevent from passing out. It is beyond my control unfortunately. Doesn't mean I am judging you. Just means I am not interested in flopping on the ground like a chicken and have everyone freak out and call and ambulance.

Been there, done that, hated the trip.

So get over it.

You judge every day I am sure--so stop pretending that you accept everyone for who they are, b/c you don't.

And unrelated to body piercings----but on a cruise...we were relocated to another table on our honeymoon in a family section. And the table next to us--mom decided a cruise was an appropriate time to teach her daughter how to administer her own insulin shots complete with verbal instruction and demonstration. I felt horrible for my flinching, and my head turning as if I was in disgust. And while yes--I was appalled t her lack of common etiquette--(she could administer that shot privately elsewhere and still be at dinner in a timely fashion for the insulin to work properly)--my reaction was indeed to prevent myself from passing out. And while I can excuse myself---that doesn't prevent me from passing out.

I am not the one who brought up the work part of it until someone mentioned they wouldn't hire based off of that. And oh yeah it may be unprofessional, but tell that to the 2 companies I have worked for which happen to be 2 of the largest companies with home bases in Denver.

And yeah I am sorry that you know me oh so well, but I never judge someone until they give me a reason too. I have parents of my baseball players that have done things that I would never think of yet I treat them no different than the parent that helps me out with practice. I am sorry you think I am lying but I would have no reason to lie to someone I don't even know.

I too am afraid of needles, but guess what...they don't use a needle to insert a body piercing. Is that even worse in the scary side of things, maybe so, but that is what got me through.

Now when you say you flinch, that is a normal reaction to alot, I am talking about the ones that roll eyes, point and whisper, etc...
And your story about the crusie and shots...uhh yeah I am on your side on that part.

 

[foolishmortal]

I wouldn't say it would gross me out exactly, but piercings on the face are so unusual to me that I'd be spending the whole time thinking things like "doesn't that hurt?", "how do you do X with that in?" etc. It would distract me from other aspects of the person. Unless you're used to facial piercings, you can't help but be distracted by them, can you? I'd be fascinated, you'd be grossed out ... but at the end of the day the result would be the same: we wouldn't be able to be entirely comfortable in his presence.

Can you at least understand that in some way, foolishmortal? By the way, I feel like I'm insulting you by typing your username ... foolishmortal!

doesn't that hurt and how do you x with that??

the 2 most asked questions I get about 5 times a week....lol

I understand where you are coming from entirely. My whole point to responding to this thread was to reinforce to the OP that not everyone agrees with her but there are some that do. If people would have responded with I don't like it or agree and left it at that fine.

But when people come out and say it's redneck, ghetto, freakish, I would not hire someone like that...that is what set me off. That is the point I am trying to get others to understand.

The Op didnt ask the question to get slammed like that.


And to answer your questions.......

It hurt for a couple of seconds when I got it done, but that's it. The pain is comparable to if you have ever bit your cheek.

and kissing...For the most part I have smaller piercings in that do not get in the way, but when I wear the larger ones, then you can;t just go in for the kiss, you have to be a little more cautious....lol

btw foolishmortal is no insult as that is what others think of me obviously...

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

It doesn't matter if they use a needle or not--my phobia is not the needle--but the insertion of it into skin and yes I have passed out when I was younger when putting in my piercings---and I do on occasion get whoozy when I put in my piercings even now. From experience I know to stop and work on it later.


obviously the companies you work for have different dress codes--but if a company considers it unprofessional -- then your choice is to work elsewhere (which you do) or comport to the company standard. It doesn't mean the company is wrong for choosing to have their staff comport to certain standards which may or may not meet your criteria for dress--and yes this is covered in many ways in high school, college, or community outreach that teach the proper ways to dress for an interview.

Surely if you were a nudist--you wouldn't expect a company to welcome you with open arms if you show up at an interview---nekkid, now would you?

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

adn on the interview thing--a judgement call will be based on appearance--have to go dig up my training notes--but first impressions are appearance, body language, and tone of voice--a very small percent is the words you say. However my present job--they can't see me so it was all on qualifications and tone of voice. So I have a job where I can where what I want, look however I want and do my job .

So off the bat for a face to face interview--you woudl have to have an amazing resume and qualifications to trump what you looke like. Sad but true. Candidates may not be discriminated on sex or lineage--but nowhere are we constituationally protected for our tattoos and piercings.

 

[foolishmortal]

It doesn't matter if they use a needle or not--my phobia is not the needle--but the insertion of it into skin and yes I have passed out when I was younger when putting in my piercings---and I do on occasion get whoozy when I put in my piercings even now. From experience I know to stop and work on it later.


obviously the companies you work for have different dress codes--but if a company considers it unprofessional -- then your choice is to work elsewhere (which you do) or comport to the company standard. It doesn't mean the company is wrong for choosing to have their staff comport to certain standards which may or may not meet your criteria for dress--and yes this is covered in many ways in high school, college, or community outreach that teach the proper ways to dress for an interview.

Surely if you were a nudist--you wouldn't expect a company to welcome you with open arms if you show up at an interview---nekkid, now would you?

I have no problems with dress codes themselves....My company does have dress code...business casual...but piercings are ok.

If they said piercings are not ok I could easily go buy clear retainers and would be fine with it. But again my problem is the whole I would not even make it through the first interview because of the piercings alone. Forget work and attendance history. Forget qualifications, etc....That is the part I was responding too.

And I always had the "fear" of tats and piercings because of the needles, but once you get 1 it becomes addicting and easier to handle once you know what is coming.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Nope never-I am double pierced--but I am done and the only reason I could do that is b/c you can't see anything--but it still is an issue.

Teh last time I donated blood was an ordeal--so now that has stopped. It was too difficult last time to keep from passing out.

Tattoos--NEVER!! I think some are cute--not all into the body as a canvas--but little ones are cute...but the only ones I am getting will be applied with a damp cloth.


Not sure what a retainer would do--I am not picturing a piercing that would be concealed with a retainer.

and you never know--some can look professional in a suit (or other appropriate attire) despite their decorations--but if you insisted on looking like you were ready to play in a grunge band..well then, yes of course--you would have a problem in the interview process. (and yes that was a stereotype as an example--not saying you dress in any particular way).

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

And I always had the "fear" of tats and piercings because of the needles, but once you get 1 it becomes addicting and easier to handle once you know what is coming.

This reminds me of the people who tell me that one day I will like coffee b/c they always hated it--but started drinking it for one reason or another and now love it.

I don't like mocha flavored anything and certainly don't like coffee and never will. BLEK.


And my fear is hear to stay and there is no willfully getting over it.

 

[DWDreams]

Personally, I think there's a huge difference between body piercings and a standard ear piercing this thread started with, even if the ear piercing in question is for young boy.

I don't have anything against either really, and I actually like ear piercings on some adult men, but these are two totally different things. I don't tend to like the more outrageous body piercings in the facial area not because I think the person is bad for having them or what not, but because they truly make me cringe because they look like they HURT! I'm glad to hear they don't so much.

One thing about the stereotype issue. I agree there are stereotypes that DO prevent some people from getting to know another person for that reason, but I also feel that's exactly what extreme alterations of appearance are intended to do. To me, it'a a false exterior or hiding inside the stereotype where most won't look inside. There are certainly exceptions to all things of course, but I feel that observation is true in many cases.

 

[foolishmortal]

Nope never-I am double pierced--but I am done and the only reason I could do that is b/c you can't see anything--but it still is an issue.

Teh last time I donated blood was an ordeal--so now that has stopped. It was too difficult last time to keep from passing out.

Tattoos--NEVER!! I think some are cute--not all into the body as a canvas--but little ones are cute...but the only ones I am getting will be applied with a damp cloth.


Not sure what a retainer would do--I am not picturing a piercing that would be concealed with a retainer.

and you never know--some can look professional in a suit (or other appropriate attire) despite their decorations--but if you insisted on looking like you were ready to play in a grunge band..well then, yes of course--you would have a problem in the interview process. (and yes that was a stereotype as an example--not saying you dress in any particular way).

Ok it's like this..lol. The earing is pierced with something so small I don;t even think it has a gauge. Well the lip (labret as it is called) is ussually pierced with what is called a 14g piercing. This is honestly the same size as about the ball of a pen.

So what you see on the outside (the big ball, or spike or whatever it may be, is way bigger than the actual hole.

When you get a retainer there is a clear "rod" (lack of better word right now) that has no bigger ball or spike attached to it, it's just a small clear rubber band that keeps it from falling out.

So unless you know it's there you would never give it a second thought. I wear these to funerals/weddings, etc...


and..YOU DON'T DRINK COFFEE????? GASP!!!!


I need my morning cup of coffee or energy drink or I am dragging until I get it.

 

[VSL]

This reminds me of the people who tell me that one day I will like coffee b/c they always hated it--but started drinking it for one reason or another and now love it.

I don't like mocha flavored anything and certainly don't like coffee and never will. BLEK.

OT, but ITA!

My FMIL has told me this (she's lovely, BTW), but me and my BF are just not coffee people and I have no desire to buy myself some when I don't like it just to start liking it If I'm in Starbucks I just get some delish hot choc with whipped cream

 

[zalansky]

I wasn't going to respond but I will since you asked, I don't like it for boys, especially very young boys. I've seen it on boys that young at times and the words "low class" come to mind.

A former co-worker of mine asked us at work whether she should allow her 12 year old daughter to get her belly button pierced, her daughter was giving her a hard time because "all the kids were doing it." We all told her no way would we allow such a thing - too young - ....and she went ahead and let her do it anyway. Those same words came to mind then too.

 

[diznygirl]

uhh not quite the same stereotype i'm sorry.

A stereotype is the precieved notion of a group of people that someone has without knowing them.

I ACTUALLY see with my own eyes what people do, the eye rolls, and glares...so uh yeah it's not a stereotype.


And your last statement is a little laughable because again I didn't say I was getting passed over because of my looks. Read the posts it's the actual people that hire that said that..2 different things. so that was not a statement that I even made...but nice try.

Hope you didn't give yourself too much credit for trying so hard on your post though.

Well, I haven't been able to see what you look like, so you can't blame your looks for this: