Has anyone else had enough of this Paula Dean buisness?

[Tomader]

A lesson that should be learned here is deny. deny. deny. Forget the truth people don't want to here it. She would have been much better off had she just lied and said she never used the n word. Again, such a hypocritical world we live in!

 

[frndshpcptn]

QVC has now suspended their relationship with Paula Deen.

 

[Nancyg56]

A lesson that should be learned here is deny. deny. deny. Forget the truth people don't want to here it. She would have been much better off had she just lied and said she never used the n word. Again, such a hypocritical world we live in!

Her use of the word was actually the very least of her problems. If she used the word years ago, admitted that she used it, told people she understood the implications and has not been using it, it would be done. But that is not the issue. She has managed to make a disturbing situation even worse ever time she opens her mouth. Honestly, for a woman in business, she really needed to hire an HR person who understood labor law, and then listened to that person. That is why she is in trouble. Even if she did not know how to create a safe and equatable work place, a good business manager who was working with someone who was versed in Human Relations could had ensured she did not fall into this mess. This was neglect of her own businesses.

 

[manning]

I know that it had something to do with Orange/Protestant; Green/Catholic. Now I am just speculating because my Dad never gave reasons, but I think it had a lot to do with the persecution in Ireland of the Irish Catholics by the English. It was definitely a statement back when I was a kid, and one my Dad did not like.

True story...my first husband was Polish and French. His sister was.....let's say vocal......about her disdain if my Irish heritage and the fact that my children were taught to embrace their Irish background. She would loudly wear her Orange, not caring that she was disrespecting people. Well, year and years and many anti Irish comments later, she married an card carrying ( I kid you not, he has a card) Irish fellow, and has more shamrocks floating around than I do
My personal smile was when they played bagpipes at the wedding

Confusing, isn't it.

 

[glammadiva]

This is true. I took a diversity class and found that most Americans do not know a thing about this disgraceful time in our history. The majority of the class also had no idea about the treatment of Japanese Americans during WWII. AS I said earlier, if one takes the time to study our history, perhaps how we tolerate certain words, phrases, and jokes might be different.

Well said!! Most ethnic groups, no matter what color, had terms used against them that are that group's "n" word. These words are used in the entertainment industry and on the street as jokes, because the users do not know the history of the word. And if its true about Paula having separate entrances for her black employees, then she needs to to lose all endorsements. That is a conscious effort and not some slip of the tongue!

 

[perdidobay]

Sorry if this has already been posted, but I thought this was a well written article.

http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2013/06/confession_of_a_black_journali.html#incart_2box

 

[mmouse37]

I agree that the main issue at present is NOT what happened 30 years ago. The main issue is the more recent events that lead directly to the lawsuit. I'm sure it will all go away in time- the general public doesn't usually have a very long attention span (SQUIRREL).

However, she will be taking an enormous financial hit for the forseeable future. Reputation in shreds. Kicked off the Food Network. Looks like the Shopping Network is saying bye bye as well. I'm sure her cookbook and merchandise sales will go in the dumper.
Does she deserve this, on top of probably losing the lawsuit?? Opinion appears to be divided. And I find it troubling that it is.

Her cookbook sales have skyrocketed since this trouble started. Just read that the presales for her new cookbook coming out in October are through the roof in support of her.

Didn't read the whole thread yet so if this was posted already sorry!

MJ

 

[pocomom]

still, as much as I beleive Paula Deen to be a racist/bigot and suprisingly ignorant for a woman in her position, and her brother to be purely reprehensible and having a lack of sympathy for either of them.... the lawsuit itself seems to be largely without merit.. what do you think? is it just an attempt to get money out of a big star?

 

[tinatark]

Article about the trial and testimony - won't be reported in the mainstream media since it doesn't further their witch hunt.

http://savannahnow.com/news/2013-06...aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

 

[pigletgirl]

Article about the trial and testimony - won't be reported in the mainstream media since it doesn't further their witch hunt.

http://savannahnow.com/news/2013-06-22/paula-deen-and-n-word?fb_action_ids=10151539907094001&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_ref=.UctzjCSI1lJ.like&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

Why hasn't this woman come forward?

 

[BlovesC]

Article about the trial and testimony - won't be reported in the mainstream media since it doesn't further their witch hunt.

This was already posted. And all the article does is highlight select passages from the testimonies, which have been fully available through the 'mainstream media' all week.

Her cookbook sales have skyrocketed since this trouble started. Just read that the presales for her new cookbook coming out in October are through the roof in support of her.

She definitely has a lot of supporters, if FB and the DIS are any indication, it makes sense that they'd show that support by buying her items. I kind of anticipate there to be a BIG boom for PD-branded items for a short while, but eventually this mess will die down and when she's no longer a public figure, I'm sure even her most ardent fans will move on.

 

[pigletgirl]

This was already posted. And all the article does is highlight select passages from the testimonies, which have been fully available through the 'mainstream media' all week.

She definitely has a lot of supporters, if FB and the DIS are any indication, it makes sense that they'd show that support by buying her items. I kind of anticipate there to be a BIG boom for PD-branded items for a short while, but eventually this mess will die down and when she's no longer a public figure, I'm sure even her most ardent fans will move on.

Her supporters will be behind her for awhile. She's had quite the following for 10 years+. I don't expect her fans to just run from her completely.

 

[BlovesC]

Her supporters will be behind her for awhile. She's had quite the following for 10 years+. I don't expect her fans to just run from her completely.

I understand your point, but when a public figure is no longer public or giving their fans new content to invest themselves in, they eventually lose interest.

 

[pigletgirl]

I understand your point, but when a public figure is no longer public or giving their fans new content to invest themselves in, they eventually lose interest.

Very true.

 

[BlovesC]

Very true.

Kind of like Lady Gaga...she used to be all over internet media, then she got injured, cancelled her tour, and now it's "Gaga who?"

 

[mhsjax]

Well, obviously it's hard to keep up the outrage at the abuse of poor Paula if the people at whom you want to be angry have moved on and are no longer thinking and talking about the issue that you want to be angry about everybody thinking and talking about! How is that not logical?



I always find it amazing how people who swear by free markets and unfettered capitalism are upset when it doesn't work out the way they want it to...



I'm sorry, that is patently false. The "n" word was certainly a slur in the 1960s and 1970s, it was just apparently acceptable to use racial slurs where you grew up.

Last time I checked, there are PLENTY of things that go on in EVERY neighborhood and social class that are totally unacceptable.

 

[mhsjax]

I see. So the only discrimination that can happen is against black people. The hell with all others. Got it.

And there ya go. YOu hit it, SPOT ON.

 

[mhsjax]

Haha, see, that is funny. I just think people need to be able to laugh at stereotypes about their race, religion, nationality, ect and not take them so personal or themselves so seriously.

Im a Dago Polack myself and can laugh at stuff like the Jersey Shore. I dont care if someone makes a dumb Pollack joke. I dont care if Dave Chappelle does a satirical bit on white people. I dont care when men are portrayed as dumb oafs in television shows. I grew up Catholic and Im all for any Catholic joke you have. I just dont take entertainment or comedy or satire so seriously. I have not once, in my entire life, heard a joke or some word and got offended. Not ever.

There is a big difference between something done in humor or satire and something done out of hate. If more people would just laugh at the caricatures of themselves and the people who are living representatives of those caricatures theyd spend much less time angry. It has to be exhausting trying to find a way for everything to be offensive.

Just my opinion of course.

Yep, this is no different that Paula's remark about the black guy blending in with the black back drop. I guess maybe being irish, and pale, I should go look for someone to sue.

But seriously, I am not offended. I get it and I laugh at it. I even joke about how I got ripped off, I am Irish and I can't hold my liquor for anything.

 

[mhsjax]

I understand your point, but when a public figure is no longer public or giving their fans new content to invest themselves in, they eventually lose interest.

Not really. I loved her back when she had on little show on Food TV and I love her still, always will. Some of us really just like her recipes and like her. I don't even watch her on TV haven't for years, yet I still love her

 

[FlightlessDuck]

And there ya go. YOu hit it, SPOT ON.

You apparently didn't understand what I was saying, either.