GRAND OPENING - GRAND CLOSING (Florida)

[wombat_5606]

But the mask would keep the droplets from getting to her nose and mouth. I'm only saying I think the phrase "masks don't protect the wearer" are false. Yes, they are more effective to protect others. But there's still got to be some effectiveness for the wearer.

Masks don't protect the wearer from their own virus droplets. That protection is irrelevant. If my daughter is sick and doesn't know it, it doesn't matter to her whether she is wearing a mask or not. She has the virus. She's wearing a mask so when she coughs or sneezes, she doesn't expel virus droplets in the air to infect people around her.

If she isn't sick, wearing a mask is irrelevant, too. The big issue is that there are people who are sick and spreading virus but they don't know they are doing that. If they wear a mask, then they have helped lower the number of virus droplets in the surrounding air.

 

[sam_gordon]

Masks don't protect the wearer from their own virus droplets. That protection is irrelevant. If my daughter is sick and doesn't know it, it doesn't matter to her whether she is wearing a mask or not. She has the virus. She's wearing a mask so when she coughs or sneezes, she doesn't expel virus droplets in the air to infect people around her.

If she isn't sick, wearing a mask is irrelevant, too. The big issue is that there are people who are sick and spreading virus but they don't know they are doing that. If they wear a mask, then they have helped lower the number of virus droplets in the surrounding air.

EVERYONE should wear a mask when interacting with others. Whether you know your sick or think you're not. Saying "Wear your mask to protect others" will automatically turn others off, because as we know, some don't care about others. "Wear your mask to protect YOURSELF" will get more people to wear masks, and therefore protect others. AND, it's true.

 

[meremac]

I have a sister who lives in Florida and I’m really, really concerned. This is getting really bad.

I'm so sad for Floridians. This is so scary. If Florida becomes the next epicenter as predicted, this could be awful both in terms of human casualties and economic devastation since Florida is so dependent on tourism. I hope the predictions don't come to fruition, but my gut says that train may be unstoppable at this point.

 

[Lumpy1106]

About the nose thing - if you feel compelled to pull it down under your nose, you are not wearing the right mask. Believe it or not, the more tightly it form-fits to your face, the more comfortable it will be long term., IOW, the more likely you will be to forget you have it on. Just my experience and I have tried several types since this began. Ties are so much more comfortable for me.

 

[JimMIA]

Florida's positivity rate is up to almost 12%.

This is false.

Florida's positive test rate for the most recent week was 4.2%. Our overall positive rate since the start of the pandemic is 5.9%

That was an increase in both the rate and number of new cases, and ED visits are also up, so increased testing certainly does not explain the increase in new cases. Several urban counties have renewed their mandatory mask orders and others will probably follow.

And just when we were starting to feel positive about school and college for the Fall...

 

[wombat_5606]

Saying "Wear your mask to protect others" will automatically turn others off, because as we know, some don't care about others.

Sadly, that is so, so true.

 

[godisney14]

What a bunch of faux news media hoax! There’s NO reason to panic in Florida (or Texas or Arizona). It does not matter what the new case count is when the hospitalizations and deaths are not going up. It’s only because more tests are administered.
Stop worrying and keep going out and living. You do not need to wear masks because it’s against your constitutional rights. What’s next, force us to wear pants and shoes?





/SARCASM

 

[cmp3400]

And just when we were starting to feel positive about school and college for the Fall...

I know, the UCF Season Ticket holder in me dies a little bit more every time Seminole County talks about their increase in the Oviedo area

And I know, in the grand scheme of things that is a small loss--but to me it is a game--to my SIL working UCF Events is 50% of her income--so I am very aware that to a lot of people it is much more than a game

Sigh

 

[HeatherC]

This usually triggers a special cleaning. Contract tracing decides who is close contact and if they need to quarantine. It's sounds like a large portion of staff may have been affected. They should have the choice to quarantine and/or test.

Where are you talking about? The articles I read were places in St. Pete as well as Jacksonville. Not specifically one location.

 

[JimMIA]

I know, the UCF Season Ticket holder in me dies a little bit more every time Seminole County talks about their increase in the Oviedo area

And I know, in the grand scheme of things that is a small loss--but to me it is a game--to my SIL working UCF Events is 50% of her income--so I am very aware that to a lot of people it is much more than a game

Sigh

If that bothers you (and it does me too!), don't even think about looking at the Orange County stats -- especially the age distribution of cases!

 

[cmp3400]

If that bothers you (and it does me too!), don't even think about looking at the Orange County stats -- especially the age distribution of cases!

Yeah, I know some of the people in those younger Orange County Stats for this week...

 

[JimMIA]

Yeah, I know some of the people in those younger Orange County Stats for this week...

Yeah...since Day One:

• 44.8% between the ages of 15-35
• 20.6% between the ages of 15-25

I'm sure the more recent numbers are even higher.

 

[godisney14]

Wow, now we have confirmed positive tests among NHL and MLB teams.
I don't know how feasible it is to another national shelter in place, but I think it may only be a matter of time that pro sports that aren't in a bubble like the one planned for the NBA gets shut down for good in the short term.

 

[georgina]

Wow, now we have confirmed positive tests among NHL and MLB teams.
I don't know how feasible it is to another national shelter in place, but I think it may only be a matter of time that pro sports that aren't in a bubble like the one planned for the NBA gets shut down for good in the short term.

Well, that is what happens when you start testing people, suddenly find out they have it. Someone recently said 'if we stopped testing people our numbers would go down'?

 

[wombat_5606]

Well, that is what happens when you start testing people, suddenly find out they have it. Someone recently said 'if we stopped testing people our numbers would go down'?

Speaking of testing, I just saw this graphic that illustrates testing very well.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/states-comparison/testing-state-weekly-change

 

[JimMIA]

Speaking of testing, I just saw this graphic that illustrates testing very well.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/states-comparison/testing-state-weekly-change

The problem with all of these compilations is they use different criteria and different reporting dates to the point that comparisons between states are virtually meaningless.

 

[godisney14]

The problem with all of these compilations is they use different criteria and different reporting dates to the point that comparisons between states are virtually meaningless.

The biggest difference from what I’m aware of is whether the reported tests are counted on the day that the test is actually conducted and reported or the day that the sample was taken. Either way, it’s only a few days difference at most in many cases.
So, in the grand scheme of things, especially when looking at the MA, it should not matter really.

 

[JimMIA]

The biggest difference from what I’m aware of is whether the reported tests are counted on the day that the test is actually conducted and reported or the day that the sample was taken. Either way, it’s only a few days difference at most in many cases.
So, in the grand scheme of things, especially when looking at the MA, it should not matter really.

A lot of times labs report a bunch of tests in a batch, and those reports are all counted together. That results in big daily spikes sometimes that are really not representative. And if one or two of those spikes lands in one week rather than another, it can really distort things.

There is no perfect way to do things, and I think a very good argument could be made for focusing more on hospital admissions and ICU admissions. A lot of people forget (many by convenient choice aligned with their political beliefs) that the objective has always been to limit the spread as much as possible and avoid overwhelming the hospital systems.

 

[godisney14]

A lot of times labs report a bunch of tests in a batch, and those reports are all counted together. That results in big daily spikes sometimes that are really not representative. And if one or two of those spikes lands in one week rather than another, it can really distort things.

There is no perfect way to do things, and I think a very good argument could be made for focusing more on hospital admissions and ICU admissions. A lot of people forget (many by convenient choice aligned with their political beliefs) that the objective has always been to limit the spread as much as possible and avoid overwhelming the hospital systems.

Looking at weekly MA is a fluid view. It doesn’t have specific start and end days of the week. And, since those batches seem to happen on a regular schedule, it makes no difference.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

Can somebody explain NC on that graph? How do you have a -400 something % two weeks ago? Would that be change from the week prior? You can’t actually have a negative percent positive, right?