Have you seen this?

[brockash]

I am glad the guy took off and I'm even glad he hurt some one. It shows these guys people aren't going to sit around and let themselves be mugged or killed by them. It's a fight or flight response. I'm honestly sorry more of them didn't get hurt.

As sad as it is I kinda agree with you. I completely agree about being glad he took off and didn't just sit there to b attacked or who knows what else. It's hard and seems wrong ti be glad someone is hurt, but in this situation and how completely disgusting these excuses for human beings acted and the fact that they felt so entitled that the on bikes literally tried to cause an accident between themselves and an SUV and then sat in front of the vehicle in the middle of a road to block the family from being able to get out of harms way, makes me also somewhat glad the guy got hurt and kinda wish more would have. As sad as it is to have to think that way...at least the guy that got hurt might think twice or physically be unable to torment others. They were totally of the bullying mindset and sometimes with bullies...fighting back (although really in this situation it was just a man trying to get himself and family out of harms way) is the only thing that works.

I'm also completely disgusted and have absolutely no respect for the family of the bikers speaking out about how horrible the real victim/family is.

 

[mjkacmom]

Another thing that someone here, I think, pointed out: this gang has come into the city a couple other times and have done the same thing and quickly left. I don't know if this is true, but the PP person said that the police were told NOT to chase down these guys, as, if one of the gang runs over someone or causes an accident while running away due to a police chase, the police department would get sued, not the gang member. A Gloria Allred would go after the NYPD, as they have money, not the gang members.

I've read in the past, that police in California no long chase criminals in high speed chases. As they too, have been sued by a pedestrian who was hurt due to a high speed chase. Even though the criminal caused the situation in the first place, causing the police to chase them, the criminals say that they wouldn't have been speeding away, the way they were, had the police not chased them. So, it all was the police's fault.

We have a local highway here that is an artery to get stolen cars into Newark, NJ. Our local police have to make a judgement call about these chases throughout the towns, because of civilian risk.

 

[Albort]

0.o it gets worst...

Consuegra said he had no other choice but to jump in when he saw Rosalyn Ng being dragged out of the SUV, and says the young mother was told "you're going to get it, too".

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=9276222

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

0.o it gets worst... http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=9276222

Oh, that is just heartbreaking.

I wonder if those who said he originally overreacted still feel that way. I can't imagine the helpless feeling in trying to keep your family safe in a situation like this.

 

[iheartdisney]

I've read in the past, that police in California no long chase criminals in high speed chases. As they too, have been sued by a pedestrian who was hurt due to a high speed chase. Even though the criminal caused the situation in the first place, causing the police to chase them, the criminals say that they wouldn't have been speeding away, the way they were, had the police not chased them. So, it all was the police's fault.

I get text alerts when a high speed pursuit is happening, they still happen at least once a week. Sometimes several in one day. One of my favorite things about living in California!
What they did ask a few months ago is for the news choppers to back off, as many times if a chase has been going on for awhile you will see regular people try to get involved because they know they will be on TV. They'll run out in the road and wave at the news helicopters. They will try and stop the vehicle. They will even try and stop the police. So the news stations were asked by LAPD to maybe back off, not air live chases, but they haven't yet, not that I've noticed.

 

[PizzieDuster]

Oh, that is just heartbreaking.

I wonder if those who said he originally overreacted still feel that way. I can't imagine the helpless feeling in trying to keep your family safe in a situation like this.

Oh, I know. This man in the article posted above, who helped, should be honored.

My first experience with road rage terrified me. I didn't do it on purpose but a truck got in front of me on the freeway and slammed on his brakes, not once but 3 times. I was terrified. I never understood what I did? Change lanes with no signal? I immediately got off the freeway to control myself. When they slam on the brakes in front of you...its scary. This was one guy in a truck...I can't imagine all those bikers.

 

[mhsjax]

The article says that the SUV driver first hit a biker and then after that they chased them. Also says the video is only a portion of the altercation.

Like all things, we may never know the truth. But there is a biker with a life changing spine injury - did you see that?

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[topolino]

Yep I saw it, he brought it on himself. I saw a biker pull right in front of the the SUV and slow down on purpose so that the SUV would hit him. ( this is not uncommon, even in cars) Then when the truck hit him they started in around the SUV. They had him trapped. They were breaking windows and there was a 2 year old in the back seat. What was the driver supposed to do, sit there and let them kill the whole family?

Sorry, but if these bikers hadn't been in a mod mentality, this wouldn't have happened.

I am glad it was a spine injury and not death. Now he'll have a lifetime to be trapped in his wheelchair, just as he and his fellow gangsters trapped this family in their SUV. He's young so he'll have a long time to think about the fact that he willingly joined a terrorist organization.

I'm of the ilk that feels bad for victims only when they are innocent.

 

[mhsjax]

I am glad it was a spine injury and not death. Now he'll have a lifetime to be trapped in his wheelchair, just as he and his fellow gangsters trapped this family in their SUV. He's young so he'll have a long time to think about the fact that he willingly joined a terrorist organization.

I'm of the ilk that feels bad for victims only when they are innocent.

Yep me too. He is 100% responsible for his injuries.

 

[FlyingDumbo]

The so called "victim" or injured biker here was really just a ticking time bomb on the road. With all the traffic offenses, speeding, reckless driving, and offenses for driving without a license or insurance, it was just a matter of time before he caused an accident. He obviously had zero remorse for all the unlicensed driving, he has been in and out of jail for the last decade on drug charges. You play with fire long enough, you will get burned. I am thankful it bit him in the behind and not an innocent driver.

 

[PrincessKsMom]

Saw an alert on FB by ABC news that the guy who videotaped the whole thing is now receiving death threats. My how the animals have turned on each other. I'm sure that guy gets plenty of slaps on the back when he films their stunts and them terrorizing drivers.

 

[glammadiva]

As sad as it is I kinda agree with you. I completely agree about being glad he took off and didn't just sit there to b attacked or who knows what else. It's hard and seems wrong ti be glad someone is hurt, but in this situation and how completely disgusting these excuses for human beings acted and the fact that they felt so entitled that the on bikes literally tried to cause an accident between themselves and an SUV and then sat in front of the vehicle in the middle of a road to block the family from being able to get out of harms way, makes me also somewhat glad the guy got hurt and kinda wish more would have. As sad as it is to have to think that way...at least the guy that got hurt might think twice or physically be unable to torment others. They were totally of the bullying mindset and sometimes with bullies...fighting back (although really in this situation it was just a man trying to get himself and family out of harms way) is the only thing that works.

I'm also completely disgusted and have absolutely no respect for the family of the bikers speaking out about how horrible the real victim/family is.

And Gloria Aldred disgusts me. Any case to get face on TV!

 

[Imzadi]

0.o it gets worst...

Consuegra said he had no other choice but to jump in when he saw Rosalyn Ng being dragged out of the SUV, and says the young mother was told "you're going to get it, too".

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=9276222

Grrr!!!! Did you guys read THIS part???

Consuegra then jumped in between the biker who was smashing Lien with his helmet, and it was all over.

These people are complete savages! He used his helmet to smash against the window 6 times to break it open, then he used that same WEAPON to to try to smash the SUV driver's head in. AND the driver was knifed in the head & chest too according to previous police accounts.

The only reason the SUV driver doesn't have a fractured scull, permanent brain damage, or isn't dead, is because two people on their way to CHURCH stepped in!

That child in the back seat could have become an orphan, or have been put in foster care(?), if the family had no relatives or friends to take the care of the child while both parents were in the hospital.


And I saw on Good Morning America on Friday, that one of the motorcycle riders came forward and said something like the SUV driver started it all by swerving back & forth, changing lanes and stuff like that, not letting them pass, and THAT is why they surrounded the SUV. So it's all the SUV driver's fault this happened.

The reporter's face showed such disgust, she couldn't hide it, while the guy was acting all innocent, like it was the SUV driver's fault. I'd love to know if the police did a background check on this guy, and whether he has a police record.

It couldn't be like the SUV driver saw & heard 30ish motorcycles coming up the West Side Hwy and tried to get out of the way. He didn't know which lane to get in to let them pass. As they started surrounding the SUV, the driver was looking out all windows & mirrors and yes, he was swerving a little in fear & panic, trying to get out of the way.

The SUV driver couldn't have been swerving too much, if they were able to surround the car and get in FRONT of it. It clearly shows that in the video, before the one a****** brake checked him.

For the people on this thread who still think the SUV driver was at fault for driving away and accidentally running over the rider while trying t save their lives, these savages used their motorcycles, knives and helmets as weapons against this family. They had the capability to do this the first time they stopped the driver, and the reality is: they DID use them all against this family. They proved this family was right in fearing for their lives.

If you fault the SUV driver, do you fault the wife too, for just being in the SUV? She was targeted too, and almost beaten.

The wife didn't publicly say what happened to her, the Good Samaritan by-stander did. She didn't make up that they feared for their lives.

 

[Imzadi]

Saw an alert on FB by ABC news that the guy who videotaped the whole thing is now receiving death threats. My how the animals have turned on each other. I'm sure that guy gets plenty of slaps on the back when he films their stunts and them terrorizing drivers.

I'm wondering if he's not the undercover cop? Or was influenced by the cop to post it all on YouTube. It's a perfect way for a cop to record all the drug stuff going on around and no one paying much attention to it after a while, as they would if a cell phone camera was pulled out.

 

[Imzadi]

Here is a video interview of one of the Good Samaritans who stepped in and stopped the savage animals. He said, "I have to do something. This family is going to get KILLED if no body intervenes in this situation. [ . . .] I felt the tense moment, I felt the danger. But I took a chance at that moment in time."

He was/will be honored today or tomorrow in Washington Heights, near where the incident happened.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/video?id=9276333

 

[JakeJenna]

Oh, that is just heartbreaking.

I wonder if those who said he originally overreacted still feel that way. I can't imagine the helpless feeling in trying to keep your family safe in a situation like this.

I can't speak for anyone else but yes I do. I see it as two different incidents, the first on the highway and the second when he stopped. I do not interpret the video on the highway as a violent situation admittedly it is not a good view. Based on my own personal experience I don't see what most here see, I wonder how many here have any personal experience with a situation like this to make a legitimate interpretation. I believe that a couple snapped after they seen their friend get run over. I don't think what happened either time supports the mob mentality claims so many here have made, even the second time it was only a couple of people not a mob. To me the situation is like two people arguing one pulls a gun the other pulls his and shoots, the first person then says see I was right to pull my gun because eventually he would of shot me even though he was the one that escalated the situation.

 

[luvsJack]

I can't speak for anyone else but yes I do. I see it as two different incidents, the first on the highway and the second when he stopped. I do not interpret the video on the highway as a violent situation admittedly it is not a good view. Based on my own personal experience I don't see what most here see, I wonder how many here have any personal experience with a situation like this to make a legitimate interpretation. I believe that a couple snapped after they seen their friend get run over. I don't think what happened either time supports the mob mentality claims so many here have made, even the second time it was only a couple of people not a mob. To me the situation is like two people arguing one pulls a gun the other pulls his and shoots, the first person then says see I was right to pull my gun because eventually he would of shot me even though he was the one that escalated the situation.

And you don't think that its even remotely possible that these animals would have done the same thing on the highway had he not taken off? Seriously? You don't think it is remotely possible that they were doing things that had him frightened for his and his family's safety which is what caused him to take off and run over that guy?

No one "snapped", they did exactly what they planned to do. I don't know about "mob" mentality but its certainly thug mentality.


Besides, most sane, law abiding people would have been back on the highway with their injured friend and given he police the van's tag number.


Have you ever been around an actual motorcycle gang?-- There is most definitely a gang mentality there. They most definitely "protect" their own, They problem is they protect their own even when its their own that was being a threat.

 

[Tozzie]

I can't speak for anyone else but yes I do. I see it as two different incidents, the first on the highway and the second when he stopped. I do not interpret the video on the highway as a violent situation admittedly it is not a good view. Based on my own personal experience I don't see what most here see, I wonder how many here have any personal experience with a situation like this to make a legitimate interpretation. I believe that a couple snapped after they seen their friend get run over. I don't think what happened either time supports the mob mentality claims so many here have made, even the second time it was only a couple of people not a mob. To me the situation is like two people arguing one pulls a gun the other pulls his and shoots, the first person then says see I was right to pull my gun because eventually he would of shot me even though he was the one that escalated the situation.

I am truly horrified that you fail to see this group for exactly what they are, Savages, i don't need personal experience in order to interpret what was done to this poor family, it is all on video and if you can't see it, that is because you don't want to .

 

[CaoilinnsMom]

i did not read all of the posts, so I don't know if anyone else said something similar....but
The families on both sized were victims in this. The kids of the biker who was run over still have a permanently disabled dad. The family of the driver may never be able to look at a person on a motorcycle without fear. None of them asked for it, but they must deal with it anyway. I don't think the family of the biker deserve contempt or any less of our sympathy than the driver's family do.
Just saying....

 

[dakcp2001]

i did not read all of the posts, so I don't know if anyone else said something similar....but
The families on both sized were victims in this. The kids of the biker who was run over still have a permanently disabled dad. The family of the driver may never be able to look at a person on a motorcycle without fear. None of them asked for it, but they must deal with it anyway. I don't think the family of the biker deserve contempt or any less of our sympathy than the driver's family do.
Just saying....

He was breaking the law being there. He made his bed. You can be as sympathetic as you want, but he did not have any respect for the law and has been in jail multiple times. So while I am sympathetic for his children, it is for a whole lot of reasons more than this incident.