Homeschool Chat Part III

Can I just say...I HATE LOOKING FOR A CURRICULUM! GRRRRR:mad:. I hate looking up a million websites and links. I feel like I am looking for Gary the Gander (lol Phineas and Ferb). Anyway. It drives me insane not to be able to flip through a book or look over a set of manipulatives. I am now looking for Reading/LA and it is NO fun!!! I haven't even begun to look for anything for my Pre-K child!


in my humble opinion, you don't need anything for a pre-k child. shapes, colors, numbers, letters, nature walks, drawing/coloring, games... this is the easy, fun stage. Don't make it work. It's supposed to be learning through play. If you really want "something", google Charlotte Mason. She had wonderful ideas for young children. Enjoy it.
 
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in my humble opinion, you don't need anything for a pre-k child. shapes, colors, numbers, letters, nature walks, drawing/coloring, games... this is the easy, fun stage. Don't make it work. It's supposed to be learning through play. If you really want "something", google Charlotte Mason. She had wonderful ideas for young children. Enjoy it.

So true! The best advice I ever got re. the pre-school child was to play a lot, read books and do an art project.

I do have a little spiral book with some structured ideas: it's called "Early Education At Home": A Curriculum Guide for Parents of Preschooolers and Kindergartners by M. Jean Soyke. I think I picked it up at a bookfair some time ago....just recently ran across it again. Overall it looks good.

Another rec: the Five In A Row series for pre-schoolers.

My personal favorite book (read when I was first thinking about homeschooling back when my oldest was 2 yrs. old): "Better Late Than Early" by Raymond Moore.
 
Hello again, everybody! We are still thinking about homeschooling, and I had posted last month before school started about how frustrated I was that I could not be a SAHM and homeschool the kids. I think we have decided that we are going to try doing this while I continue to work. I work 12hr night shifts at the local hospital. I am adjusting and learning what I can do sleep-wise. Does anyone have any advice on this?? DH is on board and willing to help me tackle this. I know it won't be easy, but I have such a strong desire that I firmly believe God has laid on my heart to teach my kids at home. I would love to hear from someone who actually does something like this...

It can be done, but only you know your family's limitations and need to think through what you can realistically do.

Here's my story. I'm a single parent and have been homeschooling my son since we moved out of an awesome school district that I felt 'okay' about to a supposedly awesome school system which we have had first hand, very unpleasant experiences with. We began with his seventh grade year. He's now entering what would be his sophomore year in high school and we haven't looked back.

Here's what we do, what's worked, and what I would change if I could:

1. I work full time (in IT), BUT I work from 5:30am to 2 pm and I work from home four days/week. I DO NOT take time away from my job to do homeschooling when I'm working. Period. We usually have lunch together unless he's out and about at an activity or at our local park day. My son does some things on his own before 2 pm: music practice, music theory, video editing, programming, writing(he's working on a non-fiction book this year) and reading (novels and any textbook pages I want him to read in preparation for work we'll do together).

2. During the day, when I'm at work. My son's grandfather is with him and is able to take him places. Also, we have a large and active homeschool community where I live and sometimes our friends will pick him up. In return I have run rocketry clubs in the past so I do try to reciprocate when possible. Sort of my way of giving back to those families who have helped us out in the past.

3. After work, my son and I get together on things he needs/wants my help with...math, science, history, Japanese. We also periodically review the rough draft of his manuscript and use that time to cover issues related to grammar and citing references.

4. I use my days off for planning and also for field trips outside of those he participates in with other homeschoolers during the week. Planning for us is pretty time consuming because we are child-led in our homeschooling and don't often use a purchased curriculum that we can just follow and check off tasks as we go (math is the exception to that, we use Thinkwell). He's also college-bound so I spend a lot of time documenting what we're doing for his transcript.

5. Things I wish I could change and believe would be better if I didn't work: I wish I got more sleep...there just never seem to be enough hours in the day, I write novels as a hobby of sorts and I've had to seriously reduce the number of hours I spend on my own writing, I don't get to interact as much with other homeschooling parents so I've had to work extra hard to make sure we stay connected to the community, I have no life outside of working and homeschooling my son...seriously...none. That last one actually doesn't bother me that much because I really think that I'm doing right by my son, but maybe it'll be an issue for you and it's something to think about. I really don't have time to do anything that's not about work or making sure my son has the education and opportunities he should have.


Everything I'm doing you'll be doing x 2. Also, while I'm having to handle high school level coursework which can seem more intimidating, my son's getting to be fairly independent so that makes it easier for me, too.


Some other things that may be different about our situation: my son has some special needs (he has Asperger Syndrom) and he is also gifted. This made getting him an appropriate education in regular school very challenging. Homeschooling was the option that made the most sense for him. If he had a different profile he would probably still be in school.

While I firmly believe that homeschooling can provide a superior education for pretty much every child I probably wouldn't have chosen this path (homeschooling while working full time I mean) if it were not for the fact that public schooling just isn't flexible enough to accommodate a kid like mine.

Whatever you decide, good luck, and hope this helped a little.
 
Hello again, everybody! We are still thinking about homeschooling, and I had posted last month before school started about how frustrated I was that I could not be a SAHM and homeschool the kids. I think we have decided that we are going to try doing this while I continue to work. I work 12hr night shifts at the local hospital. I am adjusting and learning what I can do sleep-wise. Does anyone have any advice on this?? DH is on board and willing to help me tackle this. I know it won't be easy, but I have such a strong desire that I firmly believe God has laid on my heart to teach my kids at home. I would love to hear from someone who actually does something like this...


I'm essentially a single mom. My oldest DD lives with me (26yo), but she has challenges, so she's basically only here to be an adult in the house. I work 3rd shift 5 nights a week, oldest works 5 days a week and our days off are staggered so we only have 3 days of both working. My younger 2 were 10 & 13 when we started this and are now almost 13 & 15.

I come home from work around 8am, we have breakfast and DDs get set up for their day. I go to bed around 10am. I get up 6ish and we have dinner (which they fix on nights I work) and we eat together to go over any challenges they've had. We then have our evening to watch TV/movies, play games, etc. for family time. I start getting ready for work at 10pm.

We do "school" as we can. I have a belief that we "Wake up. Start Learning." Learning happens everywhere and it doesn't have to be so heavily structured.

When they were younger, I preferred a more structured curriculum on the computer. We used K12 and SOS for the most part. Now that they are older, we are more organic with learning. Right now, youngest is using Teaching Textbooks for math while 15yo is using Life with Fred. 15yo also has Aspergers along with learning challenges, so finding the right fit takes time.

It's not easy, by any stretch, but it certainly can be done. Now that they are older, it is better and I feel a bit spoiled that I can actually get 8 hours of sleep!
 

So true! The best advice I ever got re. the pre-school child was to play a lot, read books and do an art project.

I do have a little spiral book with some structured ideas: it's called "Early Education At Home": A Curriculum Guide for Parents of Preschooolers and Kindergartners by M. Jean Soyke. I think I picked it up at a bookfair some time ago....just recently ran across it again. Overall it looks good.

Another rec: the Five In A Row series for pre-schoolers.

My personal favorite book (read when I was first thinking about homeschooling back when my oldest was 2 yrs. old): "Better Late Than Early" by Raymond Moore.

yes, everyone should read this! :thumbsup2
 
I think I am going to follow the Letter of the Week website for DD 4 and do whatever I find in my kindergarten files. For DS6 I am going with Singapore Math since he did well on the placement assessment. I'm considering doing the Writing Road to Reading (Spalding Method) since I'm trained on it and already have it at home. I know he needs it, but won't be as much fun for him.
 
Hi all!! :wave2: Haven't been on the thread in a while!! Just had a quick question for you hs moms who have older kids...my older son is 15-technically he would be a sophomore, but is doing Jr Level classes...he is in Alg 2 and Chemistry this year. Now, when I high school Chem was not a requirement for graduation so I didn't take it-so, we are having a bit of a struggle-at this point it's either start over and me go thru it with him step-by-step, or get a tutor. And the question is this...how 'needed' is Chemistry anyway? It's not required in my state for hsing, but is he gonna need to have had it BEFORE he gets to college. And we are using an upper level Chem curriculum-that could be the problem! LOL!! Just curious what your thoughts were-especially those of you already in or past this point!
As for his career, he isn't going into anything super scientific-or at least he doesn't think so yet..he's leaning toward Computers, police field, or even toying with going into the service. Whatcha think?:cutie: TIA!
 
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Hi all!! :wave2: Haven't been on the thread in a while!! Just had a quick question for you hs moms who have older kids...my older son is 15-technically he would be a sophomore, but is doing Jr Level classes...he is in Alg 2 and Chemistry this year. Now, when I high school Chem was not a requirement for graduation so I didn't take it-so, we are having a bit of a struggle-at this point it's either start over and me go thru it with him step-by-step, or get a tutor. And the question is this...how 'needed' is Chemistry anyway? It's not required in my state for hsing, but is he gonna need to have had it BEFORE he gets to college. And we are using an upper level Chem curriculum-that could be the problem! LOL!! Just curious what your thoughts were-especially those of you already in or past this point!
As for his career, he isn't going into anything super scientific-or at least he doesn't think so yet..he's leaning toward Computers, police field, or even toying with going into the service. Whatcha think?:cutie: TIA!

It's pretty common for high schoolers to have a chem class these days, especially if college bound. I'd keep at it. Have you tried the Apologia series? It teaches step by step as you go through the text, plus there are dvd's you can buy to help with the lessons. Or maybe a co-op situation would be available; I know around here there are many sources for taking a group homeschool chem class (and nearly all of them use Apologia).
 
Hi all!! :wave2: Haven't been on the thread in a while!! Just had a quick question for you hs moms who have older kids...my older son is 15-technically he would be a sophomore, but is doing Jr Level classes...he is in Alg 2 and Chemistry this year. Now, when I high school Chem was not a requirement for graduation so I didn't take it-so, we are having a bit of a struggle-at this point it's either start over and me go thru it with him step-by-step, or get a tutor. And the question is this...how 'needed' is Chemistry anyway? It's not required in my state for hsing, but is he gonna need to have had it BEFORE he gets to college. And we are using an upper level Chem curriculum-that could be the problem! LOL!! Just curious what your thoughts were-especially those of you already in or past this point!
As for his career, he isn't going into anything super scientific-or at least he doesn't think so yet..he's leaning toward Computers, police field, or even toying with going into the service. Whatcha think?:cutie: TIA!

My son had physics in 9th and chemistry in 10th at a private school. Then last year he had biology. He is glad he had chemistry early on. It's helped him in other classes. When I asked him what classes it's helped him with, he said any class that talked about elements and chemicals.

Tutors don't come cheap. Is there a co-op in your area doing chemistry?
 
It's pretty common for high schoolers to have a chem class these days, especially if college bound. I'd keep at it. Have you tried the Apologia series? It teaches step by step as you go through the text, plus there are dvd's you can buy to help with the lessons. Or maybe a co-op situation would be available; I know around here there are many sources for taking a group homeschool chem class (and nearly all of them use Apologia).

My son had physics in 9th and chemistry in 10th at a private school. Then last year he had biology. He is glad he had chemistry early on. It's helped him in other classes. When I asked him what classes it's helped him with, he said any class that talked about elements and chemicals.

Tutors don't come cheap. Is there a co-op in your area doing chemistry?

we are using the Apologia series!this is the first year that we have reaaaally struggled... the co-op in my area doing Chemistry won't allow you to just use them or be part of one class..You have to be committed to their whole program and must volunteer to teach or be an aide. I guess this weekend I will spend looking over it again and trying to get on the Apologia site and contact them for the helpline...thanks ladies!!:flower3:
 
we are using the Apologia series!this is the first year that we have reaaaally struggled... the co-op in my area doing Chemistry won't allow you to just use them or be part of one class..You have to be committed to their whole program and must volunteer to teach or be an aide. I guess this weekend I will spend looking over it again and trying to get on the Apologia site and contact them for the helpline...thanks ladies!!:flower3:

My ds tutored a few kids through the Apologia chemistry. It does take time to dig in and learn (and memorize) the material.

DIVE also has a cd, here's some info from the site: (including some info on other chem programs):


DIVE Chemistry

Pre-Requisite: Algebra 2 completed, or taking concurrently.

This is the third of 4 college-preparatory, high school science courses offered by DIVE. DIVE Chemistry, along with Physical Science and Biology, are standalone courses, supplemented with a textbook or the Internet. We recommend Bob Jones’ Chemistry or Apologia’s Chemistry and Advanced Chemistry texts. Prentice Hall’s Chemistry in Action is a good secular text. Typically completed in 10th or 11th grade, DIVE Chemistry is a full year course teaching concepts found in a typical high school chemistry course, plus a whole lot more. Topics include but are not limited to Science and Christianity, measuring matter, atoms, the Periodic Table, atomic and molecular bonding, chemical reactions and equations, stoichiometry, gas laws, solutions, thermodynamics, chemical equilibrium, acid/base chemistry, oxidation/reduction reactions and electrochemistry, organic chemistry, biochemistry, and nuclear chemistry.

and here is the link that has more info:
http://www.diveintomath.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgipreadd=action&key=ACHA2B
 
Thank you guys for the Welcome! I am sorry I just now got back on here. I think I need some advice... My oldest gets really embarrassed, and almost crys if she cant do something right.. Like write a perfect m or an 8. I try to tell it is ok, and calm her down, but she sulls up and begins to cry or say things like I am not smart enough or I need to go back to my old school "K" where I knew things. It makes me wonder if I am not teaching or explaining it well enough, which then in turn makes me doubt myself. Now, I try to give praise and tell her things are ok, and want this to work soo much and her to have a blast! I know there isnt always fun days, but I want her to get excited about learning? I am thinking I am not making school fun enough for her either, and maybe I need to reinforce more?:confused3:confused3 I do know that maybe @ public they learned one letter all week kinda thing so it was drilled into her head, and if she ever had any confusion someone else always had it first. kwim? She was the best reader in her K class, and I think the mental ability is there, but I think emotionally she is afraid to let me down maybe? MAYBE I am just over worrying too much. This is our first year, and I tend to worry, and this is a new learning experience for all of our family.

Please any suggestions on how to handle would be great, and any fun activites for school would be good also. This curriculum doesnt give any projects or hands on of any kind, but is a great solid curriculum. I just wish I had some art projects fun ways to maybe teach how to tell time, story stuff etc... School btw is only taking about 2 hours? Reading, math, bible.. Start english, social studies, and science in about 3 months after our Learn to Read program.. I wanted to make sure that there wasnt anything missed out on in phonics. So it is kinda review on half of it.

Whew! Sorry for the LONG LONG LONG post! Thank you already for the warm welcome, and I promise next time I will respond sooner:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2
 
Also, Rainbow Resource has several programs. You might be able to find something there that is still high school level chem but not as intense as the program he's struggling with currently.

http://www.rainbowresource.com/searchspring.php?q=chemistry


We used the "integrated physics" program for my dd, just to cover some physics during her high school years.

Just wanted to pass this along.....

This site has many Scholastic PDF books on sale for $1. Use the code 10THANKS for $10 off your order.

http://teacherexpress.scholastic.com/

Thank you ladies, I will look at both of those this weekend!!
Thank you guys for the Welcome! I am sorry I just now got back on here. I think I need some advice... My oldest gets really embarrassed, and almost crys if she cant do something right.. Like write a perfect m or an 8. I try to tell it is ok, and calm her down, but she sulls up and begins to cry or say things like I am not smart enough or I need to go back to my old school "K" where I knew things. It makes me wonder if I am not teaching or explaining it well enough, which then in turn makes me doubt myself. Now, I try to give praise and tell her things are ok, and want this to work soo much and her to have a blast! I know there isnt always fun days, but I want her to get excited about learning? I am thinking I am not making school fun enough for her either, and maybe I need to reinforce more?:confused3:confused3 I do know that maybe @ public they learned one letter all week kinda thing so it was drilled into her head, and if she ever had any confusion someone else always had it first. kwim? She was the best reader in her K class, and I think the mental ability is there, but I think emotionally she is afraid to let me down maybe? MAYBE I am just over worrying too much. This is our first year, and I tend to worry, and this is a new learning experience for all of our family.

Please any suggestions on how to handle would be great, and any fun activites for school would be good also. This curriculum doesnt give any projects or hands on of any kind, but is a great solid curriculum. I just wish I had some art projects fun ways to maybe teach how to tell time, story stuff etc... School btw is only taking about 2 hours? Reading, math, bible.. Start english, social studies, and science in about 3 months after our Learn to Read program.. I wanted to make sure that there wasnt anything missed out on in phonics. So it is kinda review on half of it.

Whew! Sorry for the LONG LONG LONG post! Thank you already for the warm welcome, and I promise next time I will respond sooner:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2

I am not sure what program/curr you are using, but my dd loved the Arts & Crafts book that was in the ABeka program...I am thinking of ordering her another one this year because she loved it so much...
As for the crying because she can't do her work...-I have a kid like that too! LOL....my kid does it with Math....and he is so smart and can grasp concepts quickly and thoroughly, but I think with my kid, if he has a bit of a freeze moment, or feels he isn't 'getting it' he just can not deal with it. you can see it on his face-it's an internal melting and then he's just sobbing away! I have to send him to his room, or somewhere away from the Math--then later when he's got control of himself, come back and we'll try it again. He tries to choke it down and not cry and really focus, but it seems like the minute that switch is flipped in his brain-forget it. The older he gets the less he has these moments of panic-I just have to always remind him it's JUST math...the world is NOT hinging on him getting the answer right this minute-we can come back tomorrow and start over.
I hope you can find her trigger point and help her get through this--I know it's hard not to feel like it is you, but more than likely, she is pressuring herself. Whether she even knows it or not.
 
we are using the Apologia series!this is the first year that we have reaaaally struggled... the co-op in my area doing Chemistry won't allow you to just use them or be part of one class..You have to be committed to their whole program and must volunteer to teach or be an aide. I guess this weekend I will spend looking over it again and trying to get on the Apologia site and contact them for the helpline...thanks ladies!!:flower3:

Best wishes this weekend sifting through everything.

Thank you guys for the Welcome! I am sorry I just now got back on here. I think I need some advice... My oldest gets really embarrassed, and almost crys if she cant do something right.. Like write a perfect m or an 8. I try to tell it is ok, and calm her down, but she sulls up and begins to cry or say things like I am not smart enough or I need to go back to my old school "K" where I knew things. It makes me wonder if I am not teaching or explaining it well enough, which then in turn makes me doubt myself. Now, I try to give praise and tell her things are ok, and want this to work soo much and her to have a blast! I know there isnt always fun days, but I want her to get excited about learning? I am thinking I am not making school fun enough for her either, and maybe I need to reinforce more?:confused3:confused3 I do know that maybe @ public they learned one letter all week kinda thing so it was drilled into her head, and if she ever had any confusion someone else always had it first. kwim? She was the best reader in her K class, and I think the mental ability is there, but I think emotionally she is afraid to let me down maybe? MAYBE I am just over worrying too much. This is our first year, and I tend to worry, and this is a new learning experience for all of our family.

Please any suggestions on how to handle would be great, and any fun activites for school would be good also. This curriculum doesnt give any projects or hands on of any kind, but is a great solid curriculum. I just wish I had some art projects fun ways to maybe teach how to tell time, story stuff etc... School btw is only taking about 2 hours? Reading, math, bible.. Start english, social studies, and science in about 3 months after our Learn to Read program.. I wanted to make sure that there wasnt anything missed out on in phonics. So it is kinda review on half of it.

Whew! Sorry for the LONG LONG LONG post! Thank you already for the warm welcome, and I promise next time I will respond sooner:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2

My son is 7 and gets very frustrated when he doesn't do perfectly. I can't even show him graded tests.

The Abeka kindergarten took us about 2 to 3 hours. First grade is taking us about 6 hours a day because he is lolly gagging on the seat work.
 
Kind of OT but curious about something. My son was playing with a boy the other day that he had just met. I asked him his name and what grade he was in and he told me he didn't know what grade he is in. Later I found out he was home schooled. Is this odd that he didn't know or is HS not really based on grade levels?
 
Kind of OT but curious about something. My son was playing with a boy the other day that he had just met. I asked him his name and what grade he was in and he told me he didn't know what grade he is in. Later I found out he was home schooled. Is this odd that he didn't know or is HS not really based on grade levels?

It's possible he is taking multilevel classes. My cousin's son is in 6th grade per se, but he is taking algebra 2 from a high school curriculum. Maybe that child is working at a higher or lower level for his age and didn't know how to answer.

My son started 1st grade work in the beginning of May. He didn't know how to answer people then. He was saying first grade, but going to his kindergarten graduation.
 
Kind of OT but curious about something. My son was playing with a boy the other day that he had just met. I asked him his name and what grade he was in and he told me he didn't know what grade he is in. Later I found out he was home schooled. Is this odd that he didn't know or is HS not really based on grade levels?

Two possibilities:

1) He does work from different grade levels. All of my kids work at different grade levels for different things, but I tell them what grade level they are in based on age. Ex: I tell my 5 year old she is in K, my 6 year old he is in 1st and my 8 year old she is in 3rd, no matter what they are working on. It keeps things simple and they know how to answer when asked.

2) Maybe he is "homeschooled" but isn't actually doing much schooling. The neighbor kids are like that. They say they are homeschooled, but they run around unsupervised all day, so I don't know when they would be getting much work done.
 





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