Home resort rule change.

[yitbos96bb]

I agree. One of the benefits of DVC (really any timeshare program) is the ability to sell multiple destinations rather than just a single resort. They aren't just selling you points at the Bay Lake Tower--to name one--they are selling a program with 11 native resorts and hundreds of trade destinations through RCI.

If anything they could reduce the Home resort priority period. But even that is a double-edged sword as it would encourage buyers to simply choose the lowest cost option available rather than buying into a specific resort for that 4-month booking advantage.

Giving owners a larger Home resort booking window--and thus reducing the time in which owners can book outside of their home--doesn't seem to serve much of a purpose.

My bet is that if they made that change they would cease to discount one over the other unless absolutely necessary. But really, does anyone actually expect Disney to have 3 WDW resorts in full time sales again? Unless they add another building on the Yacht side or build at moderate resorts, the only deluxe ones left without DVC are Grand Floridian (which I expect to get one) and the Poly (which I hope gets one). So the next WDW would probably come from one of those 2 or a new built from scratch resort, although that hasn't happened at WDW since OKW... even SSR still had a lot of the DIsney Institute infrastructure (although they did build a lot on that property for DVC).

 

[yitbos96bb]

I doubt they would do it. Right now there's a problem of excess rooms at the less popular resorts, changing it to 10 months would make it even worse.

Only if people didn't come rather than stay at a less popular resort. Otherwise it wouldn't make it worse at all.

 

[yitbos96bb]

I haven't bought in yet, but am considering it. I would be very upset if I couldn't get a room at my home resort because they were all booked to owners from other resorts.

You wouldn't if you book at the 11 month window.

 

[yitbos96bb]

As has been stated, the home resort priority is currently 4 months but our contracts guarantee only a one month priority.

When it comes to timeshares, first-come, first-served is very much the rule of the day. You could certainly experience problems booking your Home even 5-6 months out during many periods. In fact, there are certain high-demand times when resorts will be fully booked by owners long before non-owners even have the ability to make a reservation.

If you cannot live with those guidelines then you may want to re-think the purchase.

See Standard View BLT and BWV and Magic Kingdom View BLT for some common examples

 

[spiceycat]

there are plans to add them to the moderate and value resorts.

well got my 3 favorite resorts (okay not akv or bcv) - but definitely the rest because that part of - we can make you stay only at your resort - bothered me.

will reread it tonight - but think they can do it if they want too - w/o a reason.

the 11/10 vs 11/7 - since don't make most of my reservations until 9 to 8 months - this would be a problem. Guess would have to change.

this sounds like it was started by a dvc member who does not like their home resort and really wants to try another one and thinks his chances are more likely if DVC did this. Guess what - the resorts who sell out would sell out even quicker.

so this person would still not get the resort he wanted.

it is really nice if you love your home resort. just in case. No one can say what DVC will do or not do in the future. remember the points charts (which kept changing) instead of staying the same - which some members had guaranteed by their guides. (would never change)

 

[spiceycat]

when DVC was new - it had OKW, BWV, HH and VB all for sale at the same time.

that say it was years between BWV and VWL.

before SSR was announced there was plans to build another big stand alone one - where the four seasons is being build (although not nearly as big as the 4 seasons will be). Dvc will probably do this again.

if and when Disney builds another park - then expect a DVC near it.

they just started in Ca - so would expect at least one more there.

Hawaii would have to be a big success for DVC to go offsite again. remember both VB and HH were not - both would have been alot bigger if they had sold out quicker.

 

[Greysword]

This would allow them basically to sell any resort to anybody...I personally would be in favor of 11/10 booking rules but I currently make my reservations less than 7 months in advance.

This is an interesting premise, and I would like to ask a question, which throws a wrench into the booking window even further (and a worse concept than your suggestion, Jason).

In an effort to sell out their resorts that are in direct competition with resales (SSR especially), could DVC initiate a two-tiered reservation system, so those that buy directly from Disney (from a specific date forward) gain the 11/10 booking window at other resorts, while contracts bought resale (from a specific date forward) had a 11/7 booking window?

Evil, isn't it?

 

[tjkraz]

I'm not sure DVC could do separate windows for direct vs resale buyers. The POS dictates most of those rules and would apply to all owners regardless of method of purchase.

However it would certainly be legal for DVC to offer added perks to direct buyers vs resale. Other timeshare systems have done that for a long time. For instance, DVC could decide to offer the Annual Pass discount only to direct buyers.

In many ways I'm surprised they haven't already done something along those lines.

 

[hellerjw]

I can't see them even going that far. How hard would it be for those who bought resale to simply purchase a 25 point add-on direct, thereby making them direct buyers too?

What about all those folks who bought direct then did add-ons via resale?

They would have to grandfather in several hundred thousand folks which would negate the exclusivity of any "direct buy only" perks. If they were going to do it they should have started doing it 10 years ago.

 

[scot@dvcstore]

I personally do not think DVC will change the booking windows now or anytime in the near future. If they were to make any changes, I would be in favor of increasing the months in advance a member is able to make a reservation at a resort other than their Home Resort. Maybe instead of 7 months, make it 8 or 9 months.

 

[rock_doctor]

I think I would be very bummed with a 11/10 booking window. I bought at BLT and had a hard time booking at 9 1/2 months for Dec ressie (which we were not planning on doing until we saw airfare for 159.00 R/T). If everyone else had the ability to book at 10 months there is no way I would have gotten my room. Just my opinion.

That is it, if you give common advantage to everybody nobody would buy into one resort. You would just buy 50pts at each and have no home resort. Then how do they guarantee a steady income from membership fees... Just does not help them in any way. Just makes sure those who bought at the more popular buildings will not get the reservations they want. As it is now at BLT you have call at the 11mo window and daily push the reservation...and they say only 55% of the points are sold... It is one of those deals where they have to put it into writing to give them the ability to change it if they want. Kind of like, they have to put the sign on a fan to not put your fingers into the blades. Because you know somebody will sue saying there was no sign saying you can't put your fingers into a running fan...

 

[NewDCLGuy]

I've seen a lot of talk regarding changing the home resort rules. Basically forcing you to only stay at the resort you own points at. How likely do you think this will be? We own at BLT and will be staying there for the first time in a couple weeks. We plan on adding on some BWV points for the 11 month advantage for Dec, but would hate if they change the rules. What are your thoughts?

You should treat such thought with the appropriate amount of seriousness for annonomous Internet postings deserve.

There is zero reason for Disney to do

 

[Jason@dvcstore]

This is an interesting premise, and I would like to ask a question, which throws a wrench into the booking window even further (and a worse concept than your suggestion, Jason).

In an effort to sell out their resorts that are in direct competition with resales (SSR especially), could DVC initiate a two-tiered reservation system, so those that buy directly from Disney (from a specific date forward) gain the 11/10 booking window at other resorts, while contracts bought resale (from a specific date forward) had a 11/7 booking window?

Evil, isn't it?

Not evil at all but Disney, in my opinion, will never do such a thing. If they did then they would have to disclose to the new owner that if they ever go to sell their property is going to be worth far less than then what Disney sells it for because the new owner will lose important benefits. Disney wouldn't want to disclose that information as then it opens up the possibility of the new buyer canceling and buying resale. Some buyers who already make reservations less than 7 months in advance would love this scenario as would make resales drop in price for them.

In my opinion Disney is going to keep all the benefits the same for DVC wether you buy from Disney, from The Timeshare Store, Inc.® or if you happen to buy points from your neighbor.

Jason

 

[NewDCLGuy]

This is an interesting premise, and I would like to ask a question, which throws a wrench into the booking window even further (and a worse concept than your suggestion, Jason).

In an effort to sell out their resorts that are in direct competition with resales (SSR especially), could DVC initiate a two-tiered reservation system, so those that buy directly from Disney (from a specific date forward) gain the 11/10 booking window at other resorts, while contracts bought resale (from a specific date forward) had a 11/7 booking window?

Evil, isn't it?

I can't see Disney dong something like this because it doesn't help Disney. It doesn't stop people from buying resale; it just forces sellers to lower their price.

So the change annoys existing owners, lowers the overall value of DVC, and does't help Disney. Not gonna happen