Harry Potter Book 7 *SPOILERS*

[disneyworldluvr349]

The series is concluded. The Encyclopedia is just something she's considering since so many people are curious about things that don't really have anything to do with the actual storylines in the books. Tt'll be a companion book for die hard fans who want to know every single detail, regardless of relevance to the story.

Since it's not necessary to have this to complete the series, she'll work on it on her own time and get it out when inspiration hits and she gets motivated to go through her notes.

I guess I am a die-hard fan because I would really like to know what happened to the people whose futures weren't described in the book. That comment seemed a little rude because I think that all of the character's endings hold relevance to the book. I know it is not necessary to have this to complete the story that is already completed. It would just out me at ease to not be left hanging and guessing.

 

[MyGoofy26]

Not quite sure how that could be considered rude - did I offend the characters?

Seriously though, the futures of secondary or background characters doesn't change the story. It doesn't enlighten us anymore as to the resolution. Using Rowling's interview as an example when she talked about Luna's future. . . doesn't really change anything we understand about the 7 books, does it? So it doesn't "complete" anything. Just fills in the curious gaps that we're all discussing, analyzing, hypothesizing, etc.

 

[disneyworldluvr349]

Not quite sure how that could be considered rude - did I offend the characters?

Seriously though, the futures of secondary or background characters doesn't change the story. It doesn't enlighten us anymore as to the resolution. Using Rowling's interview as an example when she talked about Luna's future. . . doesn't really change anything we understand about the 7 books, does it? So it doesn't "complete" anything. Just fills in the curious gaps that we're all discussing, analyzing, hypothesizing, etc.

It was just rude to assume that knowing the endings of the "secondary" characters is irrelevant. It actually offended me. I took you comment as my interests in the book is irrelevant but besides that it completes something for me personally. There will be no more "discussing, analyzing, and hypothesizing" just the straight details.

 

[MyGoofy26]

I think you're reading a little too much into what I said. It wasn't a personal zing directed at anybody. Rowling herself obviously agrees that all of that info isn't necessary to complete the stories or she would have included it at some point in the 7 books. That's all it meant - nothing more. Wasn't a dig at anybody who wants to know that information to satisfy their own curiosity - I myself will be lined up when it finally comes out. Don't take it so personally.

But the poor woman has spent 17 years creating these books. She deserves a break before diving back in.

 

[disneyworldluvr349]

I think you're reading a little too much into what I said. It wasn't a personal zing directed at anybody. Rowling herself obviously agrees that all of that info isn't necessary to complete the stories or she would have included it at some point in the 7 books. That's all it meant - nothing more. Wasn't a dig at anybody who wants to know that information to satisfy their own curiosity - I myself will be lined up when it finally comes out. Don't take it so personally.

But the poor woman has spent 17 years creating these books. She deserves a break before diving back in.

You are right on that account. I am sorry I took your comment to personally.

 

[shmoogrrrl]

I just finished the book and on the whole, I think it ended the way that it needed to. I just had a few things that I would have changed.

1. The one thing that I was looking forward to in Book 7 was Mrs. Weasley's realization that Harry and Ginny were a couple. Yeah, I know that technically they had broken up by the end of book 6, but I would have thought it was obvious to everyone that it was more of a 'technical' break up meant to try to protect her. I figured that at the end there would be a moment when they were re-united and that Mrs. Weasley would get to react. She loves Harry so much that you know that she would have been thrilled. Not to mention that I'm sure it was obvious to her, as Ginny's Mother, how Ginny felt about him. I think everyone saw Ron and Hermione coming so I don't think that would have been a surprise to anyone.

2. Although I know why she couldn't have Neville outright kill Bellitrix, I really wish that he had a bigger part in her destruction. So much was made in the books about what happened to Neville's parents that I thought he deserved a little bit of revenge. I loved Mrs. Weasley taking her down, but I would have been happier if Neville had disarmed her first or something.

3. I always saw Lupin as way more of a Father figure to Harry than Sirius. Sirius was more of a 'friend' to Harry it seemed than a Father so I was pretty sad when Lupin just turned up dead with very little interaction with Harry. I think that the character deserved better than to just be lying there dead with his wife by his side.

4. Neville is my favorite character in the book, and Luna is probably my second favorite. Having said that, I am so happy that she didn't stick them together at the end. Although I can see them being friends, I never pictured them together at all. They seem way too different. I actually would have liked to see Luna end up with George, if we had to hook her up with someone. With his ability to laugh at anything, I'd think he would find her very amusing. Hehehe.

Anyway, great book but I am still sad about not getting my big Mrs. Weasley payoff. Her squealing would be totally worth it to me.

 

[Daxx]

2. Although I know why she couldn't have Neville outright kill Bellitrix, I really wish that he had a bigger part in her destruction. So much was made in the books about what happened to Neville's parents, that I thought he deserved a little bit of revenge.

I don't see Neville as a revenge-seeker, though. I can't see him having the intent of going out and exacting revenge on anyone. If he killed her by happenstance yeah, but I can't see him intentionally seeking her out to satisfy a need for revenge.

3. I always saw Lupin as way more of a Father figure to Harry than Sirius. Sirius was more of a 'friend' to Harry it seemed than a Father ...

I agree -- it seemed as if Sirius saw Harry as James or an extension of James b/c he even said (in OOTP movie) "Good one, James!" while he and Harry were battling. (I can't remember if he said it in the book). I think Sirius doesn't see Harry for who Harry is (ie: a teen) ... he sees him as his old mate come back to life. Lupin is far more "fatherly" w/Harry. James is def. more of a "I'm not your parent, so I can have fun w/you" type. Sirius is the guy who will buy you a motorcycle when you turn 16 b/c your parents won't. He's the guy who gets you into a bar when you're not of age... someone who will break the rules and show you a good time. Lupin def. "guided" Harry more, took him under his wing. However, Sirius is the "wild child" of the group and the one to do those crazy things whereas Lupin is the one who would be the voice of sensibility/reason.

 

[gometros]

A couple characters I was surprised were missing: Moaning Myrtle and Fawkes. I thought sure Fawkes would come back to Harry, esp after Hagrid died.

Did you mean Hagrid or Dumbledore? Hagrid did not die and Fawkes belonged to Dumbledore.

 

[gometros]

2) HOW did Neville get the sword back from the goblins? The last we saw of the sword was at Gringotts, and the goblin had it, correct? The 3 escaped on the dragon without the sword, and all of a sudden Neville pops up with it at the end?

Neville pulled the swrod out of the sorting hat the same way Harry did in the Chamber of Secrets

 

[PrincessBelle23]

I just finished the book and on the whole, I think it ended the way that it needed to. I just had a few things that I would have changed.

1. The one thing that I was looking forward to in Book 7 was Mrs. Weasley's realization that Harry and Ginny were a couple.

aww I like that idea! That would have been a sweet moment in all the craziness of the battle scene.

 

[dodukes]

I don't see Neville as a revenge-seeker, though. I can't see him having the intent of going out and exacting revenge on anyone. If he killed her by happenstance yeah, but I can't see him intentionally seeking her out to satisfy a need for revenge.


I agree -- it seemed as if Sirius saw Harry as James or an extension of James b/c he even said (in OOTP movie) "Good one, James!" while he and Harry were battling. (I can't remember if he said it in the book). I think Sirius doesn't see Harry for who Harry is (ie: a teen) ... he sees him as his old mate come back to life. Lupin is far more "fatherly" w/Harry. James is def. more of a "I'm not your parent, so I can have fun w/you" type. Sirius is the guy who will buy you a motorcycle when you turn 16 b/c your parents won't. He's the guy who gets you into a bar when you're not of age... someone who will break the rules and show you a good time. Lupin def. "guided" Harry more, took him under his wing. However, Sirius is the "wild child" of the group and the one to do those crazy things whereas Lupin is the one who would be the voice of sensibility/reason.

Just saw the movie today for the first tie and as an aside i was a little disspointed but no i dont think he says good one jame in the book. I just reread it before watchign the movie (which could be why i tthoguth it was disspointing) but i definetly herad him say it in the movie, maybe it was the movies way of showing that side of him to the audience since they didnt really go into very much detail like the book.
I thought they skipped a lot of importatn parts but thats just me.

 

[Pinkprincessmom]

I finished reading the book on Wednesday and just finished all the posts today!! I've loved everyone's insight and opinions. It did help me figure some things out without posting my questions.

I do still have one question that I did not see answered. During the trial, Umbridge had a cat patronis to keep the dementers away. I thought that Death Eaters didn't need a patronis. Was it just that she was prejudiced against muggles and half bloods, but not necessarily a Voldy supporter?

Thanks. I've truly enjoyed the HP ride.

 

[MomofKatie]

I finished reading the book on Wednesday and just finished all the posts today!! I've loved everyone's insight and opinions. It did help me figure some things out without posting my questions.

I do still have one question that I did not see answered. During the trial, Umbridge had a cat patronis to keep the dementers away. I thought that Death Eaters didn't need a patronis. Was it just that she was prejudiced against muggles and half bloods, but not necessarily a Voldy supporter?

Thanks. I've truly enjoyed the HP ride.

The Patronus was to protect them from the dementors. The dementors don't care what side a witch or wizard is on- they just want to feast on all the hope and happiness in that person. They have no problem at all turning on their supposed allies. The dementors have shown, throughout the series, that as long as they have victims, they don't really care who is in power. The only reason they are "with" Voldemort now is that they get freer rein to go out and attack- the Death Eaters like it (or at least don't care) when they go after Muggles. When Voldemort was exiled, the dementors were restricted to guarding Azkaban.

 

[Pinkprincessmom]

Thanks Jen. I just thought that I read somewhere...perhaps somewhere in these 63 pages of posts... that death eaters did not have a patronus. But it turned out that Snape did have one, thus revealing that he wasn't a true death eater.

 

[Maleficent13]

Interesting observation now that I'm re-reading the series: in Sorcerer's Stone, Dumbledore's device that extinguishes lights is called a "Put Outer". In Deathly Hallows, it's a "Deluminator". Apparently it was promoted and got a fancier title.

 

[ivanova]

I finished reading the book on Wednesday and just finished all the posts today!! I've loved everyone's insight and opinions. It did help me figure some things out without posting my questions.

I do still have one question that I did not see answered. During the trial, Umbridge had a cat patronis to keep the dementers away. I thought that Death Eaters didn't need a patronis. Was it just that she was prejudiced against muggles and half bloods, but not necessarily a Voldy supporter?

Thanks. I've truly enjoyed the HP ride.

Umbridge wasn't a death eater ... just a pure blood loving, muggle hating, prat.

 

[Pinkprincessmom]

Umbridge wasn't a death eater ... just a pure blood loving, muggle hating, prat.

That's what I was thinking. Just wanted to see if others agreed. By the way, I'm a Susan too!

 

[disneyworldluvr349]

What did happen to Umbridge? I am sure she isn't through with being controlling at Hogwarts if she is still alive...

 

[ivanova]

Thanks Jen. I just thought that I read somewhere...perhaps somewhere in these 63 pages of posts... that death eaters did not have a patronus. But it turned out that Snape did have one, thus revealing that he wasn't a true death eater.

He was a true death eater. JKR in her chat mentioned that DE's didn't "need" a patronus; not that they couldn't have one.

Regarding Umbridge she said:

Pablo: What is toadface Umbridge doing now?

J.K. Rowling: Glad to see you like her as much as I do! She was arrested, interrogated and imprisoned for crimes against Muggleborns.

 

[Pinkprincessmom]

I've read some of her interviews. I missed that. I'll have to look again. Thanks again.