Has anyone else had enough of this Paula Dean buisness?

This just shows how much people love gossip and scandals. There is a spy that the US can't seem to catch, the economy is still shaky and the courts are making all kinds of important decisions yet the news goes on and on about Paula Deen.
 
I'm not tired of it yet. I watched the Today Show interview and I actually think Matt did fine. Not too tough at all. She came across (to me) as ignorant, clueless and out of touch. When Matt brought up the comment she made about stereotypical jokes - that most jokes were about Jewish people, black people, etc - and she said she couldn't tell what people found offensive or not in that regard I thought - seriously?? You really can't think it out that some people might find jokes about their religion or race offensive?

I'm sure her fans will continue to support her. Personally, I'm ok with the fact that she had been dropped by Food Network, Wal Mart, Caesars and Smithfield. She's a public figure and she is her brand and therefore what she says reflects on the people who do business with her.

I agree with this. I think the biggest reason why she was dropped buy FN, Smithfield, Walmart and Home Depot is because of how she handled everything and not really what she did. First she posts the lame excuse video, then backs out of the Today interview, then posts another awful video. She made a mockery of owning up to what she has done.

The worst part of the interview this morning is when she said "I is what I is"

MSNBC has a pretty good article about why this mornings interview was a fail

http://www.today.com/entertainment/...ogy-failed-was-bizarre-experts-say-6C10452611
 
God yes but mostly because it is a symptom of a much bigger disease...what we consider "news".

The lady is hateable and has been for a long time but it isn't really worth anything more than a quick mention on the way to some actual news. I care about as much about Paula Dean as I do about who Tiger Woods sleeps with or what the weather is on some yet-undiscovered planet 20 solar systems away. I'll let you infer how much that is.

Exactly. Sometimes I wish we could go back to the way it was 30 years ago. You had your evening news and called it a day. This constant cycle of the same news over and over gets real old. I think someone said in the other thread (maybe different topic) that people are sheeple. And they're right. The news tells us which news stories they are going to whip us into a frenzy about this week. And we go along with it and forget about the IRS scandal, the war in Iraq etc etc etc
 

Ridiculous. Tell me anyone over the age of 50 who hasn't said the n word.
Really?


Let the poor woman alone.

I've only heard the word said by a couple of people, and I live in the south. I think it's shocking that there are people who think everyone over 50 has said this word. Seriously?? I don't know where some people live to hear this from everyone over 50. That's horrible.

As for Paula, she'll get over it. I am kind of sick of hearing about it, but if she had shown true remorse, I don't think things would have turned out so badly. I think she is racist, but I did feel sorry for her watching her cry on TV.
 
1. Why did you bring it up?
2. Don't you have a newer argument than "she's old", "that one time she said the N word was 30 years ago", and "everyone over the age of __ (65, 50...) has said it"?
 
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IMO, it isn't that she used the word at some point in her past but that she has no remorse now for doing so. It's an offensive word and always has been.

You know...I grew up in the 60's-70's. The N word was used all the time...all the time. Yes, it's offensive and always has been, but not like it is now. Have I used it in my life? Yes. It was a word that was used across the boards in our country at the time. Am I remorseful that I used it? No. It wasn't the word it is now. I would NEVER use it now...knowing what I know.

In this day and age I find the word disturbing, but I also find it disturbing that certain segments of the population still use it and it is acceptable for them. I detest the over the top political correctness in this country If that is partly why Paula Deen is being crucified in the media, then I think this has been blown out of proportion. It seems as though no one is hearing the rest of the story. That is where her behavior and attitudes become disturbing.

Enough is enough...
 
I'm only tired of the "oh poor Paula!" posts from people who have paid zero attention to the actual case, and yet rant and rave on here and on FB like the woman is being publicly flogged.

This is, essentially, all that has happened:

1)Court testimonies from celebrity's own mouth reveal numerous examples of racism and bigotry
2)General public says "woah, that's really not cool."
3)Corporations nix association with said celebrity to avoid fallback

This is all about business. No one is burning the woman at the stake. I'm sure many of Paula's fans don't care she's a bigot, but the rest of the nation does, and thus as a celebrity product with her 'likability' tarnished, she is no longer a good investment. She's already earned many, many millions of dollars. She'll be just fine, I assure you.

The numerous excuses for hate-speak that have been posted on these threads make me seriously question the example you're all setting for your children, since apparently, two wrongs do make a right now.

Also, apparently I need to go visit my father and grandmother and bow at their feet, because although they're each over 60, they've never used racial slurs in my presence or taught me to tolerate hatred. I never knew that such guidance was as rare as a unicorn.
 
I am sorry "they" are nailing her to the cross. I live in central GA. and do not believe she's racist. The media will pick on one person then next day someone else. We are not talking just about her reputation but looots of jobs for people under her employment. Next the media may attack you (esp) if you are famous and see how you like it!:stir:
 
And Smithfield Pork products dropped as their spokeperson. As well as the Food Network dropping her shows.

Just today, 4 restaurants in Las Vegas will be renamed without her name.

However, she made $17 million last year. Even if she loses all her endorsements, if her remaining restaurants survive, she will still make $7 million this year.

Link;
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/paula-deens-words-cost-empire/story?id=19484749

She can buy a nice, private southern plantation to retire at.

I didn't know she had restaurants in Las Vegas.
 
You know...I grew up in the 60's-70's. The N word was used all the time...all the time. Yes, it's offensive and always has been, but not like it is now. Have I used it in my life? Yes. It was a word that was used across the boards in our country at the time. Am I remorseful that I used it? No. It wasn't the word it is now. I would NEVER use it now...knowing what I know.

In this day and age I find the word disturbing, but I also find it disturbing that certain segments of the population still use it and it is acceptable for them. I detest the over the top political correctness in this country If that is partly why Paula Deen is being crucified in the media, then I think this has been blown out of proportion. It seems as though no one is hearing the rest of the story. That is where her behavior and attitudes become disturbing.

Enough is enough...


Sorry, but we're about the same age and it wasn't a word I ever heard growing up from other kids or the adults I was around. I guess it just comes down to the values one is raised with. Of course I knew of the word and knew it was meant to belittle a person.
 
1. Why did you bring it up?
2. Don't you have a newer argument than "she's old", "that one time she said the N word was 30 years ago", and "everyone over the age of __ (65, 50...) has said it"?

Well, obviously it's hard to keep up the outrage at the abuse of poor Paula if the people at whom you want to be angry have moved on and are no longer thinking and talking about the issue that you want to be angry about everybody thinking and talking about! How is that not logical? ;)

I'm only tired of the "oh poor Paula!" posts from people who have paid zero attention to the actual case, and yet rant and rave on here and on FB like the woman is being publicly flogged.

This is, essentially, all that has happened:

1)Court testimonies from celebrity's own mouth reveal numerous examples of racism and bigotry
2)General public says "woah, that's really not cool."
3)Corporations nix association with said celebrity to avoid fallback

This is all about business. No one is burning the woman at the stake. I'm sure many of Paula's fans don't care she's a bigot, but the rest of the nation does, and thus as a celebrity product with her 'likability' tarnished, she is no longer a good investment. She's already earned many, many millions of dollars. She'll be just fine, I assure you.

The numerous excuses for hate-speak that have been posted on these threads make me seriously question the example you're all setting for your children, since apparently, two wrongs do make a right now.

Also, apparently I need to go visit my father and grandmother and bow at their feet, because although they're each over 60, they've never used racial slurs in my presence or taught me to tolerate hatred. I never knew that such guidance was as rare as a unicorn.

I always find it amazing how people who swear by free markets and unfettered capitalism are upset when it doesn't work out the way they want it to...

You know...I grew up in the 60's-70's. The N word was used all the time...all the time. Yes, it's offensive and always has been, but not like it is now. Have I used it in my life? Yes. It was a word that was used across the boards in our country at the time. Am I remorseful that I used it? No. It wasn't the word it is now. I would NEVER use it now...knowing what I know.

In this day and age I find the word disturbing, but I also find it disturbing that certain segments of the population still use it and it is acceptable for them. I detest the over the top political correctness in this country If that is partly why Paula Deen is being crucified in the media, then I think this has been blown out of proportion. It seems as though no one is hearing the rest of the story. That is where her behavior and attitudes become disturbing.

Enough is enough...

I'm sorry, that is patently false. The "n" word was certainly a slur in the 1960s and 1970s, it was just apparently acceptable to use racial slurs where you grew up.
 
I think everyone who has been clicking like on all these "I support Paula" Facebook pages ought to take a look at the complete deposition, the complaint, the interview from 2010 where she talked about not being able to see a black man standing in front of a black board, and her autobiography where she admitted to having an affair with a married man for 10 years. I couldn't "support" someone like that.

People who do not want to let facts get in the way of their opinion will not blink at these thing. They focus on the word, say it was a long time ago, and then vilify anyone who wants to hold her accountable for her actions.

But really, people, is this public enemy #1? All of you who find her reprehensible have never, ever said anything inappropriate? Never laughed at a questionable joke or social media post? Is she perfect? Nope. Neither are any of us. Could we withstand the scrutiny she currently is undergoing? What will make her judge and jury happy? Pushing her to suicide?

There is a vast difference between looking into your past and acknowledging that you have words and actions that you wish you could change, and having a history of bigotry and racism, not only in your private life, but within the companies that bear your name. Maybe this is not the hill you die on, but do you have a hill? If someone who was in business and made money based on your purchasing power crossed that line, would you be complaisant? Would you resent it if other folks told you to stop being so sensitive and get over it?



Ridiculous. Tell me anyone over the age of 50 who hasn't said the n word.
Really?

Me. As a child, I never heard my parents use that word. I never used it as a teen, as an adult and still have not used it. It is not a bad word. It is a foul word used to degrade a human being. There were words my Dad, who never laid a hand on me, would have clapped me on the mouth if he ever heard I used. The N word is one, and since I am Irish, he had another that he found to be particularly offensive.

Whenever a word is used to dehumanize a person, there is no way to rationalize that it is just a word.

When Matt brought up the comment she made about stereotypical jokes - that most jokes were about Jewish people, black people, etc - and she said she couldn't tell what people found offensive or not in that regard I thought - seriously?? You really can't think it out that some people might find jokes about their religion or race offensive?

I'm sure her fans will continue to support her. Personally, I'm ok with the fact that she had been dropped by Food Network, Wal Mart, Caesars and Smithfield. She's a public figure and she is her brand and therefore what she says reflects on the people who do business with her.

There are people who are so closed off from words and what they mean that they do not understand how those words and jokes affect others. My first husband's sister used a slur she heard very often in her home when she was just chatting with her employer. She was shocked when he told her that saying she "got jewed" at the market was not acceptable. She was so used to hearing that term and then saying it, that she honestly thought it was simply a phrase, and was even more upset that this confession was even more offensive to him than the phrase itself. :sad2:
I do not think that being oblivious is an excuse, I just do not.

I'm only tired of the "oh poor Paula!" posts from people who have paid zero attention to the actual case, and yet rant and rave on here and on FB like the woman is being publicly flogged.

This is, essentially, all that has happened:

1)Court testimonies from celebrity's own mouth reveal numerous examples of racism and bigotry
2)General public says "woah, that's really not cool."
3)Corporations nix association with said celebrity to avoid fallback

This is all about business. No one is burning the woman at the stake. I'm sure many of Paula's fans don't care she's a bigot, but the rest of the nation does, and thus as a celebrity product with her 'likability' tarnished, she is no longer a good investment. She's already earned many, many millions of dollars. She'll be just fine, I assure you.

The numerous excuses for hate-speak that have been posted on these threads make me seriously question the example you're all setting for your children, since apparently, two wrongs do make a right now.

Also, apparently I need to go visit my father and grandmother and bow at their feet, because although they're each over 60, they've never used racial slurs in my presence or taught me to tolerate hatred. I never knew that such guidance was as rare as a unicorn.

It was not rare, my own parents practiced this. I also belive that employers are responsible for the ethical behavior in their companies. In this case she was not, she needs to be held accountable. Her employers...sponsors, etc, are responsible for how they react and they are taking this very seriously.

I'm sorry, that is patently false. The "n" word was certainly a slur in the 1960s and 1970s, it was just apparently acceptable to use racial slurs where you grew up.

It was not acceptable. It never was. People did use these slurs, but they did so in order to set a racial divide. Not everyone did this.
 
I wouldn't consider 66 to be middle age.

But its not really "old" either. When I think of people being of an age where they might still think of this word as ok to use, I think of like 80's and 90's. And even then they wouldn't be TV personalities.
 
So an older lady from an older generation said the N word 30 years ago? And this means she loses her job? Her life is in shambles?

I completely and TOTALLY agree.
This is just unbelievable.
The outright HATRED and REVERSE RACISM here is just disgusting.

It is clear on which side of this all of the hatred and racism is coming from.
 
She hasn't really been on my radar beforehand. I've rarely watched her show. The foods she makes are generally not things we'd make at home. I don't own any of her products. My DD did ask about eating at her restaurant when we were near Savannah recently though.
 
Personally I have never been a big fan of Paula but I think what has happened to her is very wrong. Will they be happy when the women has a nervous breakdown or worse???? Many people say hurtful things everyday. Kids get away with bullying. Try working for real jerks in the workforce. How about being on hold with Spirit airlines for 56 minutes trying to cancel your 9.00 membership and being transferred 4 times to finally get a non-English speaking rep who could careless how long you waited. The company still remains in business. Al Sharpton,Jessie Jackson?? They go around the country stirring the pot but know one attacks and shuts them down. Every move in this country is hypocritical." Do as I say not as I do." Enough is enough!! She didn't kill anyone, go full speed after them!!!
 
I feel really bad for Paula and don't like to see her suffer at all. She seems like a genuinely sweet lady. However, like others have said, this case goes far beyond the N-word (look into the case) and she is quite unrepentant and that is why people are turning away from her.
 












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