How do you feel about this ? Sorta Casey Anthony related

[HersheyKisses]

I was watching 16 and pregnant the Kianna episode. I have not watched the full episode just bits and pieces however I read the description of the episode. Kianna wanted to give her baby up for adoption but her family did'nt agree with it and wanted her to keep the baby . I so do not agree with that If the mother wants to give the child up for adoption for any reason than I feel she should. She's the one who is going to have to sacrifice and raise the baby and later feel the resentment from all the added stress that have come into her life.

On the 16 and pregnant episode Kianna's mother was keeping a tab for EVERYTHING she bought for the baby that Kianna would have to pay back and than she proceeded to complain nonstop about Kianna not having a job . The baby was only weeks old at the time and Kianna was still in highschool Kianna already said she wanted to give the baby up for adoption part of her keeping the baby was because the people in her life wanted her to keep the baby. Kianna's mother should have assumed responsibility for the baby and helped Kianna out. She already was stressed about keeping the baby and I just do not understand that at all.Why put your child AND your grandbaby in such a situation like that


This makes me think of the Casey Anthony case . Casey did NOT want to keep little Caylee and now Caylee is dead because Casey wanted to party and live her life without having to care for a baby. She clearly had no desire to parent so why did Cindy not take full responsibility of Caylee? Casey was still the custodial parent. I believe Cindy knew Casey was a neglectful parent and she was a terrible mother but I also believe Cindy had no idea that Casey could kill Caylee . Cindy and Casey argued about her parenting skills.Casey obviously preferred to not parent Caylee and Cindy wanted Casey to keep Caylee so why did'nt she assume full responsibility of Caylee and get custody of the baby?! I feel so bad about what happened to Caylee. It was only a matter of time before she died. A reporter said that Casey regularly drugged her and put her in the TRUNK while she partied all night .Can you imagine that Florida heat?! Ugh it makes me sick just thinking about it and what if Caylee woke up before Casey got back and she was in that hot trunk all alone. Jesus I hope Casey gets the chair because lethal injection is way too good for her. I cant wait until the day verdict is announced. I hope she is found guilty of first degree murder and never gets released .

 

[CozumelDisneyFan]

I have been glued to the coverage.

 

[hereyago]

There are so many dynamics in that Anthony family. Casey is a narcissist among other things and she would never have given Caylee up to Cindy or George.

I'm sure at some point Cindy did say to Casey probably on more then one time, you know you are young and want the young lifestyle, let us take Caylee. And I'm sure just when George in court made a comment about when he and Casey argued it was the "Casey" show. she didn't want them to take care of her, you can't say you are a great mother and then have your parents have custody of your kid.

I can't think about her being in the trunk dead or alive, nor can I think about how she died, if she was alive and saw her mom because it makes me sick. but once again, Casey doesn't "feel' unless it's about her, she has no empathy towards anyone.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I was watching 16 and pregnant the Kianna episode. I have not watched the full episode just bits and pieces however I read the description of the episode. Kianna wanted to give her baby up for adoption but her family did'nt agree with it and wanted her to keep the baby . I so do not agree with that If the mother wants to give the child up for adoption for any reason than I feel she should. She's the one who is going to have to sacrifice and raise the baby and later feel the resentment from all the added stress that have come into her life.

On the 16 and pregnant episode Kianna's mother was keeping a tab for EVERYTHING she bought for the baby that Kianna would have to pay back and than she proceeded to complain nonstop about Kianna not having a job . The baby was only weeks old at the time and Kianna was still in highschool Kianna already said she wanted to give the baby up for adoption part of her keeping the baby was because the people in her life wanted her to keep the baby. Kianna's mother should have assumed responsibility for the baby and helped Kianna out. She already was stressed about keeping the baby and I just do not understand that at all.Why put your child AND your grandbaby in such a situation like that


This makes me think of the Casey Anthony case . Casey did NOT want to keep little Caylee and now Caylee is dead because Casey wanted to party and live her life without having to care for a baby. She clearly had no desire to parent so why did Cindy not take full responsibility of Caylee? Casey was still the custodial parent. I believe Cindy knew Casey was a neglectful parent and she was a terrible mother but I also believe Cindy had no idea that Casey could kill Caylee . Cindy and Casey argued about her parenting skills.Casey obviously preferred to not parent Caylee and Cindy wanted Casey to keep Caylee so why did'nt she assume full responsibility of Caylee and get custody of the baby?! I feel so bad about what happened to Caylee. It was only a matter of time before she died. A reporter said that Casey regularly drugged her and put her in the TRUNK while she partied all night .Can you imagine that Florida heat?! Ugh it makes me sick just thinking about it and what if Caylee woke up before Casey got back and she was in that hot trunk all alone. Jesus I hope Casey gets the chair because lethal injection is way too good for her. I cant wait until the day verdict is announced. I hope she is found guilty of first degree murder and never gets released .

Well-- a 16 year old will still listen to mommy and daddy--as sad as it is. Casey was fully in control of what decisions she made.

Reporters can say what they want and people have their opinions. However, there is no evidence that exists that Caylee drug her daughter on a regular or semi-regular basis. It is simply a theory.

As far as why Cindy didn't take Caylee--well, the same reason my parents can't just up and decide to take my children. They simply do not have that right. At the end, Cindy was actually preparing to do that. I believe she was advised to start the process. However, it isn't easy going to a judge and saying--I think my child stinks as a parent and want custody. It is much more than that. (And if she were to have full responsibility--that is the way to do it. Casey wasn't going to give it up and Cindy & George were not legal guardians that would make things such as registering for preschool and possibly medical decisions difficult.)

People keep doing "what ifs"...what if she just....The responsibility squarely falls with Casey. It is no one else's fault.

And Kiara isn't going to one day kill her kid because her mommy and daddy won't let her give the baby up for adoption. (you didn't say that, but that is essentially the point you are making by tying the two vastly different situations together.)

 

[bumbershoot]

"Casey did NOT want to keep little Caylee and now Caylee is dead because Casey wanted to party and live her life without having to care for a baby. She clearly had no desire to parent so why did Cindy not take full responsibility of Caylee?"

Really? That's so sad.

And it's sad about the show you're watching, too. I think that if family wants a baby to not be adopted out of the family, the family needs to adopt the baby. (I don't mean keep it all secret like Jack Nicholson's family did, telling him that the woman who was actually his mom was his sister, but being open about it)

At one point several years ago I found out that my half-brother's girlfriend was pg...my brother told my husband that they wouldn't want to keep the baby...I was trying to figure out how to offer to adopt that baby... Sadly his gf lost the baby, so I never worked out how to say it without sounding overly weird, but it was still my first feeling after I knew they wouldn't want to keep the baby.

But yeah, don't force someone to not give a baby up for adoption, if you aren't going to step up and help them out or even be the adopter yourself.

 

[mrsheppo]

I have a daughter who had a beautiful little girl at the age of 19. She just acted from the day the baby was born that she really didn't want to be a mother. I would take care of the baby as much as I could so that I knew the baby was getting the proper care. It did shock DH & me one night when she came home and said that she didn't want the baby anymore. The baby was 4 months old.

DH & I both immediately decided that we would take the baby and raise her. I am glad my daughter at least had the guts to tell us that she wanted to put the baby up for adoption instead of abusing her or something worse. We filed for guardianship while we tried to locate the father in order for him to relinquish his rights (he didn't want the baby either). We adopted her and our lives are so blessed because of our little one. I can't lie and say it has been easy because it hasn't but I am glad my daughter did not go the Casey Anthony route.

 

[luvsJack]

Whichever way parents go when their teen daughter gets pregnant, they can do a lot of damage by forcing their daughter to go one way or the other.

I knew a girl in high school whose parents more or less forced her to get an abortion when she was 14 or 15, she was devastated and ended up pregnant again at 16. They made her give this baby up for adoption. That was 30 years ago and she still has psychological problems from both of these events. She did eventually have a child but I always believed that she had issues bonding with this child that stemmed from the issues with the first two babies.

Another girl from high school was forced to keep her child. While pregnant her mother convinced her that she would help her and it would be ok. The girl would have chosen adoption but mom talked her out of it. When the baby came and mom suddenly was "stressed" and "tired" and "broke" and couldn't help the girl. While she loved her child, she also resented her because having the baby took away her freedom. She ended up marrying someone in hopes that he would provide for them, he didn't and she just made a bigger mess.

I believe that parents in that situation need to seriously walk a tight rope. You want to make sure they look at every option and understand the end result of each one but you don't want to lead them into "your" choice.

And if a parent is determined to convince their child to keep the baby, then I agree they should step up from the beginning and take responsiblity for that baby until the mother is ready to do it herself (if ever).

 

[Andtototoo]

I know a woman who really pressured her 19 year old dd into keeping her baby when the girl wanted to give it up for adoption. The dd did NOT want to be a mother. Anyone on the outside could see that the girl was speaking the truth. I personally saw ZERO likelihood that this girl was going to give birth and turn into mother of the year, but the woman was convinced it would happen. The mother pushed and pushed the girl to keep it because, "That baby is our family. No way is he going outside this family. I'll help!"

The dd gave in.... but not really. That girl is a mother in name only -- she barely works and spends all of her time partying and having a grand old time. The grandmother felt she had no choice but to move the two of them into her tiny apartment because the mother was going out and leaving the 2 month old baby home alone all night. So as a single woman she is now supporting her dd and her grandson while they all live in her tiny 1 BR apartment. The grandmother is the real mother but unfortunately she has lots of health issues and is not physically capable of being the parent to an active 3 year old boy.

The one really paying for poor decisions is that little boy. His biological mother doesn't care about him and his grandmother can't truly care for him. It's sincerely a terrible shame that he wasn't put up for adoption.

 

[sajetto]

I have a daughter who had a beautiful little girl at the age of 19. She just acted from the day the baby was born that she really didn't want to be a mother. I would take care of the baby as much as I could so that I knew the baby was getting the proper care. It did shock DH & me one night when she came home and said that she didn't want the baby anymore. The baby was 4 months old.

DH & I both immediately decided that we would take the baby and raise her. I am glad my daughter at least had the guts to tell us that she wanted to put the baby up for adoption instead of abusing her or something worse. We filed for guardianship while we tried to locate the father in order for him to relinquish his rights (he didn't want the baby either). We adopted her and our lives are so blessed because of our little one. I can't lie and say it has been easy because it hasn't but I am glad my daughter did not go the Casey Anthony route.

Just curious does your adpoted DD know that your daughter is her mother? Does she have any contact with her?


OP, I totally agree with you. If the girl doesn't want the baby for goodness sake don't push her to keep it. What Casey Anthony did sickens me and it hurts just to think of the suffering that Caylee went through.

 

[HersheyKisses]

I think the Casey trial and the 16 and pregnant episode definetly relates to eachother...Both mothers initially have no desire to parent and bought up adoption and in both cases they kept the child to please thier family. Casey was extreme and killed her child ...Kianna is young but is under tremendous stress from motherhood and having to find a job . Kianna's mother pushed her to keep the baby therefore she shouldve took on the responsibility of the child. When Casey expressed she did not want the baby and was considering adoption Cindy shouldve automatically started the legal process and made sure she had Caylee as much as possible. You just never know even with your own kids what they are capable of .

Casey did not become evil overnight Cindy had to have noticed something was not right with Casey and she should've never left Caylee out of her sight much less let Casey take off with her for weeks on end .