GRAND OPENING - GRAND CLOSING (Florida)

[Jrb1979]

https://www.abc15.com/news/state/ar...vie-theaters-gyms-and-water-parks-for-30-days
I'm glad one state finally understands what's going on. I'm hoping Texas and Florida will follow.

 

[jlwhitney]

Sorry. I meant that the phased re-opening will not prevent the virus spread. I believe that once each state/city reaches phase 3, community spread will occur.

I agree with this. NY is mostly untouched as a whole, there are so many pockets of that state that are very susceptible right now.

 

[tippity]

Rest assured Cuomo isn’t afraid to dial things back quickly if numbers start to rise dramatically.

That's true, but I wonder how the citizens of NY will react if he tries dialing things back. They might ignore his orders.

 

[RamblingMad]

The numbers in Georgia went down for 5 or so weeks after the opening. It took that long for people to really venture out and turn the trend back up.

It also rains there a lot. I know a lot of people there that would stay in if it's raining or go to the movies. But with theatres closed, most stay in. How has the rain fall been over the last month?

 

[adkkev]

That's true, but I wonder how the citizens of NY will react if he tries dialing things back. They might ignore his orders.

There will certainly be some backlash if things are dialed back ... a number of people upstate were never happy with the whole lockdown from day one. It will be tough for businesses to ignore any orders though as the state has pulled the licenses of establishments who attempted to ignore previous orders. We’ll just have to see how things go over the next few weeks.

 

[kdonnel]

It also rains there a lot. I know a lot of people there that would stay in if it's raining or go to the movies. But with theatres closed, most stay in. How has the rain fall been over the last month?

Been a glorious spring! Probably the best in the last 15-20 years.

People were real slow to get out once the opening was announced. Parts of Georgia opened as early as late April. Numbers basically stayed flat until mid June. That was about the time people really started getting out.

 

[DLgal]

That’s in NYC and WNY ... much of the rest of NY STATE is in Phase 4 of the re-openings. Gyms, malls, and movie theaters are still closed but indoor dining is now allowed at 50% capacity. Many manufacturing facilities have re-opened as well.

However that doesn’t mean that there may well be an uptick in cases in the upstate area. We‘ll see how things progress over the next couple of weeks, especially after the July 4th weekend. Rest assured Cuomo isn’t afraid to dial things back quickly if numbers start to rise dramatically.

There’s a lot more to NY STATE than New York City.

I lived in NY state for several years.

Orange county, CA, where I live is only about 2 weeks into phase 3 of reopening and our cases have increased dramatically in the last month, after dine in restaurants were opened up. Our dine in restaurants are capped at 50% occupancy. Bars and gyms and nail salons/tattoo parlors have only been open a little over a week (June 12). It has happened FAST. One you open bars, it's over.

 

[godisney14]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...er&utm_term=200629&utm_campaign=closeamericas

Looks like it’s not just younger people in FL accounting for all the new outbreaks. They’re reaching the elderly now at a high pace.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

I lived in NY state for several years.

Orange county, CA, where I live is only about 2 weeks into phase 3 of reopening and our cases have increased dramatically in the last month, after dine in restaurants were opened up. Our dine in restaurants are capped at 50% occupancy. Bars and gyms and nail salons/tattoo parlors have only been open a little over a week (June 12). It has happened FAST. One you open bars, it's over.

That's why NYC isn't going to reopen that quickly,

 

[tippity]

I lived in NY state for several years.

Orange county, CA, where I live is only about 2 weeks into phase 3 of reopening and our cases have increased dramatically in the last month, after dine in restaurants were opened up. Our dine in restaurants are capped at 50% occupancy. Bars and gyms and nail salons/tattoo parlors have only been open a little over a week (June 12). It has happened FAST. One you open bars, it's over.

I agree, the bars had a major impact on the numbers. But I still believe the virus spread is going to happen, unless we remain at Phase I. But Phase I increases feelings of frustration and helplessness, and further delays our economic recovery.
So the next act of inhumanity may cause another round of protests. I didn't see social distancing in BLM protests, did you? I also didn't see anyone stepping up to enforce masks or social distancing.

 

[tippity]

That's why NYC isn't going to reopen that quickly,

But when NYC does reopen no matter how long they wait, the virus will return.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

But when NYC does reopen no matter how long they wait, the virus will return.

Maybe. I'm not convinced we're going to get indoor dining/bars at all.

 

[mousefan73]

Curious any news on the planned WDW opening?? We finally cancelled our August trip.

saw on CNBC yesterday the CEO of Houston’s largest hospital group. He has some great insight on the hospitalizations currently going on and how there has been a shift tomorrow younger patients. What I clearly remember is the change in demographics. googled and actually found an article on his interview yesterday- some interesting information in there.


https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.cnb...ing-coronavirus-cases-among-young-people.html

 

[anniemae]

I also think indoor dining/bars is a big cause for surges. Something about being indoors with lots of people and no masks equals disaster. Even at 50% capacity it seems risky.

 

[jlwhitney]

I agree, the bars had a major impact on the numbers. But I still believe the virus spread is going to happen, unless we remain at Phase I. But Phase I increases feelings of frustration and helplessness, and further delays our economic recovery.
So the next act of inhumanity may cause another round of protests. I didn't see social distancing in BLM protests, did you? I also didn't see anyone stepping up to enforce masks or social distancing.

I agree, and when the states started re opening they knew it would increase cases, that was the whole point of contract tracing, but as of now there aren't enough contact tracers and this virus is insanely hard to trace because of the no symptoms and mild symptoms. Many people with even mild aren't going to really think it could be Covid so they just on thinking its a cold.

 

[jlwhitney]

Curious any news on the planned WDW opening?? We finally cancelled our August trip.

saw on CNBC yesterday the CEO of Houston’s largest hospital group. He has some great insight on the hospitalizations currently going on and how there has been a shift tomorrow younger patients. What I clearly remember is the change in demographics. googled and actually found an article on his interview yesterday- some interesting information in there.


https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.cnb...ing-coronavirus-cases-among-young-people.html

And yet they failed to address if and what underlying issues the younger people have. Younger with underlying have always been included in the higher risk, and obsesity is a huge risk and huge issue with the younger crowd. Plus many people don't realize they have things like high blood pressure and such which is why getting yearly check ups is so important. But many in their 20's don't , heck many in all ages don't.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Many young people hospitalized have no underlying issues whatsoever.

 

[tippity]

I agree, and when the states started re opening they knew it would increase cases, that was the whole point of contract tracing, but as of now there aren't enough contact tracers and this virus is insanely hard to trace because of the no symptoms and mild symptoms. Many people with even mild aren't going to really think it could be Covid so they just on thinking its a cold.

I feel like the scientific community is saying things to appease society, but their hypothesis are not based in the reality of this particular virus. Contract tracing is one example The test results can take several days, so by this time how many asymptomatic have infected others? PCR testing results need to be available within hours, not days. Then contract tracing might help.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

I feel like the scientific community is saying things to appease society, but their hypothesis are not based in the reality of this particular virus. Contract tracing is one example The test results can take several days, so by this time how many asymptomatic have infected others? PCR testing results need to be available within hours, not days. Then contract tracing might help.

Contract tracing is obviously easier in some parts of the country than others. If you're living in a Bronx apartment building, taking the train to work in Brooklyn, eating at a lunch cart, etc., you're going to be interacting with hundreds or thousands of people a day.

 

[jlwhitney]

I feel like the scientific community is saying things to appease society, but their hypothesis are not based in the reality of this particular virus. Contract tracing is one example The test results can take several days, so by this time how many asymptomatic have infected others? PCR testing results need to be available within hours, not days. Then contract tracing might help.

I agree with the need for quicker testing. I also agree that it’s to appease society and a lot of what else is going on.