Help! Why won't Disneyland (anywhere on property) accept a renewed DL or Tribal ID as Proof of age?

[StormyCA]

Yes, US government. Thanks.

Unless it's a US military ID card/Dependents ID card, I'd bring your passport.

 

[disneychrista]

It is NOT discrimination it is the LAW.

 

[Westcoastwild]

Your store may not have been a training issue, but the one I worked for specifically told us it was because they did not want to dedicate the resources to training us for even other US State IDs let alone international. I do agree it also serves as a safety net as it limits the IDs one must learn and recognize, but I only stated what was true for the store I worked for.

You'd be hard pressed to guess my age. I'm 31. I was mistaken for a 12 year old today (a little more extreme than usual, but I'm rarely identified as older than late teens). Person at the restaurant (not Disney; local buffet place) was almost insistent on giving me the child's meal price until I convinced them I was an adult. I have a friend who is only three years older than me and has the opposite issue. He has been mistaken for my father a number of times (to the point of being told his "daughter" needed to sign the child form). I've always found age guessing to be a flawed process because of this experience. I much prefer IDing everyone. A local concert venue operates under this policy. But it's not law. ID checking itself is to protect a business from unintentionally breaking the law.

Note that "looking under 30" was specific to the store I worked for. There are some stores that card if one looks under 45. Others, like the concert venue I mentioned, card regardless of age appearance.

I don't drink, but if I did, then I would rather someone refuse me than risk their job.

LOL! Right, I have the same problem as your friend. I've had white stripes in my hair since my early twenties and that throws people off. Until I got braces, and now I get id'd everywhere, which is weird. I always based my guesses on behavior and skin appearance and shape- you are probably one of those very petite people who tend to throw my guesses off. But underage kids are usually pretty easy to pick out, anyway- they're usually really self conscious about buying alcohol whereas if you are over 30, it becomes more like one more grocery.

I'd rather people ID instead of lose their jobs as well. Had a lot of coworkers who did not like to id because some customers get very confrontational. I never really minded that though because those are the same nuts who will fight to the death over their expired/misused coupons. or lecture their children on their cashier's morality because I would not accept said coupon. I am so totally rooting for the cast members because of cashiering- I think they get unfairly maligned on this board over truly ridiculous stuff.

 

[Aladora]

FWIW, we just got back from a 4 day trip this afternoon and although I carried our Canadian passports with us, we were never asked for id!

 

[bcla]

It is NOT discrimination it is the LAW.

Disneyland is stricter about the types of ID they will accept than specified by state law. While tribal ID doesn't typically meet the California standard, there's nothing specific about temporary photo ID that makes it unsuitable. It's Disneyland policy that any temporary ID will not be accepted.

 

[disneychrista]

Disneyland is stricter about the types of ID they will accept than specified by state law. While tribal ID doesn't typically meet the California standard, there's nothing specific about temporary photo ID that makes it unsuitable. It's Disneyland policy that any temporary ID will not be accepted.

I bar tend and I was always told that it has to be the actual ID card. A paper print out would be WAAAYYY to easy to fake. I actually had a guy try to show me a photo on his phone of his ID (sorry no go).

 

[bcla]

I bar tend and I was always told that it has to be the actual ID card. A paper print out would be WAAAYYY to easy to fake. I actually had a guy try to show me a photo on his phone of his ID (sorry no go).

These are supposed to be on some sort of special security paper, not that someone outside of the state would know what to look for. They cancel and hand back the previous license in Oregon, and say this about using them together as ID.

https://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/pages/news/cards_faq_business.aspx

What is the purpose of the interim card?
The interim card is intended only as proof that the person has qualified at DMV to obtain, replace or renew a driver license, instruction permit or ID card. Oregon law requires drivers to carry their licenses at all times they are driving, so the interim card will allow them to drive while they wait for their permanent card. DMV also invalidates the person’s current plastic driver license or identification card and hands it back to them to use with their interim card as possible identification. Each business or organization must decide whether to accept these as identification.​

Heck - older passports (the kind where the photo was glued to the page and then embossed together) were relatively easy to swap photos if the embossing could be faked. My first driver licenses were actually printed on photo paper. The front was a composite of a printout (with name/address/description/etc), a standard title bar, and the face. The printout was signed and then inserted into a special camera that took a composite photo of the subject, title, and the paper. I remember my DLs as well as my parents' where the back said "THIS PAPER MANUFACTURED BY KODAK". Now those were the glory days of fake IDs. I think they used to be typed. Here's one of someone famous: