Harry and Meghan Netflix documentary

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I think this will be the resolution to this mess. No A-listers will “side” with H&M, rather than with the King. Only a total megalomaniac would think they would. Eventually interest will evaporate, along with invitations to events. Fewer photo ops, no matter how hard M strives.
Yesterday Charles met with Ryan Reynolds in Wales as owners of Wrexham Football club, I hope and wouldn't be surprised if Reynolds was able to persuade the king to participate in some kind of sketch, or maybe in the future he will convince William as Prince of Wales to participate in something. Imagine Charles or William in Deadpool 3 :D
 
I figured out what what didn't sit right. Just so many lies that leave you thinking *** was that. Like she didn't know who Harry was. Nobody believes that. Or how she was simultaneously assaulted with the N word in California and also never experienced racism until she got to the UK. Sure. Or, supposedly months into dating the guy, didn't know how to greet a queen or what a walkabout is.

Those are the kind of things maybe she should have tried to explain. Not her half, step cousin who got uninvited to the wedding, boo hoo.

These weird blatant lies leave you thinking. She thinks we are all this dumb? It's like Netflix left all that in to make her look bad.
 
Can someone please link the article where Meghan was officially diagnosed as a narcissist? I don’t pay attention to every news article but this would be a pretty big announcement.
I haven't seen any, but, if there are some, I would imagine that, as H&M's claims, complaints and choices are put under the microscope (understandably), then some have suggested signs of possible narcissistic motivations. They could only be suggestions, of course.
 

Can someone please link the article where Meghan was officially diagnosed as a narcissist? I don’t pay attention to every news article but this would be a pretty big announcement.
Well this information would be private between her and doctor ... and I highly doubt she went to a doctor for anything like this. That kind of medical evaluation would likely come without consent because of some kind of event. And if that happened unless there were some kind of court case it would still remain private.

I think people are referring to comments, using that word, made by the Royal Staffers, a well known psychiatrist, some medical people who use her past & present behavior for data and of course media jumps on. That kind of diagnosis as a whole comes from observed behavior and not because someone went to a doctor for a test. I mean that would be counter productive to the behavior itself.
 
Well this information would be private between her and doctor ... and I highly doubt she went to a doctor for anything like this. That kind of medical evaluation would likely come without consent because of some kind of event. And if that happened unless there were some kind of court case it would still remain private.

I think people are referring to comments, using that word, made by the Royal Staffers, a well known psychiatrist, some medical people who use her past & present behavior for data and of course media jumps on. That kind of diagnosis as a whole comes from observed behavior and not because someone went to a doctor for a test. I mean that would be counter productive to the behavior itself.

I was just wondering because it seems so many on here have diagnosed her and have all this insider information.
 
I was just wondering because it seems so many on here have diagnosed her and have all this insider information.
That is because when you see a list of characteristics of NPD, Meghan ticks all the boxes. Of course it is not official, but her behaviour speaks volumes with this list in mind. I cannot be sure, but I think it very plausible.

It is not just on here, if you google Meghan and narcissist, you will find plenty of articles.
 
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I have been gathering some reviews from news sources outside the UK as they are incredibly biased. Same for the New York Post.

A lot is behind a paywill unfortunately. I’d love to read the Sydney Morning Herald with the headline: Meghan Markle is ultimate disruptor and her husband is a bit scared of her.
Same for the Wall Street Journal calling it a ‘royal pity party’.

And it’s not a review, but it did make me giggle: https://nationalpost.com/opinion/satire-dear-diary-meghan-markle

New York Times: ‘Harry & Meghan’ has all the intimacy of Instagram

Pro:
The personal pictures. They speak the language of influence, for the era of influencers.

Con: Awfully long and tiresome.
“It is not so much of a bombshell directed at Buckingham Palace as an image-making exercise for the endless scroll.”

Extra: “In the third episode, Meghan reveals that she chose to wear only neutral colors such as beige, cream and black during her time in the royal family so that she would “blend in,” and because no one was allowed to wear the same color as the queen or another senior royal in a public setting. The implication being now that she and Harry had left “the firm,” she was free to express her true self in whatever bright plumage she desired — except judging by her film choices, that apparently means more neutrals. Which undermines the suggestion of sacrifice attached to her royal wardrobe, while underscoring her sensitivity to presentation and its various interpretations.”

Chicago Tribune: Harry & Meghan: In Part I, the couple addresses racism and the press – but so far steer clear of royal family digs
2.5 out of 4

Pro:
The intention (people make money with books etc. telling their story, why wouldn’t they do the same). H&M come across as personable, friendly, glamorous and approachable. It shows what Meghan got put on her shoulders for being black/biracial (black people felt seen, she was making history). Doria Ragland is a good addition as we have never heard from her before.

Con: It’s padded and needed a better editor. The series doesn’t solve the dilemma choosing between the two subjects: H&M’s story and the bigger picture how this system works / came to be. Garbus let others do the heavy lifting (like with the Blackmoor brooch, H&M don’t speak about it, same with some topics by the experts). What is missing is Meghan’s view on Diana, she was 16 when Diana died and how that related to her when she got married to Harry.

Extra: They are public figures and their work should be judged and analyzed, but as people are either for or against them, it’s not a path for healthy media analysis.

Variety: Netflix’s ‘Harry & Meghan’ rehashes the royal family drama, one more time

Pro:
The niece, cannily deployed to defuse criticism from the Markle family.
Sympathy for their situation: H&M seem forced into rehashing their drama as part of their Netflix deal. Even after breaking from Buckingham Palace, they are still someone’s subjects.

Con: Same old story (Quotes below). They used to be bound by strict royal codes, now they are still bound, but by their own self imposed codes. He’s Charles’ son too.

“The Sussexes surprise us yet again, with just how narrow their vision of their fame is, how pinched and unimaginative their presence on the world stage has become. They may have shed their responsibilities to the crown, but they’re still in a kind of service: There’s an air of duty about the entire enterprise of “Harry & Meghan,” as if they’re honor-bound to keep reciting their personal story until we eventually lose interest.

At the top of the series, Meghan asks the camera, “Doesn’t it make more sense to hear our story from us?” The unstated answer comes to be, Well, sure, but maybe filtered through the sensibility of a journalist or presenter willing to push past the familiar. As with the most recent, painfully dull season of “The Crown,” there seems a sort of narrative stuckness, an inability or lack of desire to find the next thing to say that we haven’t yet heard.”

Extra: Below quote is intriguing. It says H&M strive to do good, but the article only gives examples of Harry’s charity work.

“Harry and Meghan are people who strive to do good: Harry’s work with veterans, for instance, is admirable, and we see it onscreen as the one time he’s truly at ease.”

Hollywood Reporter: Harry & Meghan Review: Netflix docuseries takes a lot of time to reveal very little
Pro:
The personal stories, pictures, Archie are all cute. It’s lovely they can speak up now.

Con: It offers very little new things (especially when someone says never been able to tell their story, you expect some things we didn’t know yet). The anecdote of Harry being late to their first date.

NBC: The Biggest Problem with Harry & Meghan’s new Netflix series

Pro:
Doria Ragland and Harry talking about the nazi-costume incident.

Con: Meghan wants to tell her story, and then tells nothing new. The series is underwhelming after all the revelations in the Oprah interview.

CNN: Why ‘Harry & Meghan’ is a royal disappointment

Pro:

Con:
It’s not the full truth, it’s to drum up sympathy for themselves. “It’s self-promotional, self-aggrandizing and, frankly, a little boring.”

Extra: “Indeed, when asked why she wanted to make this documentary, Meghan answers, “When you feel like people haven’t gotten any sense of who you are for so long, it’s really nice to just be able to have the opportunity to let people have a bit more of a glimpse into what’s happened and also who we are.”

But who’s to say that people haven’t gotten a glimpse of who they are? What makes their version — a heavily produced, edited and controlled version — more honest than any version of their lives that’s come before? It’s striking how much the filtered version of events functions in the series as their version of real life.

Harry and Meghan’s fatal flaw — both the couple’s and the film’s — is in thinking they can control how others see them. None of us can. And that the couple keeps trying, despite also asking to be left alone, reflects a naive outlook and disingenuous attitude that viewers will pick up on, especially against the fact that the documentary strives to portray them as “more grounded” than the rest of the royal family. In reality, they may be the most out of touch of them all.”

Toronto Star: The Harry and Meghan doc wasn’t shocking – and that’s a good thing:

Pro:
“The only thing ominous was the dramatic piano music soundtrack.” (Let’s put this in ‘pro’). Sweet details about their relationship. Doria Ragland. No mudslinging to the royals but to the press.

Con: By talking about Kate he puts words in her mouth and draws conclusions. There is better stuff to be angry about.
Too much we have heard before.

NOS (Dutch national news): Harry and Meghan overplay their hand with ‘therapy sessions’

Pro:
Harry has a point in his opinions about the media. It’s aimed at a US audience and for them this is a good series.

Con: Vanity project. Meghan is not believable when saying she has no idea what she has gotten herself into / not googling Harry. Everything is portrayed from their position as a victim.

Telegraaf (Dutch most popular newspaper): Documentary Harry and Meghan is entertaining, but it’s too much a repeat

Pro:
Adorable lovestory. The niece. It is clear how the treatment of the media influenced their decision.

Con: Repeat of their story of the last few years / nothing new. No critical notes about the couple (but that’s their right as it’s their story)

Extra: Unintentionally, Harry makes a good argument for the mediacode the Dutch press has with the Dutch royal family.

Die Welt (German newspaper): Harry plays the game he detests so much
Pro:
It's understandable why Harry wants to tell his story, given his history.

Con: Why is Harry feeding the press without hesitation, and destroying his relationship with his father, his brother and the UK public at the same time.
The couple just can't let it go.
 
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Did anyone see photos of people curtsying to Meghan? Sorry, don’t have time right now to find the lot of them, but here’s one. You can see her smirk from the back! I wonder what she really thinks of the lady in red!

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I clicked and this was on the same page. There is no hope for Haz. He's completely out of touch with reality (delusional).

"Prince Harry is said to have been 'delighted' to see the first three episodes of his Netflix docu-series air this week and has 'absolutely no regrets', despite facing criticism from many in Britain.

A close friend of his late mother, Princess Diana, told the Mirror that the Duke of Sussex hopes his brother Prince William and father King Charles will watch the series to get a better idea of what he and Meghan have had to go through.

Harry is also reportedly still hoping that he can make 'some kind of peace' with the rest of the Royal Family, despite many thinking that the series has only made any chance of reconciliation less likely."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...etflix-series-Meghan.html?ico=related-replace
 
I clicked and this was on the same page. There is no hope for Haz. He's completely out of touch with reality (delusional).

"Prince Harry is said to have been 'delighted' to see the first three episodes of his Netflix docu-series air this week and has 'absolutely no regrets', despite facing criticism from many in Britain.

A close friend of his late mother, Princess Diana, told the Mirror that the Duke of Sussex hopes his brother Prince William and father King Charles will watch the series to get a better idea of what he and Meghan have had to go through.

Harry is also reportedly still hoping that he can make 'some kind of peace' with the rest of the Royal Family, despite many thinking that the series has only made any chance of reconciliation less likely."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...etflix-series-Meghan.html?ico=related-replace
Harry is delusional. On so many levels.
 
Shall we do a round of people contradicting the documentary?
(I lead an incredibly boring life, this is my popcorn)

- The house the documentary is filmed in, isn't their Montecito home. It's in the neighbourhood, up for sale/rent and owned by a businessman who scams disabled veterans.
- Besides offering Sophie and other royal aides to Meghan, there was a document to teach Meghan the ropes with details about British history, art, and walkabouts. Meghan spoke once to two experts offered.
- The BBC reporter who did the engagement interview says that the interview was micromanaged by Meghan.
- Simon McCoy says Harry confuses paparazzi with the Royal Rota (first one not invited, the second one invited) and the RF/Palace does not determine what the Royal Rota writes.
Seems to be similar to the WHCA in the US?
- Meghan says her dad's phone was hacked and the text messages are not from him. Thomas Markle says they were his.
- Royal aides say they didn't tell Meghan to not invite the niece. It was Meghan's own suggestion (due to paparazzi) and they didn't talk her out of it.
- Gabon, the newest Commonwealth country, contradicts that the Commonwealth is Empire 2.0.
- One of William & Kate's friends has spoken out: "They did marry for love."
- The palace contradicts that the royal family declined to comment. They received a request to comment from a third party, they couldn't verify the message was real with Netflix or Archewell, and therefore ignored the message. They were apparently careful after Harry being fooled by Russian pranksters.

Other new things:
- Harry is a hypocrite as in his younger days he paraded in front of the paparazzi to promote a new club owned by a friend.
- An Archetypes producer went on Tiktok to indicate that she is the one who created Archetypes, and that praising Meghan (or any other celebrity host for creating successful podcasts) is BS.
- The estimate is that on the first day in the UK 2.4 million people saw ep 1, 1.5 million saw ep 2, and 800k saw ep 3. In the US (population 5x larger than UK) less than 1 million people watched.

This article in the Huffpost was also interesting, a communications professor explains the issues about using misleading footage in documentaries (or the trailers in this case) when you go for a journalistic / objective approach. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/netflix-meghan-harry-series_n_638f66ece4b07530543e2dff


Also came across this Ted Talk by Lori Gottlieb about storytelling and point of view about your own situation. For sure in combination with the review saying 'who says this the truth, as it's so heavily edited and polished'.
 
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Welp, I watched it last night on our flight home from a vacation in Costa Rica (amazing by the way...our first time visiting and it was incredible). Figured...it was a 5 hour flight and needed to watch something. I'm not a H&M hater at all. I think they're likable enough. And I definitely think the coverage of them....her in particular took on a more ominous/racist tone. To me at least that's undeniable.

Having said all of that, I believe that H&M have now fallen into some weird in-between category like Harry's Great Grandfather, Edward VIII....who abdicated to be with Wallis Simpson. Harry is now a kind of pseudo-Royal who married Meghan who is a sort of pseudo-celebrity. And frankly, in the world they inhabit....where you need to shine brightly to command attention (and earn dollars), they came off to be a couple of incredibly boring people. I already knew about the courtship and the Botswana trip...etc. Their friends didn't really add any context to the story. H&M seem to want us to believe that they are insanely happy in their new circumstance, but three episodes in....I wasn't buying that. They said it themselves early on...."how did we end up here?"

The Royals don't have to be very interesting people. They stay behind the walls of their gilded cage and keep enough of a distance to have a mystique about them....and remain interesting to us. Then they go from house to castle to house....and hunt, fish, etc. H&M are now just run-of-the-mill celebrities who made over one hundred million dollars.....when they were still "working royals". Now that they aren't, it's just odd to me that they are doing events around the U.S. as if they are...if that makes sense. There's a scene in one of the episodes where they show up at McGuire's AF Base. It's less than an hour from my house and I never heard a thing about that visit. I don't know if the press even covered it. And I was left thinking that it was kind of weird...and sad in a way.

By the second episode I was fast-forwarding through a lot of it. It felt like I was watching a super-polished instagram feed....and well.....yawn.
 
- The house the documentary is filmed in, isn't their Montecito home. It's in the neighbourhood, up for sale/rent and owned by a businessman who scams disabled veterans.
Wait.... what?

And they wonder why people question their honesty. What the heck? If you don't want your privacy invaded, don't do a 6 part series on your lives. The answer is to keep private. Not to film your footage in a fake home.
 
There's a scene in one of the episodes where they show up at McGuire's AF Base. It's less than an hour from my house and I never heard a thing about that visit. I don't know if the press even covered it. And I was left thinking that it was kind of weird...and sad in a way.
Apparently that's his new thing now. After the drama in 2020 where Harry and Meghan went to a US graveyard with a photographer, he now goes to US military bases to take pictures with military people.
In 2021 it was McGuire, in 2022 it was Pearl Harbor where he (allegedly) staged a photoshoot ahead of Veteran's Day. https://www.express.co.uk/news/roya...-pearl-harbor-remembrance-netflix-documentary

Wait.... what?

And they wonder why people question their honesty. What the heck? If you don't want your privacy invaded, don't do a 6 part series on your lives. The answer is to keep private. Not to film your footage in a fake home.
My guess is, they told Harry that this is normal practice in Hollywood.
The house apparently does have a chicken coop, but less bathrooms.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...y-Meghans-Netflix-documentary-not-theirs.html
 
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