How important are future resorts to you?

[Steelers0854]

That whistle will come in handy....

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I mean you have to have something to do while you use the pee bag.

 

[Cfabar1]

Well hypothetically, direct 250 points at poly for $54k or resale $43k. Pretty easy answer for us. And that’s picking a popular resort right now for a comparison.

Yes, and you'll be able to stay a lot of places even post 2042... Just not at Boulder Ridge (but still can stay at CC), and at BW/BC/RIV.... But with the savings, if you invest them, good chance you could just buy another contract at that point that would allow you to stay at the new resorts and you could even sell the Poly contract and still have some value there to cover the cost as well....

 

[muppets3d]

I've been stuck on the Skyliner for 45 minutes before. Again, this is a rare occurrence. But trust me, it happens.

As have I.

 

[intamin]

But it’s not close as the Epcot resorts. It’s close if it’s walkable.

How long does it take from park closure to get back to your room? - 10min
Just because it has a skyliner does not mean it’s close to the park.

For MK would you consider Poly walkable? It's still probably a little over a 1.2 miles and technically it is walkable but I don't think we'll ever do it if we have the option of boat/monorail.

I do love the close proximity of BC and BW to Epcot but regardless we still do use the skyliner to get to HS so that negates that half of the benefit for us . I agree Riviera is not close to Epcot/HS, but it is still easily accessible which is what matters.

 

[atthebeachclub]

For MK would you consider Poly walkable? It's still probably a little over a 1.2 miles and technically it is walkable but I don't think we'll ever do it if we have the option of boat/monorail.

I do love the close proximity of BC and BW to Epcot but regardless we still do use the skyliner to get to HS so that negates that half of the benefit for us . I agree Riviera is not close to Epcot/HS, but it is still easily accessible which is what matters.

Try the boat next time to HS from BC or BW (as long as you tolerate the boats; I have read some people can’t, which surprised me). It is faster than the Skyliner most of the time.

 

[intamin]

Try the boat next time to HS from BC or BW (as long as you tolerate the boats; I have read some people can’t, which surprised me). It is faster than the Skyliner most of the time.

I think I've taken the friendship boat once to Epcot but never to HS. Might not be a bad idea I just don't like standing there waiting for the boats to come and am impatient so I end up heading to the skyliner

 

[lmf77]

Yes, and you'll be able to stay a lot of places even post 2042... Just not at Boulder Ridge (but still can stay at CC), and at BW/BC/RIV.... But with the savings, if you invest them, good chance you could just buy another contract at that point that would allow you to stay at the new resorts and you could even sell the Poly contract and still have some value there to cover the cost as well....

The problem is as more restricted resorts enter with new members looking to book at older resorts at 7 months, it will be harder on those with resale points. To them, they want to try a different resort. To the resale customer, it can prevent them from taking a trip. New resort rooms will sit empty with resale points blocked out. The 11 month window will become very important. I would only buy resale at a resort that I want to stay at. For any of the active resorts, I would pay extra to get the direct points to keep my future options open. If I were to invest that money, I could invest poorly and lose it all. But I wouldn’t do it if I needed to go into debt for it.

 

[Cfabar1]

The problem is as more restricted resorts enter with new members looking to book at older resorts at 7 months, it will be harder on those with resale points. To them, they want to try a different resort. To the resale customer, it can prevent them from taking a trip. New resort rooms will sit empty with resale points blocked out. The 11 month window will become very important. I would only buy resale at a resort that I want to stay at. For any of the active resorts, I would pay extra to get the direct points to keep my future options open. If I were to invest that money, I could invest poorly and lose it all. But I wouldn’t do it if I needed to go into debt for it.

I agree with you, and that is why I own at VGF and not SSR or AUL or somewhere I am unlikely to easily visit or want to visit.

The Polynesian is one of Disneys premier resorts. I doubt the poster will mind being there year after year and saving their $9k. And if they do, they can sell their contract and not take an immediate $9k loss.

 

[HyperspaceMountainPilot]

I agree with you, and that is why I own at VGF and not SSR or AUL or somewhere I am unlikely to easily visit or want to visit.

The Polynesian is one of Disneys premier resorts. I doubt the poster will mind being there year after year and saving their $9k. And if they do, they can sell their contract and not take an immediate $9k loss.

I agree with this analysis (if I understand it) that in 2042, using resale points for SAP is going to be much more cutthroat (I would expect a lot of walking and, assuming Disney is still turning a blind eye to commercial renters, bots swiping most of the desirable resale-eligible inventory before 8:00:02 AM 7 months out) at VGF, CCV, CCV and BLT, especially if not many OKW points end up leaving the system.

I don’t plan to buy points for SAP so I would (and recently did) buy resale points where I want to stay and use the 11mo window until end of contract. I think it’s crazy to pay more than a 30% premium upfront, just in case I want to stay at a new restricted resort in 5-20 years (though I might feel differently if I hadn’t already picked up VGF direct last year).

 

[lmf77]

I agree with this analysis (if I understand it) that in 2042, using resale points for SAP is going to be much more cutthroat (I would expect a lot of walking and, assuming Disney is still turning a blind eye to commercial renters, bots swiping most of the desirable resale-eligible inventory before 8:00:02 AM 7 months out) at VGF, CCV, CCV and BLT, especially if not many OKW points end up leaving the system.

I don’t plan to buy points for SAP so I would (and recently did) buy resale points where I want to stay and use the 11mo window until end of contract. I think it’s crazy to pay more than a 30% premium upfront, just in case I want to stay at a new restricted resort in 5-20 years (though I might feel differently if I hadn’t already picked up VGF direct last year).

For me it’s not about whether I want to stay at the new resorts but about having the option to just in case. What if in the future something happens and I am stuck with points that expire before 7 months. I want more choices to use those points.

9k difference for 150 pts PVB over 40 years is less than $1.50 per point. Consider maybe you could have invested that and say $3 per point. But the cost of membership includes dues. So I would say resale is a much smaller savings than 30%. If there’s any resort I’d pay direct for right now it’s PVB because the resale savings isn’t enough. But if I wanted something like BLT or CCV, I’d buy resale.

 

[DVC Gma]

I am currently in the market for my second DVC contract. I am 30 years old, and the more I look into it, the more direct points are attractive to me due to future resorts being built that will likely be unavailable to book with resale points (I’m looking at you, rumored Adventureland gate resort).

Conversely, of course the resale market looks more attractive financially. How do you navigate your DVC decisions and how important is access future resorts for you?

I think if I was 30, I would want direct. You have so many years to stay, assuming you go the next 40-50 years! Access to all the newer resorts & whatever happens after the 2042 resorts I think will be important. I was like 47 when I first bought in, resale. Then I purchased a small contract direct to get the perks, before you had to buy I think 150 points. So I was older & lucky I feel. Unfortunately, I do not have that 40-50 yrs. I do wish at 25 I would of bought in. Good luck in your choice!

 

[Pyxie]

At this time, future resorts aren't extremely important to me as I am brand new to DVC and I haven't even scratched the surface of staying at the original resorts yet. I have plenty of variety to try out and I like experiencing different resorts.

Eventually I will probably care more but I see that being way down the line and I do intend to purchase direct at some point when I am financially in a good position to do so.

 

[BamaGuy44]

Well, I haven't looked this thread in a while and it definitely took a strange turn...

We started with a resale contract, and I'll confess the FOMO of blue card and future resorts got to us. Plus we rented points at Riviera and LOVED it, so we were bummed our points wouldn't work there. Ended up buying Riviera direct. We are excited to try Poly Tower, but turns out resale is good there

I'm glad our points will be good at the new Lodge in case we want to try it, but these "modern" point charts are pretty rough. Will it be that enticing to pull me away from just staying at CCV or BRV with those beautiful charts? Time will tell but I doubt it. Now if they have a good lazy river, more like Aulani's than SAB, I'll be tempted.

Like someone said, the O14 already have all the best locations, and easy park access is big for us.

 

[bakerworld]

When we joined DVC we entered into a venue that wasn't on our radar but at the time DVC wasn't offering the venue we actually wanted, which was BLT. So we acquired AKV and it was like 3 years before we stayed there 1 night pre-cruise. The 1 night convinced us to return but meanwhile our focus DVC location when we joined was Beach Club. Now we didn't know about Resale and resale was rendered mute for us cause DH wasn't a fan about resale procedures/timeline.

New venues are important to us in that they offer something to try. We found that as Disney offered new venues they villas changed in arrangement and amenities. For instance the GF bathrooms are much different than the older venues, or even BLT. Where previously every venue built before BLT seemed to have the same bathroom, kitchen, living/eating area. So it's nice to see the changes. We're looking forward to our February stay at the Poly Tower.

 

[fflmaster]

This is an interesting take! I feel it is quite close to Epcot, being the first stop on the Skyliner. Disney navigation even has it a faster trip than taking the monorail from Poly or GF to MK.

Agree with this statement.

We recently stayed at Riv and very happily surprised with the ease to get to both HS and EP by use of the skyliner. I would argue that Riv is an epcot/HS resort just as AKL is an AK resort.

 

[tom1944]

At this time, future resorts aren't extremely important to me as I am brand new to DVC and I haven't even scratched the surface of staying at the original resorts yet. I have plenty of variety to try out and I like experiencing different resorts.

Eventually I will probably care more but I see that being way down the line and I do intend to purchase direct at some point when I am financially in a good position to do so.

As long as I am not limited in eating at any of the restaurants, I do not have to stay at all of them

 

[disneylandtour]

(I would expect a lot of walking and, assuming Disney is still turning a blind eye to commercial renters, bots swiping most of the desirable resale-eligible inventory before 8:00:02 AM 7 months out) at VGF, CCV, CCV and BLT, especially if not many OKW points end up leaving the system.

I expect that eighteen years from now, Disney will have an entirely different system for booking DVC rooms--hopefully one that minimizes the current problems.

 

[DougEMG]

Access to future resorts is not very important to me at all. It has taken me a while, but I've finally learned the best thing is to just own at the resort you want to stay at. The last time I stayed at a non-home resort was in 2019 and that was a 1 bed at BCV.

 

[PlutoNotThePlanet]

I don't want to spend money now based on speculation of future resorts. If there's one that truly blows me away, then I would consider buying direct there when that is on sale. And if booking becomes hard in the future as the 2042 contracts expire, then I would also consider buying something else. But that's 17 years away!

 

[Cyberc1978]

I know about the restrictions at Riviera, and maybe its just my account but have DVC made the restrictions less strict lately?

IIRC in the past I wasn't able to book Riviera using my resale points, not even if the resale points was mixed with direct on the same membership. Now I can easily use my resale points (from 2023 and 2024) at Riviera. However its only doable on my membership which also holds my direct points.

Is anyone else experiencing the same? - Anyone have Riviera resale points mixed with resale points from other resorts? Are you able to book any resort using those points?

If this is new way going forward, I look forward to use my resale points at all the future restricted or non restricted resorts.