Hillary Supporters unite part 2; no bashing please

[moon]

They're never going to believe in anything but bad about her just like they never would have voted for her had she won the primary. It's easy for them to pop in over here and harass those of us refusing to jump on the Obama love train because their candidate won the primary. But the way they continue to treat Hillary - even after she's done everything the DNC has asked of her, even after she's thrown her full support behind Obama, show that they don't like her or respect her. They never will.

After this week, what more do they want from her?

In case they don't know, here it is again:

In '76 after losing the primary, Reagan didn't mention Ford's name on his speech at the convention once.

In '80, after losing the primary, Ted Kennedy didn't mention Carter's name once on his speech either

Get it?!?!?!?

 

[Dolce27]

No doubt everyone who campaigned about Obama used that ploy at some point. But Biden was not in an unprecedently high profile campaign as was Hillary/Obama. Biden dropped out before anyone knew he was running. It was always Hillarys race and I was for her. But she lost ( In my estimation, only because she initially underestimated him. Otherwise she would have won) . But it was clear she was going to lose for some time. And thats where she blew her VP chance.

If I haven't made it clear already....I was a big Hillary supporter.

But in reading this thread it's you in particular who keeps bringing up all these God awful things Obama did. How he's so corrupt. How he stole the election. Yet surprisingly, the republicans, or even Hillary , have decided not to use this information you have. I find this oh, so odd.

Share it with the press.



Again. I am/was a Hillary supporter. I still and always will admire her. She would be a great President. But she LOST. And she's not the VP choice because she dug her own grave.

And now..many people who were convinced that Hillary would be that great president that I agree she would be......proclaim that they will vote 180 degrees agains the very platform she has run on.......and against her own advice and counsel.
Some are even more convinced since a woman , 180 degrees against everything Hillary fought for, has been placed on the republican ticket.

I donated a fair chunk of change to Hillarys campaign. She lost. I'm not going to take my ball and go home. I'm going to honor her the best way I can and vote for the nearly same platform she ran on. I'm going to vote for the ticket that represents what SHE believes in. I'm going to vote in the manner that she quite clearly has asked us to.

responded to this post on the new thread

 

[chobie]

After this week, what more do they want from her?

In case they don't know, here it is again:

In '76 after losing the primary, Reagan didn't mention Ford's name on his speech at the convention once.

In '80, after losing the primary, Ted Kennedy didn't mention Carter's name once on his speech either

Get it?!?!?!?

Don't forget how much Obama praised her during this week too. And for the last time (actually, I'll keep reminding you) -its your own people who are saying she is lying about supporting Obama.

 

["Got Disney"]

You are not 50/50. You have never said one good thing about Obama and you frequently join in on the bashing of Obama on the Con thread and others.

I am 50/50 and yes have been critical of Obama because he is my DEM candidate that I am not happy with...I am alsoCritical of McCain and have posted about it on the cons thread. But I never have an argument with them about it ...we debate the why....the OS just come and insult me about it.

Even my family knows how I feel about both the candidates and have told my kids that they need to research both the candidates to decide who they like ...and they are only 11 and 14.

I have never made it a secret on how I feel about Obama just as you have never made it a secret how you feel about Hillary. I wish my decision was made already but it has not. I'm sorry that it's not what you want to here but it's my vote not yours.

 

[moon]

I doubt that she wanted the VP position. I don't doubt she is supporting Obama. But Disunc and Punkin at least have made it clear they think Hillary is lying or being insincere when she says she supports Obama and I didn't think see you getting upset about that.

You're not answering the question.

And again, this is not about what Hillary feels deep inside. This is about her doing what needs to be done. She has done it. She has admirably done it.

 

[chobie]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";27244216]I am 50/50 and yes have been critical of Obama because he is my DEM candidate that I am not happy with...I am alsoCritical of McCain and have posted about it on the cons thread. But I never have an argument with them about it ...we debate the why....the OS just come and insult me about it.

Even my family knows how I feel about both the candidates and have told my kids that they need to research both the candidates to decide who they like ...and they are only 11 and 14.

I have never made it a secret on how I feel about Obama just as you have never made it a secret how you feel about Hillary. I wish my decision was made already but it has not. I'm sorry that it's not what you want to here but it's my vote not yours.[/QUOTE]

You're right I have never made it a secret that I would have voted for Hillary if she got the nomination. That is how I feel about Hillary.

 

[chobie]

You're not answering the question.

And again, this is not about what Hillary feels deep inside. This is about her doing what needs to be done. She has done it. She has admirably done it.

No it is about how she feels inside because it's about character, right? So, if she would mislead people as to who she feels is best to run this country that doesn't speak well about her character, does it?

 

[moon]

No it is about how she feels inside because it's about character, right? So, if she would mislead people as to who she feels is best to run this country that doesn't speak well about her character, does it?

So you are one of those BO supporters who think he is pure as snow and always means what he says? that he has never, ever lied?

And why don't you answer my question?

 

[DISUNC]

Since I'm not around much my two cents may not matter...... I may change my mind. November isn't here yet. I want to hear the debates. But this is the way I'm leaning. Somehow the Love Train title makes me a little uncomfortable. Just because I'm thinking I may vote for him doesn't mean I've joined those that seem to worship him. Don't get me wrong, I'm not upset by the suggestion. It's just not where I think this whole group is at the moment.

In regards to the title, I was just joking!!!!!!! And YOU MUST COME BACK & COME BACK OFTEN!!!!!!!!! Dont make me plow through these boards lookin for ya!

Obama’s running scared on this Ayers connection hitting mainstream. First was the released ad, which was factual, from the American Issues Project and showed the Obama-Ayers connection. I’ve done enough digging on the Ayers-Obama connection to know that the ad barley touched on the relationship – the ad could have gone much deeper. Obama flipped. His campaign sent out documents to the media outlets demanding the ad not be aired. Everything said in the ad can be backed up. It’s factual. Obama is now asking the Department of Justice to open a criminal investigation to stop the ad. Why so scared Obama? I guess because these are facts that can’t be dismissed and you don’t want the average American to know about it?

The other day on the WGN radio talk show with host Milt Rosenberg, they had Dr. Stanly Kurtz as a guest. Dr. Kurtz is the guy going through the Anneberg Challenge (CAC) files from the University of Illinois at Chicago. These are the documents that recently hit news because the University extended the offer to allow Dr. Kurtz to view them and then took back that offer. Finally, after weeks, he’s been allowed access to the files. What’s important about this is that it was started by William Ayers and he appointed Obama as chair for it. Dr. Kurtz is researching the Obama-Ayers relationship and is currently focusing on the $160 million six year long CAC from 1995 – 2001.

WGN invited Obama’s campaign to the show since the topic would be about the Anneberg files. Obama’s campaign refused. Instead they sent out an e-mail to supporters telling the supporters to call the station in protest. WGN’s phone lines and e-mail was “swamped with abuse” and Milt Rosenberg, who is noted as never being overtly partisan, was described as stunned by the hostility they were receiving. The OS were accusing Milt Rosenberg of “smearing” Obama’s name and accused Kurtz of lying. However, since they were only using the Obama’s campaign talking points and didn’t really know what this was about, when pressed for specifics – they had none to give. They just kept the phone lines jammed for at least an hour with hate.

So, yes, Obama doesn’t want you to know that he’s had a relationship with William Ayers and can be tied back to 1988 and that Ayers is one of the people who have helped him to climb this political ladder of his.

On other news: Some PUMA’s were approached the other night in Denver by a group trying to get more people to register to vote for the November election. Nice – right? Get more people to vote and become active in politics? The only thing: they didn’t care where these people they were trying to register were from. Unless they were citizens of Denver, they were not legally allowed to register to vote for Denver. So, there were people out trying to get everyone there for the convention to register to vote in Denver. The PUMA’s asked where the registration forms were being sent to and the group replied: MoveOn.Org.

I heard, I want to say it’s Pittsburg – but I could be wrong on the city – I need to go and look it up – they’ve realized that due to voter fraud they have more people currently registered in their city to vote than they actually have living in their city. I head that it was several thousand over… not just a few. They’re currently having to take the time to sort through the voter registrations.

This whole story is despicable!!!! How anyone can even consider voting for Obama is beyond my comprehension.

Besides his attempts to squash Free Speech, and his playing the race card....I find him repulsive at this point. In regards to "free Speech' He is doing everything the Dems have complained that W has done the past 4 years. And I am not even convinced that W has in any way suppressed free Speech.

I'm hoping too.

Doesn't anyone find funny how many OS are all over the place expressing horror at Palin's inexperience? How can they post such stuff with a straight face?

Amazing aint it!

I'd agree if they were stating it the way you are. But what I'm reading is not comments about the Conservatives hypocrisy in backing an inexperieced VP.

What I'm reading is comments such as "It's scary to have someone so inexperienced so close to the presidency" Or "it worries me that she has no qualifications to be VP". This coming from people who have no problen with inexperience or qualifications for the persidential candidate. People who in fact have said that Obama's inexperience is an asset.

Out of Obama, Biden, McCain & Palin. Palin is the ONLY one with Executive experience. Albeit it not much, But STILL more than any of them put together.

 

[chobie]

So you are one of those BO supporters who think he is pure as snow and always means what he says? that he has never, ever lied?

And why don't you answer my question?

What was it again?

 

[moon]

What was it again?

Do you belive that Obama offered her the VP slot?

I'll post this on the new thread.

Please reply there

 

[DISUNC]

Ew, lots of troll activity here. That's a surprise - NOT!

As for Palin, I'm going to do my research because I don't know a thing about her and I make it a rule to look into people before I slam them. I think some of the tactics being used such as how wrong it was for her to be governor while she has a newborn with special needs or her being too inexperienced are a bit bizarre though.

I did get really annoyed with Obama for a few seconds though. It was kind of an 'even McCain can pick a woman so why not you!' moment but then a cooler head prevailed. McCain's pandering and it's pointless IMO.

I did hear that McCain supposedly hadn't ever met her but said she seemed like a nice woman with quite a story. If that's true, had never met her? That seems odd.

Amazing that many who never even heard of Palin until today have very strong thoughts about her today.

 

[DISUNC]

I definately see that. I really can't wait to see how they do in the debates.

Maybe for the first time in recent history....The DEBATES really will matter!

 

[DISUNC]

I guess this proves my point that HS were voting based purely on gender...

And how is this any different then OS voting strickly for race?

Honestly neither is wrong. It may not be the best way to pick a candidate, but it certainly aint wrong.

 

[DISUNC]

How do you know he did not choose her? She may very well have said no way early on which is why he didn't vet her.

Its been widely reported that he never ever asked her. She was never on the short list! Obama has not denied any of these reports

 

[chobie]

Its been widely reported that he never ever asked her. She was never on the short list! Obama has not denied any of these reports

It's been widely rumored. NO one knows for sure. And if she did turn him down, why the hell would Obama want that known?

 

[Dolce27]

It's been widely rumored. NO one knows for sure. And if she did turn him down, why the hell would Obama want that known?

To appease off her pissed-off supporters that are refusing to vote for him? Many of them are taking it as a slap in the face that he did not pick her for VP. Wouldn't it be better for him if they had made a joint statement that the position was offered to her but she turned it down due to x y and z reason?

 

[chobie]

To appease off her pissed-off supporters that are refusing to vote for him? Many of them are taking it as a slap in the face that he did not pick her for VP. Wouldn't it be better for him if they had made a joint statement that the position was offered to her but she turned it down due to x y and z reason?

And be mocked by the McCain campaign for having been turned down? Either way he would have lost.

 

[Dolce27]

Also, Wolfson did make a few public remarks during Obama's VP search that she was never asked for papers to begin the vetting process and she publically stated that she'd do whatever or be in whatever position the Obama campaign needed her to be in.

 

[chobie]

Also, Wolfson did make a few public remarks during Obama's VP search that she was never asked for papers to begin the vetting process and she publically stated that she'd do whatever or be in whatever position the Obama campaign needed her to be in.

Have you considered that she and Obama decided she would be better in a Cabinet position or on the Supreme court?