I am under constant attack

Originally posted by Madi100
If you feel attacked just think how the candidates feel. Their wife says something stupid, it looks bad for the candidate. Some guy fires someone for having a bumper sticker on their car, the candidate looks stupid. Who slept with who, blah, blah, blah. None of us could possibly live up to the standards that we put on these candidates, but the media, the opposing team, and society expect perfection.

I would really hate to run for president. One time when I was 9 I chased a boy around and kissed him. Then we went up into his treehouse. I would sure hate for that to get out in public :) So, would he. I think we went up there and played house. I said house, not doctor!

I understand the campaigning and I think it's great that people are for their man. I see nothing wrong with the little bumper stickers on the posts. What really bothers me are the personal attacks saying that Bush is the wors president. Or other personal attackks that really aren't true. I think to be so blunt like that is disrespectful. He might not be the best, but he is the man doing the job.

And, it also bothers me when people generalize. Because one person in the democrat or republican party feels a certain way, then group us all together.

Wow, very well said.
 
As a Republican, I completely believe that you are entitled to your opinion, and I would never attack you for it. Though I may disagree with you on your beliefs, they still are yours and should be respected. Don't let those who can't be respectful get you down.
 
I feel your pain. That is why I don't click on any of the political threads any more and I didn't even read your entire post or those following yours.
 
My rule #1 STAY OFF THOSE THREADS! If you don't and then get attacked well... what were you expecting?

I just try not to open ANY political or religion threads. Works well
 

I usually don't open political threads unless I think they will be entertaining (they usually are not.) But, everyone is entitled to their opinion and I have seen both sides get slammed by various people. That is just a fact of life in this political year. For my 2 cents, I am an independent and am getting really tired of the nasty comments and campaigning by both sides. Can we get some new candidates? That is one reason why I try to stay away from most political threads. Life is easier that way.
 
Originally posted by Geezer
I feel the same way, and I haven't even been posting, just reading.

It makes me know that I am right in my decision to support Kerry if Bush supporters are like that! I don't trust him or them. The way they talk just convinces me more to vote against their candidate. ::yes::

See, you are putting me in the boat with ALL of the Republicans. That's not fair, and it's not right. You are not the only one to do it, that is just my biggest problem with these debates. Should I assume that all Democrats cheat on their spouses and lie just because the last great Democrat leader did? I sure don't think that. Not at all. I had just thought that we as a society had finally gotten smart enough to not generalize, but it has not.
 
I enjoy it here but since the debate board disolved it is so stressful. Sometimes I can take it and sometimes I can't. It has a lot to do with RL too. With the constant negativity in the press, on both sides, and Iraq with our boys getting killed daily as well as all those Iraquis, I just wish we could have our political debates be more calm. How is that for a run on sentence? See, I can still have a small sense of humor.

Can we all just take care with the attacks? Is it necessary to call each candidate names, make accusations? Is it necessary to link all the crap on the news? Those of us who care watch the news just as much as you do and those who don't won't look anyway.
Honestly, I think if political threads are causing you undue stress (sounds like it), it really is up to you to avoid them because you can only control yourself. Especially the close it comes to the elections. People are just very passionate about the subject.

I think it boils down to the fact that there is really no way to discuss topics like religion or politics without someone taking offense to the way someone states their opinion. It's part of being a community, we all come from a different place.
 
Originally posted by Madi100
I would really hate to run for president. One time when I was 9 I chased a boy around and kissed him. Then we went up into his treehouse. I would sure hate for that to get out in public :)

::yes:: I got in-school suspension in high school (for throwing a carton of milk.) I can never run for president now!!

Originally posted by Madi100
What really bothers me are the personal attacks saying that Bush is the wors president. Or other personal attackks that really aren't true. I think to be so blunt like that is disrespectful. He might not be the best, but he is the man doing the job.

::yes:: again. Not here, but on another one of my boards, there's a nasty anti-Bush blinkie. I ended up having to turn off the sig because it sickens me to see this person perpetuate such lies. Go Bush or Go Kerry sigs don't bug me, the really offensive ones do. (As is their intent, unfortunately.)

Originally posted by Madi100
And, it also bothers me when people generalize. Because one person in the democrat or republican party feels a certain way, then group us all together.

And ::yes:: again! C'mon, doesn't everyone know that all generalizations are wrong? ;)
 
Honestly, if I would have know this thread involved politics -- I wouldn't have opened it. To me it's all just a bunch of garbage that will be over in a few weeks. I know who I am going to vote for but I don't feel the need to plead my case by attacking a particular candidate/party. I read these boards for enjoyment...not a headache!
 
QUOTE]Originally posted by RNMOM
Well, I have a lot to think about. Hmmm. Where to begin.

As far as having "bleeding heart liberal" on my own tag.. I do bleed. Figuratively. I hate when people, any people get attacked and I find it so disturbing when there is this bantering back and forth. It is so negative. I also care/bleed for what happens to my fellow man. If I have a little less so others can have a marginally decent life instead of what I seen now in the world, well, I am willing to do that. Liberal. I believe each of us has rights and responsibilities. We have the right to voice our opinions and to feel hurt by things other say. I guess what "hurts" me most is the stress each person seems to project. Just like my analogy that some Republicans seem to be foaming at the mouth. There is so much furvor in their words. Yes, I realize we Democrats and Independents can be the same way, remember this is how I feel. Please don't get offended, it is not a personal attack. I don't know, I guess it is impossible to be totally neutral and still plan to vote for one candidate.

I enjoy it here but since the debate board disolved it is so stressful. Sometimes I can take it and sometimes I can't. It has a lot to do with RL too. With the constant negativity in the press, on both sides, and Iraq with our boys getting killed daily as well as all those Iraquis, I just wish we could have our political debates be more calm. How is that for a run on sentence? See, I can still have a small sense of humor.

Can we all just take care with the attacks? Is it necessary to call each candidate names, make accusations? Is it necessary to link all the crap on the news? Those of us who care watch the news just as much as you do and those who don't won't look anyway.

Sorry if this is distressing anyone else, maybe it is time for a break.

Cordia
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This is the crux. Don't you call me names! *BUT* Don't you take offense when I call you 'foaming at the mouth'

Problem is, you started the attack by comparing Republicans with Rabid Dogs and all that implies! (Starting with dangerous uncontrolled animal....ending with needs to be put down)

Now I know (and believe) you did not intend it that way, but I and others certainly have the right (as in our opinion, not political leanings) to take it that way.

As a newbie, and a willing participant in these 'politically' charged boards, I have yet to start a thread, or a war (FLAMMING POST) but I have responded to many, often in the same vein, or even taking it up a notch.

If you have the right to your opinions, well, I guess so do others.

But, I believe if your are honest, you could see how Rabid Republican could inflame someone, whether that was your intent of not.

And by the way, until very recently, IMHO the boards were very anti-Bush.

And I still see Democrats marching in lock-step accepting any negative Bush 'fact' (a.k.a. Dan Rather not tell the truth), and getting upset when Republicans question the source, but turn it around (Kerry supporter fired for...) G-d forbid we dispute the 'facts' ask for a source, or opine a different view.

Finally, I too realize that lock-step has just as bad a conotation/implied meaning as Rabid Republican. I have tried to respond at the same level and not take it up a notch (this time :) ), let me know what you think!

And you can bleed on me anyold time RNMOM! I too will give up a little of what I have to clean and dress your wounds!

-Tony
 
If you are taking stuff on an Internet Bulletin Board PERSONALLY (especially Political stuff) then maybe it is time to take a break.
IMHO
 
Honestly if you feel like you are under constant attack either; A) Grow some thicker skin and get over it, or B) Ignore political threads. It's really not a life altering crisis.
 
I personally think that the Republicans have more one-dimensional, uneducated thinkers. Don't get crazy on me, and take that as an insult anyone.;) It just seems that democrats believe more in education and higher learning. I can think of about two exceptions on here, though.:D
 
I'd be curious to see a breakdown by education level of where folks stand politically. I'm sure some polling organization has such things.

Honestly, my guess is that you might find minor variations among education levels, but I don't get the impression that education level would play a big role in determining where people fall on the political spectrum. Certainly would be interesting to see though.
 
Originally posted by jrydberg
I'd be curious to see a breakdown by education level of where folks stand politically. I'm sure some polling organization has such things.

Honestly, my guess is that you might find minor variations among education levels, but I don't get the impression that education level would play a big role in determining where people fall on the political spectrum. Certainly would be interesting to see though.

I kind of see the majority of Bush supporters as being more blue collar. I also see the Kerry supporters as coming from more of "the ivory tower" type of mentality. I would like to see a study too. I'm certainly no expert.:D
 
Originally posted by minniepumpernickel
I kind of see the majority of Bush supporters as being more blue collar. I also see the Kerry supporters as coming from more of "the ivory tower" type of mentality. I would like to see a study too. I'm certainly no expert.:D

Well, I'm not an expert, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!
 
I'd be curious to see a breakdown by education level of where folks stand politically. I'm sure some polling organization has such things.

you obviously missed my debate board debacle thread about this very topic. suffice it to say that there have been several studies that show that people with Ph.D.'s tend to vote democrat.

this does not mean that democrats are smarter or republicans or dumb, or that your neighbor's uncle's cousin who has a Ph.D. is not really a republican. ;)

anyways, the thread where i posted that turned into one huge mess that i eventually just stopped posting to (after trying to explain about a zillion times, LOL).
 
Yeah, I don't doubt that those with PhDs tend to vote Democrat. I was in grad school for Political Science for 2 years and I think I was the only one in the program who wasn't a hardcore Democrat. Always made for interesting classroom discussions. I was never left out of the debate ;)

But there are plenty of other post-graduate degrees where I'd be very surprised to find a majority supporting the Democratic party. Perhaps I'll do a little research when I get the chance :)
 
But there are plenty of other post-graduate degrees where I'd be very surprised to find a majority supporting the Democratic party.

no doubt. i would tend to agree with your hypothesis. ;)

my dh has a mba and is a republican. from what he tells me there were not very many liberals in his program. :p
 
Originally posted by caitycaity
no doubt. i would tend to agree with your hypothesis. ;)

my dh has a mba and is a republican. from what he tells me there were not very many liberals in his program. :p

On another thread there is a link to info on political contributions. You can look up your neighborhood, for example, and see who contributed to whom. Around here, a larger number of attorneys and certain kinds of professors gave to Kerry. Most Physicians, professors of engineering and business gave to Bush. Very interesting.
 


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