HELP Just arrived and so unhappy

[MrsGoofyMitchell]

I totally agree. I used to take my dance students down for a dance competition. Every 2 girls needed one parent chaperone. Again we used a courtyard to practice but I made them keep the music low and move out of the way if anyone needed to pass. It is not the competitions that are a bad thing but the supervision of the kids competing.

Yes, I agree about it being the supervision! I made a post last night about the cheer groups right outside my building. At 9 pm they had the boombox blaring and the parents/coaches were encouraging the girls to "yell louder" and were yelling and cheering as loud as the girls! Also, the parents/coaches were being rowdy and yelling too in the food court area!

 

[jkstewart1800]

I hope Princess Erin is enjoying a lovely meal, at her new quiet resort with the option of DTD or heading to the parks.... SSR has always looked wonderful!

Erin please come back and let us know how it all turned out!

 

[brittsmum1998]

She never said her room wasn't clean, just that the hotel wasn't clean. I'm guessing she means the "common" areas. Also, she didn't have park tickets yet because it wasn't part of her package. I think someone said earlier that she probably wanted to buy tickets there and tie them to her room key, which she didn't have!

I know you aren't sure about above, but if this was me and I REALLY wanted to go to the park, I would just get the tix instead of wasting the whole day.

 

[babyrich]

On our first trip we stays at All Star Sports. They had some soccer thing going on and it was wall to wall children. In the courtyard, they were kicking the ball around recklessly and just howling. Their parents or coaches were too busy at the bar to care. I dont totally blame the kids, they aren't being told to quiet down.

After that, we passed on the All Star resorts and we make sure there are not "kid conventions" when we go.

 

[MYD714]

Yes, I agree about it being the supervision! I made a post last night about the cheer groups right outside my building. At 9 pm they had the boombox blaring and the parents/coaches were encouraging the girls to "yell louder" and were yelling and cheering as loud as the girls! Also, the parents/coaches were being rowdy and yelling too in the food court area!

This is why they should be booked at a resort specific to catering to groups only. Disney can't chaperone the chaperones, so they shouldn't share resorts with families on vacation.

Not to say that all cheer groups are this way. However, because there is no way to predict which groups will be considerate to resort guests, they should be booked elsewhere.

And, yes, I'm sure families can be rowdy and obnoxious too. However, a loud family is not the same as a loud group of cheerleaders, parents, & coaches.

I don't begrudge cheerleaders anything, and I commend their hard work. I just wouldn't want them ruining my vacation.

 

[mickey2minnie1]

I used to be one of those cheerleaders long, long ago (the ones who are in their rooms at curfews and to busy practicing to be doing disrespectful things). I agree, it is a matter of respect and supervision. Very sad!

I hope you have settled in at SSR and are having something yummy to eat.

Sending some extra pixie dust your way!

 

[Baltazar]

 

[mmmears]

Hoping to hear what happened -- and hoping that the OP is in the parks having fun!

 

[Needafix]

Had to sub....this is like a soap opera. I'm dying to hear how it turned out!

 

[PrincessAlways]

WOW! I cannot imagine how upset the OP must be!! I'd be MAD too! You know, you can understand kids being kids, BUT when it interferes to this extent with the vacation of others, it's ridiculous! Not to mention the condition of the resort! I have never stayed at any of the All Stars, but have been at POP a few times. That has always been nice. This situation should have been taken care of much sooner than it was. Hopefully the OP is in her new home at SSR!!

 

[Natasha&Matt]

 

[flipflopmom]

To the OP: I hope that you get the vacation you dreamed of.

I am hoping my thoughts come across as intended, no one gets offended. (I hate to cause or be in the middle of controversy. I have decided that anyone that books a value hotel should be prepared for some kind of crazyness. We went to Pop last year in July, and lets just say that the Tour Groups drove us nuts. As did the lack of respect we saw from a lot of people. You will definitely find people at all categories of hotels that are disrespectful, don't get me wrong. After reading these boards for a year, I've decided there is NO good time to visit a value, b/c that is where the groups stay. Depending on your personality, it can drive you nuts. As a teacher, I want to get away from that kind of thing on vacation. I totally agree that one of the values should be dedicated to groups, or better yet, build a separate resort for groups. For the sake of families, and the sake of those groups. Make it a little cheaper, impose some chaperone ratio guidelines.etc.

When we came back, we immediately bought DVC. WE ARE SOOOOO FAR FROM RICH, IT IS PATHETIC. We slashed all the fun, eating out, movie channels, etc. in order to do this. It's a sacrifice we make daily in order to afford being DVC members, but one we willingly make as we have decided that WDW is where we want to be for years to come. The only reason I am adding this paragraph, is that I know someone will look at my siggy and say "of course she's downing the values, she's a DVC member". I am, but only because of sacrifice, TRUST ME.

 

[leebee]

Where is OP? I am hoping that she got a great room at SSR and is too busy enjoying herself to get back to the boards, but I sure would like to know the end of this story.

I agree with PP who said, basically, that you get what you pay for. Values attract groups, and families with small children, and families with many children. We go to the values for the cheap prices. I know, $89 rack rate isn't cheap, but it is for Disney, and if that's what you can do, you do it to stay onsite. I think of the values as the "Econolodge" or "Red Roof Inn" of Disney. You have to expect a different type of atmosphere. Having said that, it IS Disney's responsibility to try and enforce the rules they have established, and make sure that group chaperones KNOW the rules also. Geez.. if one smokes in a NS room there is a HUGE fee for cleaning the room after. Perhaps there should be a noise fee for groups, or a deposit that they would forfeit if the "noise police" had to monitor too often? Just joking... Seriously, I think these groups get out of hand easily and that they need to keep the practicing and noise levels within the scope of the rules- or Disney needs to help them do this. However, I have seen many badly acting children, running around like wild things up and down the halls and yelling at deluxe resorts. I'd be WAY annoyed to have to put up with that kind of behavior at those prices, for sure!

I like the idea of group hotels at the sports complex...that'd solve it all!

 

[ajleone]

She said she had a SWA "air and room" package. That does NOT equate to Disney's definition of package, which includes tickets. The SWA packages do not routinely include tickets. She probably was going to purchase the tickets at the resort, and LIKELY wanted them tied to her room key, so no room=no park tickets.

Except that she could have gone to a park and got her tickets used them and tied them to a room that evening... assuming that she didn't have passes.

 

[WDWisOurHappyPlace]

Did you guys notice the view count on this thread?

Come on Princess Erin, a "few" people are waiting to hear what happened.

 

[goofy4tink]

I'm confused as well. You can't be using wireless internet at All Stars unless you were on your phone, and you've already said you were on your laptop.

Why wouldn't you just go to the Parks? Your keys don't have your tickets on them? I can't really see a hotel manager not giving you your tickets.

How do you know your room was dirty if you didn't get to go to your room?

I use my notebook without wifi or a connection all the time...I have Verizon and pay extra every month for x amount of time. It's not a lot of time, but it's something. Makes it nice if I get stuck somewhere without a connection.

In any case....it always seems that people have the time to post about all the bad stuff that is happening to them. But, once it starts to work out, they kind of forget about all of us, sitting here, waiting to see how it went.
I have to say that I have stayed at all levels of resorts...actually really like the values even though I own DVC at two resorts. Just booked Music for some extra time in WDW with my dd after our DVC stay in August. However...I digress.
Every single resort is going to have the chance of having rude people in it. I have stayed at Music at the same time as the PopWarner kids..both football players and the cheerleaders. I have to say that I was pleasantly surprised. Yes, the food court was busy at the expected times. But, we just changed our meal times and were fine...we got there earlier than the kids and had no issues.
We had no trouble with the girls cheering at off hours. Yes, they could get noisy on the buses but what the heck. It was the bus, I wasn't trying to sleep.
As for the resort being dirty.....I hate to be argumentative, but I find that very hard to believe. Disney resorts are ridiculously clean. I have to wonder if perhaps the OP happened upon something that had just occured and maintainance hadn't had a chance to fix it yet.
Noisy neighbors is going to happen everywhere. Heck, it can be happening at SSR for all we know. The worst neighbors I have had, to date, were at the Polynesian. Two different sets of neighbors during our stay....the room changed over to new guests mid-week. They were incredible. I knew every single thing one family was saying all the time. The first family seemed to think that screaming at their children all the time was going to make them behave. Going to bed at night was horrific...and that's all I'm going to say about that one!!!

My high school is sending it's band/orchestra down to WDW on Monday. I have already mentioned to a few of the chaperones the situations that the kids can find themselves in, behaviour wise. I really hope that our kids don't make anyone else uncomfortable. It is really up to chaperones to make sure the kids are behaving...especially at the resort level. The quarters are too close in most of those resorts for high jinx of any kind. It's all about respect for others. It's nice that you are there to compete, or to perform. But that does NOT give you the right to act out and make other guests suffer.

 

[mom of 3 blondes]

Princess Erin....Where are you? Hope you are NOW enjoying the magic...

 

[Veals_Family]

OP....

I hope you are settled in at your new resort and are having a good time.....I along with a 'few' others would love to know how you are doing......

I hope someone was able to sprinkle some pixie dust for you!!!

 

[swald91]

Let's face it, Disney makes money on all these competitions, cheer, dance, pop warner, twirl-you name it. I have never had an issue w/ any of these kids but have been in the park with them (not the resort) some of them are rude & obnoxious but I think alot of it is b/c they are w/o parents. I don't think that they should loud at the resort-(value vs deluxe) it's your vacation & like another poster mentioned RESPECT doesn't seem to be acceptable anymore-from what I've read here recently even parents seem to encourage bad behavior-if that's the case-how do we expect these kids to behave properly? Anyway...hope everything worked out for you & you are now able to enjoy your vacation. (I can't remember the place Iread it, but it seems like Disney has stuff going on with these kids MANY weekends throughout the year-if they mentioned this when reservations are made, people may change their minds about going JMO & if I was warned about them staying there-I'd opt for another place)

 

[Esmerelda]

Ok...now I'm also hooked in wondering how this all played out? She needs to update us! There are 10 pages of responses on this topic.

I know some people will not agree with me but we stayed at either Pop or one of the other values years ago. This would have been during non-school time. We did not care for it at all. I dont' care if it would have been $50 a night, it was not for us. The noise in the food court gave us all one big headache. Kids were runnig rapant (not sure where their parents were?) The room was VERY small for 4 people. We felt like we were on top of each other.

We are DVC owners at SSR and love it. It's quiet, has a great central location (pool, food court, Turf Club is awesome!, community hall...etc) Plus the buses only go to this resort so they don't take forever.

I hope she lets us know where she ended up and if it's much more pleasant.

In this situation, I would have been happy at any other resort, but not a value. I guess I don't understand where security is at when all of this is going on? The only other thing I can say is VIDEO CAMERA. When we have run into this sort of issue whether on land or on a cruise ship, I just video tape what we are dealing with. You can't dispute an actual video plus it shows management that you are not exaggerating the situation. It has worked twice for me and I will put up with a lot before I break out the camcorder.

Waiting patiently.....for an update.