Holy Smokes-$36.99???!!!

[Eeyore'sthebest]

Or, if you wish to quit cigarettes while keeping 'smoking', try the electronic cigarettes (somewhere herein is a thread devoted to such). No cigarettes since April 2009.

Do you have a website that you purchased from? Thx

 

[legalsea]

Do you have a website that you purchased from? Thx

Here is a link to a forum about electronic cigarettes:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/

In addition to learning about the different models, etc., there is also a section called ‘supporting suppliers’; you can read opinions about each supplier, and also link to the suppliers website.

Now, I actually purchase most of my supplies from two places:

http://www.heaven-gifts.com/

Heaven-gifts is a Chinese company that supplies most of the USA suppliers. I have had great success in using Heaven-gifts for purchasing the actual electronic cigarettes (shipping usually takes a week).

I do not, however, buy the ‘e-juice’ from them. Rather, I purchase from this site:

http://www.johnsoncreeksmokejuice.com/

Johnson Creek makes their own e-juice here in the USA.

There are also a few other American juice suppliers in the USA.

Use the Disney Board’s ‘search’ feature and look for ‘electronic cigarettes’ to find more discussion (including mine).

 

[Carly_Roach]

And I hope they continue to go up up up. I believe I read that every time the prices increase, the number of smokers decrease.

Just remember you said that when they start taxing food that's high in saturated fat or or high in sugar. They're already talking about extra taxes for soda pop, McDonalds (any fast food restaurant for that matter) and other unnecessary items that we enjoy. Imagine paying $7.50 or more for that bottle of soda pop that used to cost 1.00 or perhaps $10.00 for that happy meal that used to be $2.00. That's the equivalent of the cigarette taxes you know.

And when people stop eating butter, drinking soda pop and going to McDonalds, the next tax will be on anyone with a BMI over 30. See you at the weigh-in. Today's taxes will look mild compared to how much you're going to be paying for every pound that some actuary calculated for someone your height and age.

Next you won't be able to secure a high-paying job, no matter what your education level is, because your BMI is 30, you're over the age of 40 and you are now uninsurable at a "normal" rate.

Unfortunately, by that time this happens, this particular level of regulating people's civil liberties will already be accepted as normal. See all the people who think it's OK to go after smokers for whatever reason? In about 10 to 15 years, people will be coming after you because you weigh over 150 pounds or you enjoy an alcoholic drink every once in awhile.

And these people coming after you will consider themselves perfectly justified in their judgments and statements to and about you. After all, you're the unhealthy one and they're the healthy ones, right?

In Germany they first came for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me —
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

 

[Free4Life11]

Just remember you said that when they start taxing food that's high in saturated fat or or high in sugar. They're already talking about extra taxes for soda pop, McDonalds (any fast food restaurant for that matter) and other unnecessary items that we enjoy. Imagine paying $7.50 or more for that bottle of soda pop that used to cost 1.00 or perhaps $10.00 for that happy meal that used to be $2.00. That's the equivalent of the cigarette taxes you know.

Well you are being overdramatic, but I would fully support these kinds of taxes. I know that is an unpopular opinion, but hey, American's don't seem to be "getting it" when obesity and the rates of chronic diseases keep rising year after year and I'm sick of my health premiums going up up up.

 

[Eeyore'sthebest]

Thanks legalsea!!

 

[Carly_Roach]

Well you are being overdramatic, but I would fully support these kinds of taxes. I know that is an unpopular opinion, but hey, American's don't seem to be "getting it" when obesity and the rates of chronic diseases keep rising year after year and I'm sick of my health premiums going up up up.

Your health premiums are going up, up, up because the insurance industry wants their money, money, money. It has less to do with the rates of chronic disease and more to do with fewer people paying premiums.

Fewer people with jobs, fewer people paying premiums, those who are left who can pay premiums have to make up the difference so the insurer can show a profit that year.

 

[disfan07]

I say that if you decide to have this disgusting habit, you should have to pay through the nose for it. Everytime i see how much it cost for cigarettes i just shake my head and i honestly just wonder how can people be so dumb to smoke? I just don't get it....does someone want to explain it to me????

My favorites are the people who claim to be so worried about their health and will only eat organic, non processed foods, etc. yet they think nothing about smoking

 

[bunny]

I wonder how much of this price is the actual cost and how much is the tax. I am fundamentally opposed to the government extorting certain items to increase tax revenues. Why have they not also increased the taxes on alcohol or gambling? I don't smoke, but we live in a free country (at least for now) and it angers me when the governement attempts to control people through taxes.

I lived in Germany 20 years ago and at the time cigarettes were already $8 per pack. Most people rolled their own (especially younger people). If you go to Europe today, I can only imagine what the cost has risen to. And they have way more smokers than we do. But, hey, its all good. Their socialized medicine takes care of them.

 

[PlutosFriend]

I think the price for a carton of cigarettes in New York City is now $100.00!!!

Wow, I had NO idea the cigs were costing THAT much lately. TG my smoking days were a phase and that ended years ago when cigs were about 98 cents per pack. Now I am one of those reformed smokers that just totally hates it.

 

[PatsMom]

My husband pays around $50 a carton here in NH for Winston Lights. That is at the discount store - cheapest place in town. The supermarket would be closer to $70. He tries to quit but hasn't had any luck yet.

I quit over three years ago now. It wasn't money that motivated me. It was health. Although the extra money is nice! And I wanted to go to France with my daughter on a school trip and could only go if I wasn't smoking as it was prohibited for anyone in the group. So I had two incentives. I needed the smoking money to pay for the trip and I couldn't smoke if I wanted to go. And France was awesome. My daughter and I had the trip of a lifetime.

But I could go back to smoking in a minute. I haven't had even one because I know if I did I would be smoking two packs a day in a week. I believe most of the price discrepancy is taxes. And when they run out of smokers, they will go after somone else. Now that they are saying they will not prosecute medical marijuana users in CA and some other states, I certainly hope that they will be taxing that at a higher rate than cigarettes since it is more carcinogenic from what I've read.

 

[Carly_Roach]

I say that if you decide to have this disgusting habit, you should have to pay through the nose for it.

And I say if people choose to drink or gamble, also disgusting habits as far as I'm concerned, they should have to pay through the nose for it as well. Let's see, what else do I personlly consider disgusting that I think people should have to pay through the nose for?

If people's disgusting habits were the criteria for taxing, no one would have any take home pay whatsoever.

 

[georgina]

Well you are being overdramatic, but I would fully support these kinds of taxes. I know that is an unpopular opinion, but hey, American's don't seem to be "getting it" when obesity and the rates of chronic diseases keep rising year after year and I'm sick of my health premiums going up up up.

Yeah, I too think taxes should not be compared to the Holocaust, and support taxing junk. My DH quit smoking, and one of the reasons was that his employer charges higher rates for health and life insurance for smokers. A surcharge for BMI over 30 might get people to lose weight.

I also support higher gas prices to get people to drive less!

 

[SAHDad]

Yeah, I too think taxes should not be compared to the Holocaust, and support taxing junk. My DH quit smoking, and one of the reasons was that his employer charges higher rates for health and life insurance for smokers. A surcharge for BMI over 30 might get people to lose weight.

I also support higher gas prices to get people to drive less!

Of course, higher taxes on gas means higher food prices, higher clothing prices, etc, etc, etc.

And the BMI is a terrible way to assess health. It is incredibly simplistic, and is only marginally accurate at best.

 

[Deb in IA]

And I say if people choose to drink or gamble, also disgusting habits as far as I'm concerned, they should have to pay through the nose for it as well. Let's see, what else do I personlly consider disgusting that I think people should have to pay through the nose for?

If people's disgusting habits were the criteria for taxing, no one would have any take home pay whatsoever.

Well, I don't drink, I don't smoke, and I don't gamble. I'm not overweight. Heck, I don't even drive above the speed limit.

(But I'm not perfect - I'm ashamed to say that I do pick my nose on occasion . . . )

 

[C.Ann]

Just remember you said that when they start taxing food that's high in saturated fat or or high in sugar. They're already talking about extra taxes for soda pop, McDonalds (any fast food restaurant for that matter) and other unnecessary items that we enjoy. Imagine paying $7.50 or more for that bottle of soda pop that used to cost 1.00 or perhaps $10.00 for that happy meal that used to be $2.00. That's the equivalent of the cigarette taxes you know.

And when people stop eating butter, drinking soda pop and going to McDonalds, the next tax will be on anyone with a BMI over 30. See you at the weigh-in. Today's taxes will look mild compared to how much you're going to be paying for every pound that some actuary calculated for someone your height and age.

Next you won't be able to secure a high-paying job, no matter what your education level is, because your BMI is 30, you're over the age of 40 and you are now uninsurable at a "normal" rate.

Unfortunately, by that time this happens, this particular level of regulating people's civil liberties will already be accepted as normal. See all the people who think it's OK to go after smokers for whatever reason? In about 10 to 15 years, people will be coming after you because you weigh over 150 pounds or you enjoy an alcoholic drink every once in awhile.

And these people coming after you will consider themselves perfectly justified in their judgments and statements to and about you. After all, you're the unhealthy one and they're the healthy ones, right?

And I say if people choose to drink or gamble, also disgusting habits as far as I'm concerned, they should have to pay through the nose for it as well. Let's see, what else do I personlly consider disgusting that I think people should have to pay through the nose for?

If people's disgusting habits were the criteria for taxing, no one would have any take home pay whatsoever.

I don't think you're being overly dramatic at all.. States NEED this money to fund everything and anything - "except" what they actually claim to be using it for.. When they succeed in making the taxes so high that virtually everyone quits, they will move on to the next group of "bad guys" - the ones who drink, gamble, consume soda and junk foods, etc..

To think otherwise is being caught up in tunnel vision.. "Everyones" turn is coming - sooner or later..

People need to brace themselves - because the higher and faster the increases in cigarettes arrive, the faster "your" turn is coming.. The minority can't support the majority forever - and the money has to come from somewhere..

Time to start weaning yourselves from your indulgences now..

 

[Deb in IA]

Time to start weaning yourselves from your indulgences now..

Pretty good advice - are you going to follow it yourself?

 

[manning]

I was lucky, I smoked only two cigarettes in my life. The second one was with a pepsi. I lit up and took a sip of pepsi and it tasted lousy. I decided I liked my pepsi better and never touched another cigarette again.

 

[ckay87]

I say that if you decide to have this disgusting habit, you should have to pay through the nose for it.

My husband makes these disgusting Hot Pockets in the microwave that are clogging up his arteries and stink the house up like greasy grossness. They should tax those things to high heaven.

Think about it....I have just made the same statement that you have. Yours is just more popular. Mine sounds ridiculous. Yet they say the same thing.

Everytime i see how much it cost for cigarettes i just shake my head and i honestly just wonder how can people be so dumb to smoke? I just don't get it....does someone want to explain it to me????

This is the nature of addiction. It never makes sense, it is not logical. Few people set out to be addicts. By the time they are it is a physical struggle to free themselves. The intellectual part of the equation is out the window. Forget it. Forget saying it's "dumb" - that is just name calling. There is nothing smart about becomming and remaining an addict and they themselves would agree. Again....it is a physical struggle that is, frankly, deserving of some compassion (Note that I don't say "support" or "agreement." Just "compassion.")

 

[Darsa]

My husband makes these disgusting Hot Pockets in the microwave that are clogging up his arteries and stink the house up like greasy grossness. They should tax those things to high heaven.

I wonder which forms of illnesses you will contract by breathing in second-hand Hot Pocket smoke?

 

[C.Ann]

Pretty good advice - are you going to follow it yourself?

Give up my Folger's coffee? NEVER !!! You really would not want to be around me if I did..

If they tax the heck out of it, I'll pay - or die trying...