Health update

First off, let me ask this: When did they start calling emergency rooms "emergency departments"? When I was driving around yesterday trying to find a spot to park I saw a sign that said "ED only".

There isn't a specific date or time as to when the title of such a large department was changed to a more appropriate one...just a little information about why it isn't a "room" any more.

Think about it - this is a large multi-roomed and multi-disciplinary area that treats everything from trauma to the flu. People come into the ED for every little ill. To call such a large department a "room" is insulting to those who work there. The area uses: MD, PA, APN, BSN, LPN, NA (all of these in the immediate patient care), now add: X-ray tech, phlebotomists, CT techs, radiologists and many other ancillary personnel and you begin to see how many people work in this "room". In addition, the accreditation to become a trauma center requires that you have an operating room (or department) in the ETD...again; calling it a room is a bit silly, hmm?

Most do NOT have insurance; the staff are expected to take care of each patient instantly but may have 15 patients at the same time. No other area of the hospital has that type of patient load. Most areas are 8:1 at the worst. Only in the Emergency Trauma Department is the load rule lifted.

Ok - now that I have said that piece. I speak as an ED RN and a paramedic. I know the system inside and out. Here are the bottom lines.

Many people (the percentage is reaching over 50% in some areas actually) are uninsured. Hospitals are mandated by EMTALA laws to treat and see EVERYONE. The hospital 'eats' that cost. Many hospitals are going under; this causes the remaining ones to carry that burden.

Many patients choose to not listen to their instructions. When being discharged, the patient should ask questions about the prescription - in your case the Ibuprofen you were prescribed can be used in the over the counter version - look at the number of milligrams ordered and take the same number by doing the math. The OTC version is 200 per tablet - if you were told to take 800 - that is 4 tablets. Just be sure to take it with food. NEVER on an empty stomach. EVER. unless you really want a bleeding ulcer.


Next item - most ETD MD's don't read X-rays - the radiologist does. So, since the MD didn't look at yours I will assume the radiologist (a physician by the way) did, and gave the ETD MD a report of the findings. The ER RN will read the labs, not the MD, and report anything that is amiss. The ETD MD has most likely ALL the patients to take care of, not just the 15 or so the RN has.

In my full time job's (I am a paramedic at this facility) hospital the ETD is 85 adult beds (separate pediatric ED of about 35 beds), this is staffed by 3 or 4 MDs, 2 PAs, 2 APNs, and 15 RNs. think about how many patients each person has to see. That is assuming the ETD is only at capacity. For the most part, there are seldom less than 100 patients in the ETD at any given moment.

A pre-diagnosed issue that has not resolved is not as emergent as a life-threatening problem - such as cardiac arrest, or life threatening asthma. I can go on and on - but I think everyone gets my point.

I am defending my professions and co-workers here. I feel that you have maligned them in a way that is not fair. You are rating them based solely on your limited exposure and without the knowledge of what they deal with, have to do and the training required.

Yes, the ETD is a great place, however even the little community hospital ED is a very busy place. I work as an ED RN in a small community hospital - only 200 beds. The ED has 25 beds - we see an average of 15 patients at any given moment at 4am...during the day that number swells to 35. this is done with 3 RNs, 1 MD, 1 PA and 2 techs. So, the waits range from 1 hr to 5 hrs.

At my full time facility - the average wait is 6 to 8 hours.

If you noticed, I used 2 different terms to describe the Emergency areas of the hospitals - that is because the accreditation is different. The ETD is a trauma center, accreditated by the federal, state, and local governments. The ED is a smaller community hospital area that carries only state and local accreditation. All the staff that work in both are required to carry many years of experience and education. Please realize that the ED or ETD is not a clinic. We are used as such and that is just a HUGH burden on all of the health care system in the USA.

For you follow-up - please go to the assigned clinic, you only have to pay a little bit each month to ensure they don't sue you. But, many people lie about their ability to pay. There is also the illegal component here. Many people just are not qualified to our free health care system - thus the research. Yes, it takes months, because of all the cutbacks in personnel to find out you are being truthful. Not everyone is.

<Climbing off my soapbox now>

Thanks for "listening"
 
MMan - I hope you are feeling better! :hug:
I debated about saying this, but I think I have to say it. If the pain changes or you get a funny feeling about it or you are uneasy witht he situation, GO BACK to the hospital. I lost a very dear freind to a fatal heart attack. The Dr. told him it was pleurisy. :guilty: Hopefully yours IS pleurisy and is already resolving! :wizard:
 
Thank you everyone. I appreciate it. :grouphug::grouphug:


.....Many patients choose to not listen to their instructions. When being discharged, the patient should ask questions about the prescription - in your case the Ibuprofen you were prescribed can be used in the over the counter version - look at the number of milligrams ordered and take the same number by doing the math. The OTC version is 200 per tablet - if you were told to take 800 - that is 4 tablets. Just be sure to take it with food. NEVER on an empty stomach. EVER. unless you really want a bleeding ulcer.....

Yep, that's exactly what I did. Motrin is mahvelous.

As for the other things: Easy....easy....easy.... :flower3: I wasn't bashing anything/anyone. I was just concerned that I may have been misdiagnosed. The two doctors that kept coming in kept seeming to forget that I'm a diabetic because each time they came in I had to remind them and they'd act surprised. The doctor that checked my eye out didn't look inside the eye. Rather, he looked at the white of my eye and noticed that my eyelid was swollen at which point he said, "Oh, it's probably just your eyelid", as in he was guessing. I'm just concerned because my vision is a bit wonky and I see lights and rings of color if I rub my eye or even touch the bridge of my nose.

One of my biggest pet peeves is whenever people dismiss or ignore what I'm saying or feeling because it happens all the time. (Possibly because I'm very quiet. Who knows. This was definitely the case that day considering I wasn't breathing very well.) The attending resident was skimming the surface of being rude, which I forgave since I understood that he had probably seen about 50 patients prior to seeing me. But the main doctor is who really kind of irked me--He came in, sat down and asked me a couple questions, and then his cell phone rang, which he answered as he ironically sat directly under the big sign on the wall that said "No cell phones". It was his wife, so he excused himself. Upon leaving he said, "I'll just send the resident in to see you. You don't seem too bad." That was the last I saw of him.
 

Pleurisy? Gosh. That is wicked painful stuff. :( Like you don't know that, eh? :rolleyes:

I cannot agree with you more. This country needs a viable health care plan for all people, not just those who are employed (and some of us who are employed still have lousy insurance).

I hope you feel better fast and don't have to return to the hospital.

Padalyn, we have an ER RN in the family, too. She works her butt off. The entire situation is untenable for all concerned, docs, RNs, techs, patients, everyone.
 
Why did I not see this post yesterday?! Here's some more positive energy vibes coming your way!
 
Pleurisy? Gosh. That is wicked painful stuff. :( Like you don't know that, eh? :rolleyes:

I cannot agree with you more. This country needs a viable health care plan for all people, not just those who are employed (and some of us who are employed still have lousy insurance).

I hope you feel better fast and don't have to return to the hospital.

Padalyn, we have an ER RN in the family, too. She works her butt off. The entire situation is untenable for all concerned, docs, RNs, techs, patients, everyone.

Painful? Yes. ::yes:: But Motrin makes me feel aaaaaaaall better. Except for my eye......but that's another story. :rolleyes:

Why did I not see this post yesterday?! Here's some more positive energy vibes coming your way!

Forget the vibes.....
Send me more Motrin!!! :lmao::lmao:

Thank you. :hug:
 
Speaking of Motrin...

I take 800 mg. ibuprofen for my back. Last time I got like 100 pills for $5 at Sam's pharmacy. It was WAAAYYY cheaper than buying them over the counter! They are the generic "ibuprofen" tablets as opposed to Motrin or Advil. WalMart has the same sort of program for generics.

Don't know why I didn't think of that before! :headache:
 
Speaking of Motrin...

I take 800 mg. ibuprofen for my back. Last time I got like 100 pills for $5 at Sam's pharmacy. It was WAAAYYY cheaper than buying them over the counter! They are the generic "ibuprofen" tablets as opposed to Motrin or Advil. WalMart has the same sort of program for generics.

Don't know why I didn't think of that before! :headache:

Good post. When we left the U.S. Target Pharmacy was also doing the $4 (was about to go up to $5) generics. It is worth a call to one of these places to find out what your script would cost:thumbsup2
 
Be really careful with generics though. Generic ibuprofen is not a huge issue, I use it myself, but I ran into a boat load of trouble when using (Target) generic thyroid medication. Whew. Don't want to have that happen again.

Some issues do require a higher quality of medication than what some of the generics are. With something as fussy and in need of minute amounts as thyroid meds can be (and after my scary experience) I now believe my doc when she says, "Don't get the generic for this med." ::yes::
 












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