Harry Potter movie SPOILERS

finally saw the movie!!! was a little long for me but the hubby and son LOVED it!
 
We saw it last week in the theater and when it was over it just felt empty- I didn't like everything they changed and left out. So- I figure I will give it another shot and we picked it up on bootleg but after watching it last night again at home I still didn't like it!
BTW- to the precious poster- Hangover was a stupid movie-I borrowed that one from a friend!
 
BTW- to the precious poster- Hangover was a stupid movie-I borrowed that one from a friend!
I loved Hangover. I thought it was the funniest movie I have seen in a long time. It is adult humor and so won't appeal to everyone. But I was almost rolling on the floor with laughter. I have not laughed that hard at a movie in a long time.
 
I went again to Harry Potter, and I have to say that I was more impressed the first time around. I guess it was because I was more focused on picking out the differences from the movie to the book, the second time around.
 

I liked it a lot better the second time I saw it too. Ron's scenes alone were worth watching twice; he was hilarious!
 
Not about the movie, but am I the only one who wished that Snape was Harry's real father? Imagine the possibilities.
 
First off, I know I haven't posted here in a while, so many of you may not know me, or for those who have been around for a while, remember me, but I saw this thread and had to throw out my .02 worth.

I didn't read all 16 pages, so forgive me if these have been covered before, but I had to air them out.

Things I didn't like about the movie:

1) I did not like the opening sequence; I would have much preferred the opening sequence in the book. I was really looking forward to the scene with the Durlsey's. To me, that scene, while it would have been funny to watch, starts to wrap up that part of Harry's life by Dumbledore asking that the Dursley's allow Harry to come back for one more summer. I was also a bit bothered with Harry reading a newspaper about the magical world in full view of other muggles. Isn't that a breach of the wizarding secrecy? Especially since that muggle waitress saw one of the pictures move.

2) There needed to be more of the lessons Harry took from Dumbledore. By not having these extra lessons, and subsequent memories, we don't get the set up of what Tom was really looking for. Sure, Dumbledore glosses over it when he shows Harry the journal and ring, but that's it. To me that's not enough.

3) The Weasley's house burning during the Christmas break; didn't happen in the book and I thought it shouldn't have happened here. I don't see the reasoning behind the need to burn the Weasley's house down.

4) I didn’t like how they ended the movie; I really wanted to see the funeral of Dumbledore.

5) There was supposed to be a bigger battle at the school, and I would have liked to have seen it.

6) There were some other minor things that were different that didn’t bother me as much, but could be fun pointing out.

Well, that's my opinion on the movie. I'm going to try and see it again this weekend. I know I've missed some things, and will hopefully catch those things a second time around. Well, thanks for letting me post.

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Ok, I'm jumping in here, a week late. I too, finished the book for the second time the day before the movie came out. BIG MISTAKE! I will NOT do that with book 7, I am going to reread it now.

I could not believe they cut out the battle at the end. And I was also not pleased that they left out most of the relationship with Tonks and Lupin.

I also really did not like the burrows scene, I thought it was completely unnecessary! There was a lot more stuff they could have left in, had they not added that.

I thought giving us the info with the vanishing cabinets right away was a little odd, but didn't bother me that much. I did not like however, that Harry was not put under a spell by Dumbledore at the end. I don't buy that no matter what Dumbledore told him, that he would just stand there and watch.

I also really missed having Dobby/Kreature, Bill/Fleur and the Dursleys. I think they are all important to the final movie even if they didn't play all that much in this book.

Overall I loved the movie, I love them all, but I always pick them apart. As long as I can watch Rupert Grint, I am happy, he is so darn funny and adorable!!! And Snape, Alan Rickman is wonderful!

Also have not read all 16 pages here, but finally got back to the computer after seeing the movie last weekend!


As with many of you, I too have read and re-read the books and am irritated with some of the changes for the movie, including:

1. Opening sequence in a diner (!) with a flirty waitress. WHAT was THAT?? All the other books and movies have opened with Harry at the Dursley's in Little Winging, and in this movie in particular, Dumbledore's visit is crucial, because he tells Aunt Petunia and Uncle Vernon why is it so important that Harry return to Privet Drive next summer.

2. WHY burn down the Burrow? Where are Bill and Fleur going to get married now??

3. Harry should have been petrified and under the Invisibility Cloak for the Dumbledore death scene in the Astronomy Tower. I can't believe that Harry would just stand there and do nothing when Dumbledore's life is in danger.

4. One of the BEST lines in the movie was cut out - when Harry and Dumbledore are in the cave and he turns to Harry and says, "I'm not afraid, Harry. I'm with you" Come on, Steve Kloves - that took all of 3 seconds - couldn't you leave that in?

5. Some background on Tom Riddle/Voldemort's maternal family would have been good, especially to explain the horcruxes.

6. More emphasis on the Half-Blood Prince. It was almost an afterthought that Snape says it to Harry at the end. They should have at least discussed Eileen Prince and what her relationship was to Snape (his mother).

7. I thought Slughorn was good. Ron was also great when he was under the love potion. And Malfoy was superb - he really showed his conflict and his terror over what he was supposed to do.

But all in all, I really enjoyed it and can't wait to see the last 2 movies! I guess we just have to keep in mind what JK Rowling said, that the books and the movies are 2 completely different media, and they have to be recognized differently.


I also haven't read all the pages. I went today with DD and her bff. I do agree with all of the above! Especially with the Burrow burning..WTH!! :confused3 Not sure what the point is.

I can sort of understand Fluer and Bill, since I have heard there will be no wedding in the next movie. I don't understand why they didn't open with the Dursley's but the diner instead. Unless there is some sort of correlation with the next 2 movies, then I am shocked that JK allowed it.

I am wondering if the DVD's will have some answers as to why they did what they did??

DD13 loved the movie, but hasn't read all the books yet. I liked it, but was of course disappointed with more of the additions that made no sense. I can understand taking out..but adding new crud in... Nope.
 
Not about the movie, but am I the only one who wished that Snape was Harry's real father? Imagine the possibilities.

Then the question would be whether or not Harry would still hate him until the bitter end....
 
ah but then that would mean that Harry's mother cheated on his father and JK would never write that in a book that was targeted to children.

not something you want to get angry parent emails/calls and yes threats - she received plenty from groups in the states because the book was about magic
 
Originally Posted by CapeCodTenor
First off, I know I haven't posted here in a while, so many of you may not know me, or for those who have been around for a while, remember me, but I saw this thread and had to throw out my .02 worth.

I didn't read all 16 pages, so forgive me if these have been covered before, but I had to air them out.

Things I didn't like about the movie:

1) I did not like the opening sequence; I would have much preferred the opening sequence in the book. I was really looking forward to the scene with the Durlsey's. To me, that scene, while it would have been funny to watch, starts to wrap up that part of Harry's life by Dumbledore asking that the Dursley's allow Harry to come back for one more summer. I was also a bit bothered with Harry reading a newspaper about the magical world in full view of other muggles. Isn't that a breach of the wizarding secrecy? Especially since that muggle waitress saw one of the pictures move.

2) There needed to be more of the lessons Harry took from Dumbledore. By not having these extra lessons, and subsequent memories, we don't get the set up of what Tom was really looking for. Sure, Dumbledore glosses over it when he shows Harry the journal and ring, but that's it. To me that's not enough.

3) The Weasley's house burning during the Christmas break; didn't happen in the book and I thought it shouldn't have happened here. I don't see the reasoning behind the need to burn the Weasley's house down.

4) I didn’t like how they ended the movie; I really wanted to see the funeral of Dumbledore.

5) There was supposed to be a bigger battle at the school, and I would have liked to have seen it.

6) There were some other minor things that were different that didn’t bother me as much, but could be fun pointing out.


Originally Posted by elgerber
Ok, I'm jumping in here, a week late. I too, finished the book for the second time the day before the movie came out. BIG MISTAKE! I will NOT do that with book 7, I am going to reread it now.

I could not believe they cut out the battle at the end. And I was also not pleased that they left out most of the relationship with Tonks and Lupin.

I also really did not like the burrows scene, I thought it was completely unnecessary! There was a lot more stuff they could have left in, had they not added that.

I thought giving us the info with the vanishing cabinets right away was a little odd, but didn't bother me that much. I did not like however, that Harry was not put under a spell by Dumbledore at the end. I don't buy that no matter what Dumbledore told him, that he would just stand there and watch.


I agree with these. I was not real thrilled about them giving the info on the vanishing cabintets right away, and then leaving out the battle at the end.

I kept waiting for Dumbledore to stun Harry at the end. Plus adding Snape seeing Harry hiding. What was with that? Even just reading HBP again recently I forgot about Dobby & Kreacher. Some of the things left out helped to move the movie along faster and that was okay, but some of the changes shouldn't have been made.
 
I am sooo disappointed. There were several things that bothered me. I haven't read all 17 pages but I will wade thru soon.

#1. I felt that this movie was such a disrespect to Dumbledore. I waited the whole movie for the emotional build up to Dumbledores murder (lets call it what it was) and I had a stash of tissues all ready. When I read the Lightning Struck Tower I cried and kept shaking my head no, no . I was emotionally spent after finishing that chapter. That Dumbledore took the precious seconds to immobilize Harry so he couldn't get hurt and was disarmed by Draco because of it, is such a subtle thing but it tells you how much he loved Harry. (he placed Harry's well being above his own.) That Harry didn't come to Dumbledores aid is totally out of character and something Harry would never ever ever do in a million years. The movie also didn't adequately address Dumbledore begging and Snapes reluctance. It didn't show each characters reaction to Dumbledore's death ~ MacGonnagal blaming herself that she sent for Snape, Hagrid disbelief and howling grief, Flitwick being stunned by Snape, Sprout and the others deciding how to go on, Hagrid being included in the discussions by MacGonnagal telling him that he is a teacher also. Also everyones reaction to Snapes involvement and how betrayed they felt. That Luna and Neville were the only DA members that fought with Ron, Ginny and Hermoine. Harry's reaction to MacGonnagals becoming Head Mistress and the office no longer being Dumbledore's. It cut out Harry giving Felix Felicis to Ron,Hermoine and Ginny and it saving them from the Deatheaters. Also if you could apparate into Hogwarts (which we know you can't but Dumbledore does it with Harry.) Why bother with the vanishing cabinet? Why would you need it? The Deatheaters could just apparate in. This movie didn't pay Dumbledore the respect his character deserved. He deserved a huge battle and the dramatic aftermath. With all the other issues I had with the movie this single thing could have redeemed it. It would have left you on a high note rather than a big fizzle. THis was our Obi Won Kenobi/Darth Vader climax. At least there it was a huge battle and you felt like shouting no when he sacrificed himself for Luke. We were robbed of our moment.

#2. Fleur/Bill/Mrs.Weasley ~ I was really disappoined that this whole thing was cut. I mean what a chance for some comic moments with the Ginny/Mrs.Weasley/Ron reaction to Fleur and Bill at the beginning of the story. And Bill getting mauled by Fenrir and Fleur and Mrs.Weasley coming together over Bill's sick bed "I am good looking enough for both of us". And the Weasleys worry about Bill. Will he be a werewolf? Won't he? They should have cut out that stupid burning scene of the Burrow and used the time for this.

#3. Harry vs Draco ~ Draco begins to do the Crucio curse and Harry counter with the Half Blood Prince's curse (Sectum sempra). This makes Harry look like he was a jerk.

#4. The movie is called the Half Blood Prince. A large part of the book is the discussion of who is the Half Blood Prince. Not addressed well enough. I mean the revealation it was Snape was poorly done.

#5. They also never had Harry tell Ron that he didn't give him Felix Felicis and that Ron did all the great Quiddich playing. A small thing but Ron deserved to know.

#6. Why explain about Lily and the fish that when a wizard dies their magic dies if you weren't going to show Harry suddenly getting unfrozen because Dumbledore's dead.

Thiings I liked

#1. Rupert Grint ~ I thought he stole the movie. The nervous Ron before the try outs was hysterical. And the love potion/poisoning scene. Fabulous. He did such a great job.

#2. Emma Watson did a nice job. She was very good portraying a broken heart.

#3. I thought Slughorn was well done.

#4. I also thought Tom Felton/Draco was very good. Enjoyed seeing him struggle with his burden.
 
#6. Why explain about Lily and the fish that when a wizard dies their magic dies if you weren't going to show Harry suddenly getting unfrozen because Dumbledore's dead.

Good point! I liked the addition of that story but you're completely right, they should have at least connected it to the end with Dumbledore freezing Harry.
 
My one MAJOR MAJOR, HATED-IT gripe with this movie would be the burning of the Burrow. Ridiculous!

No Lupin/Tonks or Bill/Fleur. Bill is also not bitten by Fenir Greyback.

The entire (sold-out) theater wanted to strangle Lavander if she uttered one more "Won-Won!"

Which brings me to the subject of Ron/Rupert. His best HP movie to date!

I rather enjoyed Slughorn's character.

Dumbledore...what was up with him? He's supposed to be like a father to Harry...

However, Draco/Tom Felton was superb! For once, you got sympathy out of Draco!

Neville and Luna--not nearly enough of them! Not nearly enough!

Katie Bell--nice to hear her speak, but...they just left the matter of the necklace/poisioned mead alone once it happened. They didn't try to figure out who did it!
Harry just went "Draco did it!", McGongall and Snape left it at that! COME ON!

I've heard that the next movie (DH Part I) opens with Dumbledore's funeral...
 
Another thing, just commented on, that I didn't mention before. I too agree, that the revealing that Snape was the Half Blood Prince was really pathetic. If you hadn't read the book, you would have no idea what that meant. I thought it was really crucial to the story and Snape himself to explain why he called himself that, what it meant. Grrrr.
 
Another thing. Bellatrix is not a major character like they are making her. Bellatrix has Snape make the unbreakable vow, Bellatrix burns the Burrow, and Bellatrix confronts Dumbledore in the Tower. NOT!! In the book the unbreakable vow is Snape's idea. I forget the wierd twin Death eaters names that are in the Tower with Draco. Raph Fienne's nephew is cute as young Tom Riddle.
 
I don't know why, but I'm just now seeing this thread.
Big HP fan. I loved it.
Snape was/is my favorite character in the series (well, Snape, Ron, and Harry) and I'm also a huge Alan Rickman fan. I love his portrayal of Snape.
 
I don't think that any other actor could pull off the Snape role as good as Rickman's done.
 
maybe the guy who plays malfoys dad but then they both have the same type of character.

sly, calm, but menacing
 
I don't think that any other actor could pull off the Snape role as good as Rickman's done.

Interestingly, Rickman was NOT the first choice to play Snape. That would be Tim Roth, who is now on the TV show "Lie to Me", but he was tied up with the Planet of the Apes remake, and was not available to be cast for the first movie.
 
maybe the guy who plays malfoys dad but then they both have the same type of character.

sly, calm, but menacing

Jason Isaacs? Definitely. He played smiilar characters in The Patriot and in Brotherhood on Showtime.
 












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