GRAND OPENING - GRAND CLOSING (Florida)

[NotUrsula]

https://www.newsweek.com/multiple-florida-hospitals-run-out-icu-beds-coronavirus-cases-spike-1511934
Some Florida hospitals are starting to run out of ICU beds.

As of yesterday, an interview on WESH with the CEO of Florida Health in Orlando, he said that they were perfectly fine in terms of equipment and bed space. He did also note that while they did have a lot of new patients admitted, the majority of them were not COVID patients, but folks who had neglected their health care during the stay-at-home order, and thus ended up hospitalized when they finally saw their doctors.

All of that is not to say that no spike is present, as there clearly is one, but so far it is the size spike that the medical facilities were anticipating, and had ramped themselves up to handle once the supply lines were patched.

 

[jlwhitney]

As of yesterday, an interview on WESH with the CEO of Florida Health in Orlando, he said that they were perfectly fine in terms of equipment and bed space. He did also note that while they did have a lot of new patients admitted, the majority of them were not COVID patients, but folks who had neglected their health care during the stay-at-home order, and thus ended up hospitalized when they finally saw their doctors.

All of that is not to say that no spike is present, as there clearly is one, but so far it is the size spike that the medical facilities were anticipating, and had ramped themselves up to handle once the supply lines were patched.

south Florida hospitals are saying similar and they have contingency plans they didn’t have back in March to get more beds in worst case scenario

 

[godisney14]

Wow, now we have confirmed positive tests among NHL and MLB teams.
I don't know how feasible it is to another national shelter in place, but I think it may only be a matter of time that pro sports that aren't in a bubble like the one planned for the NBA gets shut down for good in the short term.

Apparently, many college athletes and affiliated staff from power conferences have been testing positive. Clemson, in particular. What are they doing there? Purposely sharing water bottles?
Does not bode well for the school year beginning in Fall.

 

[JimMIA]

south Florida hospitals are saying similar and they have contingency plans they didn’t have back in March to get more beds in worst case scenario

And...we actually had some National Guard field hospitals that were set up and removed due to zero use.

 

[JimMIA]

Apparently, many college athletes and affiliated staff from power conferences have been testing positive. Clemson, in particular. What are they doing there? Purposely sharing water bottles?
Does not bode well for the school year beginning in Fall.

I think what you have there is simply young, healthy adults who are positive but asymptomatic. They will be isolated for two weeks and then be clear.

I think we will see a lot of that when colleges return in the fall. I know DD's university is going to test every dorm resident. They have something like 7,000 dorm residents, so I'm sure they will have a number of positives, but they'll isolate for two weeks and be done.

 

[adkkev]

I think what you have there is simply young, healthy adults who are positive but asymptomatic. They will be isolated for two weeks and then be clear.

I think we will see a lot of that when colleges return in the fall. I know DD's university is going to test every dorm resident. They have something like 7,000 dorm residents, so I'm sure they will have a number of positives, but they'll isolate for two weeks and be done.

Quite likely!

But you make it sound so simple with regards to the testing of 7000 dorm residents at your DD‘s university. And for those who test positive and would need to isolate for two weeks, who monitors and enforces that? Suppose one person tests positive and their roommate tests negative? What happens then? Sounds like it COULD be a logistical nightmare for the university.

Hopefully things will work out ...

 

[bosox32]

All it’ll take is a cluster or two to originate from a theme park for calls of closure.

 

[JimMIA]

Quite likely!

But you make it sound so simple with regards to the testing of 7000 dorm residents at your DD‘s university. And for those who test positive and would need to isolate for two weeks, who monitors and enforces that? Suppose one person tests positive and their roommate tests negative? What happens then? Sounds like it COULD be a logistical nightmare for the university.

Hopefully things will work out ...

Oh, it's going to be a logistical nightmare -- no doubt about that! They have 69,000 students.

They have bought 100,000 reusable masks and will require wearing them just about everywhere. And they will not only be testing dorm residents, they'll be doing temperature checks and a whole range of other stuff including contact tracing and isolation in special dorm rooms.

But it's still going to be a nightmare.

It will also turn into a financial nightmare if large numbers of students decide to stay home and take courses online for the Fall.

The system's glacial pace of decision making is also leaving many parents in a dilemma because we're not going to get the information we need to make decisions until July...which could lead to that financial nightmare.

 

[RamblingMad]

Over 4 thousand new cases in FL. That blows my mind.

 

[dclpluto]

 

[kymom99]

Oh, it's going to be a logistical nightmare -- no doubt about that! They have 69,000 students.

They have bought 100,000 reusable masks and will require wearing them just about everywhere. And they will not only be testing dorm residents, they'll be doing temperature checks and a whole range of other stuff including contact tracing and isolation in special dorm rooms.

But it's still going to be a nightmare.

It will also turn into a financial nightmare if large numbers of students decide to stay home and take courses online for the Fall.

The system's glacial pace of decision making is also leaving many parents in a dilemma because we're not going to get the information we need to make decisions until July...which could lead to that financial nightmare.

I hear ya on the slow decisions

 

[wombat_5606]

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There is a way to open safely though. Unfortunately, that takes too much effort, is too political, or people can't be bothered to understand how it works. As long as that continues to happen, the economy will suffer, the virus will spread and a lot of people will die.

 

[shh]

All it’ll take is a cluster or two to originate from a theme park for calls of closure.

Honestly, as I mentioned in another thread, I actually think it's safer at a theme park than in society! UO is strictly enforcing masks - which help protect other people. I'm seeing quite a few businesses and municipalities that are looking the other way as many go without masks, don't social distance and generally act as if everything is back to normal.

I feel like the theme parks are probably one of the strictest with respect to this right now - because they have so much to lose if there's an outbreak traced back to them.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Over 4 thousand new cases in FL. That blows my mind.

And it's not like it's just a one day spike from 900 a day or something where they dumped a bunch of back logged tests either. They did 4,000 fewer tests than the day before and also added 100 net to the pending pile. That is they added 100 more than they took off.

Update. And over 4 thousand for a second day in a row.

 

[Southernmiss]

Oh, it's going to be a logistical nightmare -- no doubt about that! They have 69,000 students.

They have bought 100,000 reusable masks and will require wearing them just about everywhere. And they will not only be testing dorm residents, they'll be doing temperature checks and a whole range of other stuff including contact tracing and isolation in special dorm rooms.

But it's still going to be a nightmare.

It will also turn into a financial nightmare if large numbers of students decide to stay home and take courses online for the Fall.

The system's glacial pace of decision making is also leaving many parents in a dilemma because we're not going to get the information we need to make decisions until July...which could lead to that financial nightmare.

I don't see how any institution can make quick decisions at this time. Numbers and information behind the virus change every day.

We are planning as if all will be normal on college campuses, but expecting it to not be.

We have 3 in college this year.

Since March, we have learned to just have no expectations and take what comes day by day

 

[RamblingMad]

And it's not like it's just a one day spike from 900 a day or something where they dumped a bunch of back logged tests either. They did 4,000 fewer tests than the day before and also added 100 net to the pending pile.

It's bad. If you look at worldometer, cases are now going up nationwide. Deaths will soon follow.

 

[hertamaniac]

Positive cases is now hovering dangerously close to 10% depending on how you parse the data.

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/06/19/coronavirus-florida-cases-spike-covid-19-record/

 

[e_yerger]

I wonder what would be the tipping point to roll back phases again. Isn’t part of the federal guidelines for reopening that cases go down between phases? This seems quite the opposite....

 

[RamblingMad]

I wonder what would be the tipping point to roll back phases again. Isn’t part of the federal guidelines for reopening that cases go down between phases? This seems quite the opposite....

There is a rally today. There were protests for over a week. The best you can hope for is some mask mandates and some at risk businesses voluntarily closing up shop. It's the wild, wild west boys and girls. Enjoy.

 

[e_yerger]

There is a rally today. There were protests for over a week. The best you can hope for is some mask mandates and some at risk businesses voluntarily closing up shop. It's the wild, wild west boys and girls. Enjoy.

New Jersey and New York has had protests and rallies for the same amount of time and we have not seen a spike like Florida. I think it’s safe to say that protests and rallies arent causes the rise in cases.