I Don't Get it

[littleblackegg]

The coroner released the autopsy report? I can't find any source with his confirmed cause of death.

 

[Disneylover99]

The coroner released the autopsy report? I can't find any source with his confirmed cause of death.

No report yet. Just rumours and speculation.

 

[Colleen27]

Cool, you are entitled to your opinion. I personally see it as being disrepectful to say that a musician being addictted to pain killers is the same thing as an injured vet.

Why is it a contest? Why, when we're talking about two human beings struggling with severe/chronic pain, do we have to place one above the other at all? Why can't we care about them all? And heck, while we're at it, how about we start a conversation about the need for better medical approaches so that neither the injured vet nor the pop star with a joint issue (or the construction worker injured on the job, or the young mother who was in a car accident, or any of countless others) live in a state of perpetual overdose risk in the name of pain management?

And musicians aren't important at all? It would be a far sadder and less interesting world without them.

 

[maxiesmom]

OP hasnt attacked Prince, they have questioned the ongoing grief by many for a person they didnt actually know.

If we all went along with that silly measuring stick then we wouldn't be allowed to feel grief for members of the military we don't personally know. Or for Presidents. Or for the Pope. Or for people such as Mother Theresa, who none of us knew personally. See how rotten that measuring stick is???I

Heck, I feel grief for a dog rescued from a puppy mill that died, and I only knew him thru his facebook page. Yet I feel sorrow for a dog that had been thrown into a bucket to die, and was rescued, and only got to live 5 years out of a cage. No one has any right at all to tell others who it is ok to grieve for and who they cannot. NO ONE.

 

[gwynne]

OP hasn't attacked Prince, they have questioned the ongoing grief by many for a person they didn't actually know.

I've read something similar before on these boards, maybe it's new trendy thinking for some. People don't get more cool points for only grieving for people they think they know extremely well.
Some people can't manage more than one thing at a time. Others do just fine respectfully remembering a talented artist while also making it to work and getting dinner on the table.

 

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

I'm really sad that...oh look at that, colors.

 

[fly girl]

Wow, just wow. I can't believe some are up in arms over someone else being sad about a death.

Why? Why do you care about someone else being sad? No one is forcing you to join in and light a candle. If your sick of hearing about it, change the channel or quit reading the article. Not that hard to do.

Why does it matter who someone grieves for? It shouldn't, just respect that people are different.

And WTH does being a veteran have to do with any of this? For the love ... I'm married to a vet that proudly served our country for 29 years. I revere him, but millions upon millions of people haven't been personally touched through his work. Of course they have been inadvertently impacted (he defended our country) but they didn't see HIS face when they heard US military. (Nope, contrary to the rumors I'm not married to Uncle Sam ). Prince was a soundtrack to many lives -- music runs deep through our souls. Like my earlier post, we don't mourn the star we didn't know, we mourn the emotional impact he gave to our lives. Even my vet husband understands that! And most vets I personally know don't want the hoopla. They don't like the show.

One more thing, throwing out the suicide line was disrespectful. Even if it was suicide (which it appears not to be) why does that matter? It shouldn't. That's implying we can't be sad because someone committed suicide? Ludicrous! You can mourn anyone, anything, anytime.

You can mourn the chicken I just ate if you're a vegetarian. You have that right. But I also have that right to eat it.

*Off the soapbox *

 

[piccolopat]

How dare anyone judge how or for whom others grieve.

I think there is a difference between grieving for someone you personally knew, loved and lost than there is for being sad someone you didn't know has died. Celebrity worship is big with some people but some of us don't understand the extreme display of emotion of some people when that individual is not really connected to the deceased. I don't think it is about judging how others grieve.

 

[Allison]

I think there is a difference between grieving for someone you personally knew, loved and lost than there is for being sad someone you didn't know has died. Celebrity worship is big with some people but some of us don't understand the extreme display of emotion of some people when that individual is not really connected to the deceased. I don't think it is about judging how others grieve.

And your take on it is fine. However, the OP is questioning the morality and values of people who do feel affected. That is definitely judging how others grieve.

As I said earlier, I don't mourn celebrities. I also don't judge the moral character of those who do. That would be silly.

 

[disneyjunkie]

I will be waiting for your approval on all the death that occur daily so I know if it's ok to mourn. I wouldn't want to be viewed as lacking morals and values because I mourn an unworthy person's death. I didn't realize there was someone choosen to be the authority on whether a death is worthy of being mourned or not.

 

[Planogirl]

I rarely mourn celebrities myself but I certainly don't think it's my place to judge those who mourn anyone. We all have the right to our feelings and I see no sense in scoffing at people or somehow sitting up on a high horse looking down on others.

 

[Jennasis]

I think there is a difference between grieving for someone you personally knew, loved and lost than there is for being sad someone you didn't know has died. Celebrity worship is big with some people but some of us don't understand the extreme display of emotion of some people when that individual is not really connected to the deceased. I don't think it is about judging how others grieve.

You don't have to understand it. It exists. Nobody owes you an explanation of their feelings, particularly feelings of loss or grief. I stand by what I said earlier. How dare anyone judge how or for whom someone grieves.

 

[cabanafrau]

Of course other people are allowed to be important but to suggest that a millianore pop star being addicted to pain killers is close to the same thing as a VET is ridiculous.

And to be frank a pop star isnt actually important at all.

A human body in pain doesn't discriminate.

 

[cabanafrau]

Those commenting here chose to make their feelings public (and we don't have to argue over what public means; this is a place where others can reply to your comment), so they have to accept that others may find their comments irrational, fatuous, or worthy of contempt. Or are the commenters here such fragile flowers that they have to have a bubble of safe space around them at all times?

If you're so disdainful of the community here, why bother joining simply to be critical of the discussions taking place here while offering no other contributions to conversations?

 

[piccolopat]

You don't have to understand it. It exists. Nobody owes you an explanation of their feelings, particularly feelings of loss or grief. I stand by what I said earlier. How dare anyone judge how or for whom someone grieves.

Understanding others is an important part of life. I think you are missing out if you don't care to do so. I also think it is ironic that you are judging others for having a difference of opinion at the same time you criticize them for judging others. By the way, I may not understand idol worship but I never asked for an explanation.

 

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

If you're so disdainful of the community here, why bother joining simply to be critical of the discussions taking place here while offering no other contributions to conversations?

Because they didn't dare say it with their regular account would be my guess.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I really don't get the mourning for Prince he was a singer, he killed himself by taking pills and yet people are so upset over his death. I don't get the IDOL worship for singers and actors. I would rather honor the Military and all first responders who are killed because of the Job they do not because they Sang a song. I guess I am just disgusted by the hero worship for these people who get a 4 or 5 page thread and a post on a Cop who was murdered in the line of Duty gets maybe a page or 2 response. It really makes me question some people's values and morals.

There is nothing to get. He touched people's lives so it was personal to them. It's more than just a song.

I don't get why compassion disgusts some people. To each their own.

If you are questioning people's values and morals, it would make me question yours for judging them.

 

[cabanafrau]

Of course other people are allowed to be important but to suggest that a millianore pop star being addicted to pain killers is close to the same thing as a VET is ridiculous.

And to be frank a pop star isnt actually important at all.

What does it take to be important? Are philanthropists worth anything?

 

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

Idol worship?

 

[cabanafrau]

Idol worship?

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How about you pull out your Game of Thrones nun again? I think quite a number of us deserve a public shaming for our poor morals.