Have you ever had anyone "keep YOUR change"

[kendzee94]

On Christmas morning 2004 at Chef Mickey's this happened to us. As we were finishing up breakfast, DH handed our waitress $100 (four of us for breakfast appx $65-$70 with tax). We waited for about 20 minutes and flagged her down to ask for our change. Waited another 20 minutes and had to ask again. Okay, it was Christmas, but a $30- $35 tip, come on!!! We would have left her $20 (simply because it was Christmas), but she ruined that!!!

 

[vhoffman]

Somewhat OT, but I'm seriously considering homeschooling, too. My son is in third grade and can't spell his first name! And he's on the A B honor roll!Well, in all fairness, he goes by his middle name, which he can spell. But you'd think he'd know how to spell his first name by the time he's 9 years old! I just realized this last week. I now make it one of his spelling words and he has to practice it every day, along with his usual spelling words. Oh, and he can't spell "spell" Just what in the Sam Hill are they teaching them, anyways? BTW, our school is one of the highest rated in the state. I'd hate to see what the others are like!

 

[vhoffman]

A $20 tip at Chef Mickey's??????????????? Its a buffet!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Carrie Ellis]

vhoffman, My boys (9 year old twins) love it (homeschooling). I am strong in math and it bothers the heck out of me when cashiers can not add or subract simple math. One time I ordered 4 99cent happy meals (happy hour at McDonalds) and the lady told me it would be like $5.50 and I said "no, 4 99cent meals is $4 plus a little tax." She argued with me because that is what her computer said. I am thinking that this is pitiful!! Ended up that she had charged me for a water but it took 3-4 employees to finally figure it out.

I have tutored lots and lots and many kids these days can not add! I don't want my boys to end up in that condition. Homeschooling allows me to constantly monitor them in a good way. I don't find out at the end of the week that they did not catch on to a new chapter back on Monday! Which is always to late! If they work at McDonalds, I want them to be able to add up them happymeals! ha!

 

[VintageKnight]

I'm appaled on what there trying to teach my 1st grader, he came home with his math papers and it had stuff that looked like algerbra negative positive things on it, come on, we didnt even do multiplication until i was in late third grade.

and back ON subject thanks to whomever replied to my earlier posts and assumed we dont rotate workers in drive thru, we do, most sonics do. sonic is not a mcdonalds or arbys or burger king were 75 percent of sales goes thru drive through. and you have dedicated workers that get paid better due to there skills, my girls skate and hustle outside for there tips, and rarely do anything other than that except for some light cleaning, they have to be moving. drive through is an entirely diff story, they have to hustle inside to get your order out in ther same 4 minutes the other girls due regaurdless how many shakes and drinks you ordered get it right and take the orders comin thru drive through and keep their sanity.

why is it like this?

I ran an arbys for close to a yr. had 9 on clock during lunch. 2 in drive thru, 3 on counter 2 on sandwiches 1 on fryers and me floating anywere i needed to be. 79 percent of our sales went out the window. premade sandwiches, and most focus on drive thru and an ungodley amount of profit on those sandwiches made it almost a million dollar profit store my yr. we could afford to pay better.

my store now, 3 carhops, 1 drive thru, 2 cooks, 2 rotating between order taking, sacking, and drink making. and me floating were i need to be. nothing is precooked in a sonic we are a cook to order store. 67 percent of business goes out the window. we had amazing growth since i've been ther over the last few managers, I'm hiring better treating my customers better yet still only made 620 thousand in profit last calendar yr. My sonic location is fully paid for, its the only reason its open. but out of all 23 sonics in my franchise, only 2w are close to the million mark. I have to have the same amount of people doing roughly the same amount of tickets yet have nothing close to the monitary resources as other chains do. Were inner city, the tips stink, the customers are so-so ( meaning not in a good mood before they ever come to us), what saves us is a college on one side and a hospital around the corner.

I'm tired and long winded, I'm sorry. but at sonic, and any other drive-in,we have multiple chains in oklahoma like sonic, tip, please tip, these type of establishments do so much more physical work to get your service with out the resources the mega take your money and leave ya stores do.

I'f we leave ya with a good experience let us know with at least a smile, you'd be suprised how much we dont even get that.

Chris

 

[LuluLovesDisney]

I am appalled that people think to blame teachers for so many things. I can tell you, what I teach is based on the curriculum and textbook I am given in the beginning of the year, that I see my students for 40 minutes a day, the other 23 hours and 20 minutes I have no control over, and I certainly tell students every single day to pick up trash and various other things I consider to be important. Some have listened, whether or not they agree, but some do not. It is very difficult to manage and discipline a room full of 600 students- with only 3 teachers. I cannot control it or get upset if someone leaves some garbage or a few pennies behind. It is sometimes possible to write them up (detention, etc.) to teach that actions have consequences but more often than not the stray piece of garbage is something like a napkin, not something that I would have remembered who had it.

I certainly think that parents have an impact. If students leave garbage behind at school, I doubt they're cleaning up after themselves at the local McDonald's. My parents taught me to clean up after myself. If I've truly absorbed that value, I will be that way everywhere.

In addition, every day I see parents sticking up for their kids in the office- saying that "Little Johnny" couldn't have done that. In many cases, I've seen them say it or do it with my own two eyes. I wish they'd wake up and see that they are just enabling their misbehavior.

Despite the fact that I think parents have a great deal of responsibility to teach their children the value of money, kindness, etc. I also am committed to teaching the same things. We should be working together, not seeking to blame someone. I spend a great deal of time on this. Teaching used to be the most well respected profession and in many other countries, still is. I cannot understand how some would not still feel that way. Maybe students are just not being taught to regard their teachers as sensei- honorable helpers on their path.

Off to teach.

 

[momof2inPA]

and drive thru... please tip, these girls dont get car hop time and your talkin about there gas money, this time of yr sales are random and the big wigs dont give us a huge margin to pay these kids with, so if we want good workers we have to start em high but theres only so much we can go up in wages...

If these girls are not getting car hop time, they are not working tipped positions, and it would be illegal to pay them less than minimum wage. If they are receiving minimum wage for working the drive thru, that's ok in my book. I have never and will never tip at the drive thru, not even at Starbucks.

 

[Pixiedust34]

It is very difficult to manage and discipline a room full of 600 students- with only 3 teachers.

Amen to that! Teachers with lunch duty should get hazardous duty pay.

To keep this on topic, it is a shame to see money thrown away regardless of the circumstance. A great number of adults must not care if they throw away pennies, either. My kids are always on the lookout for money ( ) and they find a bunch of pennies each week! People must not bother to stoop to pick up a penny when they drop one. That's silly of them, but good for us. Those pennies go right into our vacation jar.

I get the biggest thrill of finding a penny on the ground.

 

[Shannon G]

And the poster who is having trouble with Sonic may not realize that it is customary to tip the server there. That may be why they are having trouble with the server not giving back small amounts of change without being asked.

I don't care HOW customary it is to tip - it is RUDE and inappropriate for any waitperson to assume that they can keep any of your change without asking! GIve me back whatever change I am due - ALL OF IT - and I will decide how much I am willing to tip for the service I received. I do try to tip well (waited tables a bit back when I was in school - a horrible job! I give credit to those who do it) but would be very annoyed if the person waiting on me took it upon themselves to just keep their tip on their own.

 

[rigs32]

Vintage Knight said:

"and drive thru... please tip, these girls dont get car hop time and your talkin about there gas money, this time of yr sales are random and the big wigs dont give us a huge margin to pay these kids with"

And then he said:

"thanks to whomever replied to my earlier posts and assumed we dont rotate workers in drive thru, we do"

If you do rotate workers, then how do you explain your first post requesting that people tip the drive-thru worker? You made it sound like we are expected to tip each worker.

If everyone gets time as a car hop during their shift, then they each get time to collect tips and there should be no need to tip the drive-thru.

 

[pyrxtc]

I am shocked, but really not surprised, at the various posts from teachers complaining that kids leave money on the cafeteria tables, along with their trash, or, worse still, just throw away the change with their trays. I expect some flames here (but hey? I just got a good deal on a flame-proof suit, and got the correct change ), but I think part of the reason kids in school don't pick up after themselves is that they're not taught to do so. No,I don't mean the parents don't teach them at home, I mean, its what they're allowed to get away with at school.

My kids are currently in elementary (public) school. It seems that, at least in our school, the school is more concerned with making it an ongoing party rather than getting down to basics (which, BTW, I take responsibility for by teaching reading, math, etc at home). Seems just about every other week there's some sort of special doings, field trips, parties, stage shows, special guest entertainers, etc., etc., Even a "normal" day is more of a carnival atmosphere than a work environment (yes, I do believe that school is my kids' job, just like dh and I have jobs). They spend so little time on the core subjects, such as reading, writing, math, etc. They're forever in "enrichment" classes--music, art, gym, etc. They're in the hall half the time, going from place to place. And when they get there, everything is all set up for them to tear in to. The class periods are only 45 minutes long, so they can't spend much time in prep work, and heaven forbid they should have to actually put things away. There simply isn't time for prep and cleanup. They have been conditioned to thinking that they're somehow entitled to being "entertained" every minute, with all the prep work done, then, when through, they just flit off to another activity without cleaning up the mess from the current activity. Oh, yes, they are responsible for some things, like putting their backpacks away, etc., but they aren't responsible for the entire cleanup, it would take too long. I see the results in my kids at home. They literally jump from one toy/game to the next. When bored with the current activity, they simply leave it and tear into another game. I've taken to locking up all their toys and games (fortunately I have a closet large enough for this), and they must return one toy/game before they can check out another. And it must be put together correctly, not just stuffed any old which way into a box or bag. Well, you couldn't believe the backlash I've gotten from this routine. They hate it! They don't want to clean up after themselves, mainly because school never taught them that that's part of playing--putting things away when they're through. I recently went through the whole house, including their rooms, picking up, sorting and organizing their stuff. They're told to spend 10-15 minutes each night putting things away. After they go to bed, I go through the house with a trash bag. If I have to pick it up off the floor, I figure it wasn't very important to them and it goes into the trash. I've had this policy for about 3 weeks now, and strange -- I'm actually not finding pieces of toys all over the house. Wonder why?

Well, perhaps they won't be inclined to throw away money if they're taught to pick up after themselves. BTW, our school had a lunch card system so the kids don't have to carry money.

Are you in NH? maybe your kids go to my DD's school1 Sounds like it a lot from your post!

 

[Littlemotherhaywood]

Many years ago I worked at McDonald's.
It was a very well run local store whose owner kept a close eye on things, by the way.

We were trained that when we received a bill it was laid across the change drawer and not put in to the bin until the change had been given.

Kids today often don't know how to make change.

And the poster who is having trouble with Sonic may not realize that it is customary to tip the server there. That may be why they are having trouble with the server not giving back small amounts of change without being asked.

Whether it's customary or not, it's still the OP choice to tip. I hate when servers (and I've served so I know what a tough job it is) make assumptions like that. Plus, wasn't it a drive through? It's not like they were at a table. I save my money for the honest people who provide good service and we usually tip a minimum of 20% where ever we go.

 

[patsal]

I am shocked, but really not surprised, at the various posts from teachers complaining that kids leave money on the cafeteria tables, along with their trash, or, worse still, just throw away the change with their trays. I expect some flames here (but hey? I just got a good deal on a flame-proof suit, and got the correct change ), but I think part of the reason kids in school don't pick up after themselves is that they're not taught to do so. No,I don't mean the parents don't teach them at home, I mean, its what they're allowed to get away with at school.

My kids are currently in elementary (public) school. It seems that, at least in our school, the school is more concerned with making it an ongoing party rather than getting down to basics (which, BTW, I take responsibility for by teaching reading, math, etc at home). Seems just about every other week there's some sort of special doings, field trips, parties, stage shows, special guest entertainers, etc., etc., Even a "normal" day is more of a carnival atmosphere than a work environment (yes, I do believe that school is my kids' job, just like dh and I have jobs). They spend so little time on the core subjects, such as reading, writing, math, etc. They're forever in "enrichment" classes--music, art, gym, etc. They're in the hall half the time, going from place to place. And when they get there, everything is all set up for them to tear in to. The class periods are only 45 minutes long, so they can't spend much time in prep work, and heaven forbid they should have to actually put things away. There simply isn't time for prep and cleanup. They have been conditioned to thinking that they're somehow entitled to being "entertained" every minute, with all the prep work done, then, when through, they just flit off to another activity without cleaning up the mess from the current activity. Oh, yes, they are responsible for some things, like putting their backpacks away, etc., but they aren't responsible for the entire cleanup, it would take too long. I see the results in my kids at home. They literally jump from one toy/game to the next. When bored with the current activity, they simply leave it and tear into another game. I've taken to locking up all their toys and games (fortunately I have a closet large enough for this), and they must return one toy/game before they can check out another. And it must be put together correctly, not just stuffed any old which way into a box or bag. Well, you couldn't believe the backlash I've gotten from this routine. They hate it! They don't want to clean up after themselves, mainly because school never taught them that that's part of playing--putting things away when they're through. I recently went through the whole house, including their rooms, picking up, sorting and organizing their stuff. They're told to spend 10-15 minutes each night putting things away. After they go to bed, I go through the house with a trash bag. If I have to pick it up off the floor, I figure it wasn't very important to them and it goes into the trash. I've had this policy for about 3 weeks now, and strange -- I'm actually not finding pieces of toys all over the house. Wonder why?

Well, perhaps they won't be inclined to throw away money if they're taught to pick up after themselves. BTW, our school had a lunch card system so the kids don't have to carry money.

Call the kids, especially those in high school on the things that they do and you will hear from the parents. "It is his lunch, you shouldn't even be talking to him let alone telling him to clean up after himself" "I really don't care, he/she is yours for the time in school, if you can't handle them it is your problem" " I know he is a pain, have a good day" I'm glad you take your parenting seriously, but in schools with thousands of kids, you are an exception. I'm sure if I called you you'd be the one that is gwnuinely mortified and your child would have a consequence. As for moving from one thing to another we only have so much time to get things covered. It would be nice to block one time per week for the extras, but many are state mandated and you have to follow that.

 

[gr8ful4Him]

I am appalled that people think to blame teachers for so many things. I can tell you, what I teach is based on the curriculum and textbook I am given in the beginning of the year, that I see my students for 40 minutes a day, the other 23 hours and 20 minutes I have no control over, and I certainly tell students every single day to pick up trash and various other things I consider to be important.

I certainly think that parents have an impact. If students leave garbage behind at school, I doubt they're cleaning up after themselves at the local McDonald's. My parents taught me to clean up after myself. If I've truly absorbed that value, I will be that way everywhere.

In addition, every day I see parents sticking up for their kids in the office- saying that "Little Johnny" couldn't have done that. In many cases, I've seen them say it or do it with my own two eyes. I wish they'd wake up and see that they are just enabling their misbehavior.

Despite the fact that I think parents have a great deal of responsibility to teach their children the value of money, kindness, etc. I also am committed to teaching the same things. We should be working together, not seeking to blame someone. I spend a great deal of time on this. Teaching used to be the most well respected profession and in many other countries, still is. I cannot understand how some would not still feel that way. Maybe students are just not being taught to regard their teachers as sensei- honorable helpers on their path.

Off to teach.

Thank you for being a teacher and taking the time to try to mold your students into responsible individuals!
I totally agree with you on this post! I am not a teacher, but a bus driver. I haven't had much problem on my bus, but I know other drivers that have had continuous problems and their parents are always sticking up for them...enabling them to continue to act in a rude, disrespectful manner, even being more "snotty" because they KNOW mom/dad will stick up for them. Thankfully, "Big Brother" watches everything that happens on my bus!

As far as the poster whose son doesn't know how to spell his first name (that he doesn't use), why haven't YOU taught him that before now? ...Maybe homeschooling isn't quite for you My dd is turning 4 next month but has known how to spell her name and write it for over 1/2 a year now!

Back to the original topic...I've never had someone expect that I was just leaving my change behind. How would I save up for vacation if I left all that behind??? lol

 

[Chicago526]

Wow! Who knew change could be such a hot topic!

I have to say, I don't seem to have the problems that a lot of posters have here. I always count my change while I'm still standing in front of the cashier (or sitting in my car at the drive through) and have never noticed incorrect change.

However, twice I've paid by debit and asked for $20 back, only to have the cashier forget to give my the money. Once at Target, once at Jewel (local grocery store). Target gave me TONS of attitude, said they wouldn't count down the drawer until the end of the night and "if they determined the cashier made an error" would give me my money back, meaning I had to drive 30 minutes one way to pick it up (I was visiting a friend and stoped by a Target near her instead of going to my local one). However, the Jewel customer service was very nice, counted down the drawer right away, gave me my $20 and a huge apology!

As a side note, I do tip in change jars at locations that I go to frequently. I get to know the workers behind the counters, they know me and I know them, and I'm happy to give them the .23 cents in change from my latte since I always get good service. Sure, they make $6 or $8 an hour and are "just doing their job" but in an age where customer service is hit and miss (mostly miss), I like to reward a job well done!

 

[Raevyn_Wolfe]

Our Papa Johns charges a delivery charge. You would not know it unless you ordered online. That is kind of scary! Once I saw that, I changed what I gave the driver because I always considered that in my tip. I am sure alot of people around do not know that they are charging an extra $1.50 to deliver.

Ok, so are you saying that you now take 1.50 out of your total and then tip 15% off the new total?
Or are you saying that if you were going to tip $2.00 you now only tip .50?

Just curious, cause like I said in an earlier post . . .I hate that my pizza store charges a delivery fee because we (the drivers) DON'T get it.
But most people that order from our store know it's there (our CSR's are told to mention it) and so people assume we get it and thus either don't tip at all because of it, or tip much less than they would have.
Which is sad, I don't completely blame the customer, I mean, how are they to know?
It's mainly the company's I am mad at, why charge it if you're NOT going to give it to the driver? The food you are sending the customer is not any different than if they pick it up. . . . so why the "convenience fee"?
I mean, drivers get paid a smaller hourly wage in than anyone in the store . . . since it is assumed they are going to get tips. So the "delivery fee" just makes no sense.

 

[Carrie Ellis]

Raevyn_Wolfe, how do you get paid? I am just wondering so I will know what to do. Do you get mileage? Do pizza delivery people get paid minimum wage or more or do they work at a lower wage plus tips? I really would like to know because I want to be fair. Is the $1.50 the company's charge to make up for the mileage that they pay the delivery person? I tip on the amount usually 15% or I just go pick it up myself. It does get to the point that I just quit ordering out at all.

 

[VintageKnight]

what im saying is that at least at my store, tips are hard to come by as it is. my girls are suprised when someone actually takes the time to give them more than just a round up to the nearest dollar, rarely do they get a quarter or more

You guys are thinkin big city, in LA you can make 9 dollars to start at mcdonalds, oklahoma, we barely ever start over 5.50 anywhere. cost of living is deffinatly different here.

I'm going to quit responding now since some of your responces have simply been closed minded and idiotic.

have a great day.

chris

 

[NotSoMini]

I had the same experience as RobinB - my elderly father paid for our lunch (just the two of us) with a $50 bill - our lunch came to about $20 - the waiter asked if Dad wanted his change back... Dad (like RobinB's stepfather), hesitated, then I practically yelled "Of course he wants his change back!"

This sort of thing has happened to my family in the past, but never for such a flagrantly huge amount - and I can't imagine the gall of someone doing that to an elderly person.

I have since made it my mission in life NOT to leave a tip - not even a penny - in such instances....and I frankly don't give a darn if the waiter or waitress gets in a flap. I always tip, otherwise.

Also, I am absolutely appalled at the number of people who don't seem to be able to make change!

 

[Sue Sullivan]

Do drive thru workers employees now make less than minimum wage? I always thought tipping wait staff at resturants was because they make like $2 and hour. If they are making at least minimumw age it never occured to me to tip them, and I doubt I ever will. I don't tip the cashier at Winn Dixie for ringing up my order either.