Guess What I Was Just Told?i Have The Long Awaited Disney Perk,WE GET THE AP AND PAP

[mrsminniemouse]

We have bought our APs at the airport before (Mickey's EarPort at MCO) so that we have it ready to check in and receive the AP room discount at various resorts- not that any CM ever asked proof we were AP holders, does it show on their system?. The new info doesn't say they will sell passes with discount at the airport.

Next trip we are staying at The Contemporary Tower for 4 nights before our DVC stay. We have booked the room and hope to get the AP discount if/when it becomes available.

So will I have to go to DTD or a park to buy the AP (I guess MK is close enough) or could I order them from the DVC website and show the redemption certificate at check in?

Very excited about this news!! Thanks DVC!!!

Mandy

 

[poohj80]

Originally posted by mrsminniemouse
So will I have to go to DTD or a park to buy the AP (I guess MK is close enough) or could I order them from the DVC website and show the redemption certificate at check in?

The DVC Member site does mention we will be able to order the passes via the web site after Jan 2 so you should be fine with the vouchers.

 

[mom2rb]

We are going this Dec. and then again in Sept. We will not be getting the discount this year. The great news is that in 2006 my boys will be 8 and I think they will be the perfect age to enjoy DQ and the water parks. I have been dreading the move up to PAPs but now it won't be bad at all.

 

[LeftyES]

Originally posted by erikthewise
If the 25% discount comes before tax is applied, the net cost is

ORIGINAL PRICE * 0.75 * 1.065

If the 25% discount comes after tax is applied, the net cost is

ORIGINAL PRICE * 1.065 * 0.75

When you think of it this way, it should not come as a big surprise that the results are exactly the same.

Actually, the discount is not a percentage, but a straight amount. So there is a little savings to having the discount come before tax.

For example, AP runs $403.64. If the discount is post tax, it would be $303.64. If is is pre-tax, it would be $297.14. So, you save an extra $6.50.
Minor, but a penny saved is a penny earned!

Now, does anyone know if we can use our Disney Visa rewards for these, cause I got a lotta Christmas shopping to put on my CC in the next month!!!

 

[poohj80]

Originally posted by LeftyES
Now, does anyone know if we can use our Disney Visa rewards for these, cause I got a lotta Christmas shopping to put on my CC in the next month!!!

I'm saving my rewards for APs as well and assume we can use them when purchasing at the parks just like before.

 

[Yopaulie]

If you already have an annual pass will the discount apply to renewels?

 

[Beca]

To those who are asking about buying AP's early...the website has a lot of info on this....it seems that you will be able to buy the certficates either via the website or member services (which is pretty cool), and then you can exchange them for AP's when you get to the park. If you have an understanding CM at check-in...you could probably show the certificate and they would let you have the discount.

Regarding drivers' license(s)...yes, it DOES appear that you must have a BLUE member card, and adults need to reside at the same address. This CANNOT possibly hold though, because I have read TOO many posts about people who own DVC with their grown sibling, or cousin...or whomever. Now, I am a Texas girl born and raised (now transplanted to AZ)...and, even WE wouldn't have the same address as our grown cousins, or siblings (well, most of us anyway ).

But, I have also recently moved, and DH has changed his license address, and I simply "registered" my change with the DOT (AZ does not require you to get a new license...just to register the change). But, it is REALLY easy to get a new license (we can do it for $4.00 over the internet...check your state to see).

However, it will be interesting to see how WDW enforces this...not ALL members of an account live at the same address, and DVC has allowed this when contracts were sold. No one has been told, "I'm sorry, you live in different homes...therefore, you cannot purchase a contract together." Therefore, they really can't make these rules "arbitrarily" post purchase. We are ALL entitled to the same benefits, regardless of our address.

I also wonder how WDW will enforce this. If two siblings share a contract, but vacation separately, and show up at different times to get AP's...will they check the addresses of the other people on file? Couldn't the 2nd party simply say they reside together (if need be), but ALL have moved?

Either way, it won't hold. I predict a time when all adults need EITHER a blue member card, OR a driver's license showing the same address, but not both. There are just too many members who cannot fill that requirement.



Beca

 

[Doctor P]

I understand about the address thing, but frankly the scenario you have outlined won't probably be much of an issue. Reason: if you have a blue member card and a driver's license that matches the blue member card, then I don't think they are going to be concerned. So, I think you will need both, but I don't think that if you have a blue member card and a driver's license it will need to match with the blue card and driver's license that another member has. I think the address matching will only need to be done for those people who do not have a blue member's card of their own and are there with the member.

 

[KristiKelly]

I think this is great news. Even though we only go once a year, I will try to arrange them around an annual pass.

This really makes perfect business sense (& I hope they keep the discount permanently).

Annual pass = more trips to WDW
more trips = more points needed
more points needed = add-on

 

[Boardwalk4us]

Ok, so now we know that this "perk" is for sure. When are we, as the fortunate DVC'ers that we are, going to start a thread to THANK those that heard our "wants". Any way you look at it, it is a perk just as any of the other DVC discounts are, whether you are able to use them or not. All the discounts are available to you as DVC members if it works out for you. So I am not going to over analyze this. I am thankful that someone in the DVC hierachy heard our "wants" and felt it was in Disney's best interest to do something about it and then actually follow through. Does anyone realize how many channels this must have gone through to actually get this type of discount through?

THANK YOU TO DVC MANAGEMENT - WHOEVER WORKED TOGETHER TO GET THIS ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!!!

Very Happy DVC Member.

Nancy

 

[DVCcollector]

This is great news our guide tried calling us a few times to let us know we are ordering all the passes we can LOL.

 

[DrTomorrow]

Originally posted by Doctor P
I understand about the address thing, but frankly the scenario you have outlined won't probably be much of an issue. Reason: if you have a blue member card and a driver's license that matches the blue member card, then I don't think they are going to be concerned. So, I think you will need both, but I don't think that if you have a blue member card and a driver's license it will need to match with the blue card and driver's license that another member has. I think the address matching will only need to be done for those people who do not have a blue member's card of their own and are there with the member.

No, I think Beca has a point. For example, think of two adult sisters, living at different addresses, who co-own a DVC contract. If I understand correctly (which is always a dubious assumption ) there is only one "address of record" on a contract, so while both sisters will have a Membership Card, one of them will have a drivers license which does not match the contract. What if there are three different owners/addresses? Four? There's also the issue of "max 8 AP/PAP's per year". Per contract? Per member? What about multiple contracts?

Sadly, it sounds like Disney, while offering a great perk (Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!), has opened up a record-keeping (and relationship-verification) can of worms. When someone steps up to Guest Relations to buy an AP with a DVC discount, here's the routine:

Present Membership card to verify DVC ownership
GR CM must confirm
Show drivers license to verify address as same on contract (!)
GR CM must confirm
Show some form of proof of "immediate family" status (?)
GR CM must confirm
Make sure that purchase doesn't exceed "per member / per contract" maxium for the year.
GR CM must confirm

This is either going to have to be simplifed / relaxed prior to implementation, or we're going to have a new "occupancy-type" issue, where CMs may or may not perform all the confirmations listed above.

Note: I have no problem with restrictions (although I believe same address is too restrictive); but the policy they appear to have put into place seems hard to implement and easy to foul up.

But even if it's only DW and I who can benefit, once again: Thank you for the perk!

 

[erikthewise]

Great idea Nancy!
I have started such a thread on the DVC Community Board, go here to contribute!

Originally posted by Boardwalk4us
Ok, so now we know that this "perk" is for sure. When are we, as the fortunate DVC'ers that we are, going to start a thread to THANK those that heard our "wants". Any way you look at it, it is a perk just as any of the other DVC discounts are, whether you are able to use them or not. All the discounts are available to you as DVC members if it works out for you. So I am not going to over analyze this. I am thankful that someone in the DVC hierachy heard our "wants" and felt it was in Disney's best interest to do something about it and then actually follow through. Does anyone realize how many channels this must have gone through to actually get this type of discount through?

THANK YOU TO DVC MANAGEMENT - WHOEVER WORKED TOGETHER TO GET THIS ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!!!

Very Happy DVC Member.

Nancy

 

[Doctor P]

The good news appears to be that I THINK you are reading to much into the same address issue. If you go to dvcmember.com, it doesn't say anything about the "address of record" and there won't be any way, IMHO, that they are going to have Guest Relations tied in to that part of the DVC member database. What it says on the website, the way I read it, is that everyone has to have the same address as the person presenting the blue member card (which can be matched by name at least with the person's photo ID). I really think that is all they are going to do, and all that was intended. I also think this is all that one could reasonably expect Guest Relations to do (remember, these can be bought at GR at the parks, not just resorts) in terms of ID'ing people. If this isn't what was intended, I will at least be that this is the way it is implemented.

 

[disneyma]

If you add someone to your contract as an associate member....do they receive a blue membership card also???

If they have a blue membership card...then why could they just go to the parks...present blue membership card and license and get the discount?

 

[Jillpie]

Originally posted by janette
With the discount the price for the AP is the same as a 7 day PH. With it you'll be able to go to the parks without having to spend the day any of the 8 days you'll be there. If you want to go see Wishes or something in the evening you can do just that. Last year after traveling all day and getting settled I went to MK just to see Wishes. Great way to start a trip , not very practical if you are using PH.

My DH does very little park time but loves an AP because he can go for 1hr or 8 on any day we are there.

ok, thanks for your response. In the end, I don't think I'll be taking advantage of the AP. We're only going to the parks 6 days this trip, so it sounds like it doesn't make sense. It looks like we'll be sticking to PH's this time around.

 

[Beca]

Doctor P...I hope you are right, and in the end, that may be the way it falls, but that is NOT how I read the website. This is on the website in three different locations:

When a Walt Disney World Annual or Premium Annual Pass is purchased through any Walt Disney World Theme Park or the Downtown Disney Guest Relations location, your Disney Vacation Club Member ID card must be provided and ALL adults must present a valid driver's license or state identification card showing they reside in the same household.

Nowhere on there do I see a "DVC member card OR a valid state ID showing the same address as the member".

I hope you're right, and I am sure that, after time WDW will realize this, and hopefully change it. I just don't think all of the ramifications of this have been thought through. I'm not sure the people who put this together have taken into account that two different families in two different addresses can own one DVC membership.

 

[SleepyatDVC]

Originally posted by Doctor P
The good news appears to be that I THINK you are reading to much into the same address issue. If you go to dvcmember.com, it doesn't say anything about the "address of record" and there won't be any way, IMHO, that they are going to have Guest Relations tied in to that part of the DVC member database. What it says on the website, the way I read it, is that everyone has to have the same address as the person presenting the blue member card (which can be matched by name at least with the person's photo ID). I really think that is all they are going to do, and all that was intended. I also think this is all that one could reasonably expect Guest Relations to do (remember, these can be bought at GR at the parks, not just resorts) in terms of ID'ing people. If this isn't what was intended, I will at least be that this is the way it is implemented.

I agree with Doctor P in this case. They will accept anyone with a valid blue member card and whatever address presented as id. Any other family member purchiasng an AP WITHOUT a member card will have to have the same address as the blue card member with them.

 

[Doctor P]

Beca, we are reading the same thing and you are misinterpreting what I am saying. If the person who has the different address also has a blue card, then they just buy their pass separately showing the blue card and the photo ID. Anyone who doesn't have a blue card will have to have a photo ID that matches up with the address of the person that has the blue card. Seems very clear to me that that is what they are talking about, and I know that you certainly hope that my interpretation is correct! We're on the same side, so realize I'm trying to help not argue!

 

[EmptyNester]

Originally posted by Beca
Doctor P...I hope you are right, and in the end, that may be the way it falls, but that is NOT how I read the website. This is on the website in three different locations:

When a Walt Disney World Annual or Premium Annual Pass is purchased through any Walt Disney World Theme Park or the Downtown Disney Guest Relations location, your Disney Vacation Club Member ID card must be provided and ALL adults must present a valid driver's license or state identification card showing they reside in the same household.

I interpret this, this way:

*I present my DVC Member ID and my DL/State ID to buy my AP.
*My husband presents his DL/State ID (cause he's an adult ) to prove he resides with me, and I buy his AP.
*I can buy an AP for my "adult" children who present a DL/State ID that shows they reside with me.
*I can buy an AP for my minor children without additional ID's.
*I can't buy an AP for my DMIL because the address on her DL/State ID is not the same as mine.

It will be interesting to see how Disney applies these restrictions to actual AP sales.

- Sharon