GLP-1 Medications

[Neapolitan Ice Cream]

On the flip side, there are a bunch of links to say that the body DOES hoard fat supplies when denied input...

Ah well.

I don't know what or who to believe. You can get widly different informaiton depending on where you look.

I'll go with you.

 

[Tatebeck]

On the flip side, there are a bunch of links to say that the body DOES hoard fat supplies when denied input...

Ah well.

I don't know what or who to believe. You can get widly different informaiton depending on where you look.

I'll go with you.

Yeah, there is a lot of incorrect information out there, or correct information that is not correctly understood... You have to understand the whole picture, not just single one-liners

You can only hoard what you can get ahold of.

Analogy:
If you only have enough wood/materials to build 1 house and never get any more, you will only be able to build 1 house, no matter how hard you hoard your supplies and how hard you try to build houses.

But if you had enough supplies for 3 houses, but aren't hoarding your supplies, you can build 2 houses and still get rid of excess supplies.

 

[Neapolitan Ice Cream]

The annoying thing is, it makes so much sense that your body will hoarde whatever it can get when deprived of input. Now I have someone standing over my shoulder saying that I was right the first time. I don't want to take sides!

 

[Tatebeck]

The annoying thing is, it makes so much sense that your body will hoarde whatever it can get when deprived of input. Now I have someone standing over my shoulder saying that I was right the first time. I don't want to take sides!

Then they are confused or mistaken. It's fine. Many people misunderstand this stuff. They see one snippet or Tik-Tok and take it to be true when it's often someone who is confused as well and is just the first thing they read

 

[disneychrista]

I have debated asking my doctor about a GLP-1 but my main concern is the GI issues. I have seen people here mention nausea and maybe even vomiting but what about diarrhea? I have a functional disease that regularly causes issues in this department. I take medication daily to control it to a degree. I am concerned that taking a GLP-1 will make the issue worse. I of course will talk to my doctor about it but I am curious what others who are taking it have experienced.

 

[Tatebeck]

I have debated asking my doctor about a GLP-1 but my main concern is the GI issues. I have seen people here mention nausea and maybe even vomiting but what about diarrhea? I have a functional disease that regularly causes issues in this department. I take medication daily to control it to a degree. I am concerned that taking a GLP-1 will make the issue worse. I of course will talk to my doctor about it but I am curious what others who are taking it have experienced.

It can sometimes cause diarrhea, but it is usually more likely to cause constipation as it typically slows gastric emptying and digestion. Definitely talk to your DR and see if together you think it could be worth trying it out and weigh the risks/benefits

 

[disneychrista]

It can cause diarrhea, but it is usually more likely to cause constipation as it typically slows gastric emptying and digestion. Definitely talk to your DR and see if together you think it could be worth trying it out and weigh the risks/benefits

Do you have any experience with taking a GLP-1? I was asking for others experience with taking the medication.

 

[Tatebeck]

Do you have any experience with taking a GLP-1? I was asking for others experience with taking the medication.

I have not, though I have considered it and may in the future. Especially now that the pill versions have started releasing. But I am a healthcare professional who deals with them and counsels patients about them regularly

Others can of course share their own experiences and opinions, but everyone's body is different and what side effects one person has can be completely different from the next person.

 

[disneychrista]

I have not, though I have considered it and may in the future. But I am a healthcare professional who deals with them and counsels patients about them regularly

Others can of course share their own experiences and opinions, but everyone's body is different and what side effects one person has can be completely different from the next person.

I understand that. But sometimes hearing directly from others is helpful.

 

[Neapolitan Ice Cream]

Then they are confused or mistaken. It's fine. Many people misunderstand this stuff. They see one snippet or Tik-Tok and take it to be true when it's often someone who is confused as well and is just the first thing they read

Sigh, everyone is giving me conflicting informaiton. Most people tend to believe the weight gain thing. But who knows? Maybe tomorrow I shall do some proper research, not rely on individual people, Google, ChatGPT, people on the internet etc. No offence. I mean, I know you are invested in your opinion, but many hold the counter-opinion. And the internet is far from decisive.

I give up. Heck, who even cares any more? I'll stick to what I know best, affairs of the mind.

 

[Tatebeck]

Sigh, everyone is giving me conflicting informaiton. Most people tend to believe the weight gain thing. But who knows? Maybe tomorrow I shall do some proper research, not rely on individual people, Google, ChatGPT, people on the internet etc. No offence. I mean, I know you are invested in your opinion, but many hold the counter-opinion. And the internet is far from decisive.

I give up. Heck, who even cares any more? I'll stick to what I know best, affairs of the mind.

I definitely encourage you to do some more research. Educating oneself is always a good thing. Just make sure you look through entire actual journalistic articles or articles from real credible sources and not just pick single sentences out of AI overviews or a google search. This particular topic is often called "starvation mode" if you want to look for articles. Happy hunting!

If/once you read some you will see that I am correct. Long term starvation mode makes your body try to hold onto what it has left and can slow down weight loss, but does not make you gain more weight out of nowhere if you are still eating in a calorie deficit. That would defy the laws of physics.

The easiest extreme to see how this is true is that every long term anorexic patient that eats very little presents as wasting away to just skin and bones, because your body simply cannot make more mass and energy (fat/muscle) if you are not eating more mass and energy (calories) than you are expending.

 

[Neapolitan Ice Cream]

I definitely encourage you to do some more research. Educating oneself is always a good thing. Just make sure you look for actual journalistic articles or articles from real credible sources. This particular topic is often called "starvation mode" if you want to look for articles. Happy hunting!

If/once you read some you will see that I am correct. Starvation mode makes your body try to hold onto what it has left and can slow down weight loss, but does not make you gain more weight out of nowhere if you are still eating in a calorie deficit. That would defy the laws of physics.

The easiest extreme to see how this is true is that every long term anorexic patient that eats very little presents as wasting away to just skin and bones, because your body simply cannot make more mass and energy (fat/muscle) if you are not eating more mass and energy (calories) than you are expending.

No offence, but you could also be wrong… I mean, you're just an internet hashtag to me but the people around me are, well, people I know...

 

[Tatebeck]

No offence, but you could also be wrong… I mean, you're just an internet hashtag to me but the people around me are, well, people I know...

No offence taken, but I mean... I guess it's theoretically possible that I am incorrect, but it would mean that almost every data point we have gathered on the topic, every study that has been done, and almost every physicist, doctor, medical institution, university, scientist, etc. has also been wrong for just about all of human history. I like the odds of the side I am on.

This is basically equivalent to not believing in something like gravity or a spherical earth.

 

[Neapolitan Ice Cream]

No offence taken, but I mean... I guess it's theoretically possible that I am incorrect, but it would mean that almost every data point we have gathered on the topic, every study that has been done, and almost every physicist, doctor, medical institution, university, scientist, etc. has also been wrong for just about all of human history. I like the odds of the side I am on.

This is basically equivalent to not believing in something like gravity or a spherical earth.

I get it, it's not nice to be told there is even a tiny chance you are wrong. But tbh? Most of what I have read says you CAN put on weight on a low fat diet. And most of my friends say it is possible.

Don't worry, I won't take their word for it any more than I can take your word.

I'll leave you be Peace!

 

[Tatebeck]

I get it, it's not nice to be told there is even a tiny chance you are wrong. But tbh? Most of what I have read says you CAN put on weight on a low fat diet. And most of my friends say it is possible.

Don't worry, I won't take their word for it any more than I can take your word.

I'll leave you be Peace!

Huh? You can of course gain weight on a low fat diet, because you could still be eating too many calories from carbs and/or protein. Nowhere were we talking about a low fat diet specifically. I only spoke in total calories.

That is totally different than saying if you don't eat any calories at all that you can/will gain weight over time. Are you trolling or something?

 

[Neapolitan Ice Cream]

Huh? You can of course gain weight on a low fat diet, because you could still be eating too many calories from carbs and/or protein. Nowhere were we talking about a low fat diet specifically. I only spoke in total calories.

That is totally different than saying if you don't eat any calories at all that you can/will gain weight over time. Are you trolling or something?

I'm just saying, that given research I have conducted, the opinions of colleagues, elementary web searches and so on, it DOES appear that if you deprive your body of fat to extremes, your body will indeed go into overdrive and actually STORE fat.

You have a different opinion. And that's fine! No shame in that. But for some reason you seem determined to shame me. Are you trolling me?

 

[Tatebeck]

I'm just saying, that given research I have conducted, the opinions of colleagues, elementary web searches and so on, it DOES appear that if you deprive your body of fat to extremes, your body will indeed go into overdrive and actually STORE fat.

You have a different opinion. And that's fine! No shame in that. But for some reason you seem determined to shame me. Are you trolling me?

I agree with this bolded statement, but this is the first time you actually have said this. This is different from what we were talking about before.

If you deprive yourself of only fat, but eat a bunch of calories from carbs and protein, then yes your body can store the excess calories as fat, which it makes from those other extra nutrients.

If you overall are eating fewer calories from all sources (fats, carbs, and protein) than your body is burning daily, then your body will not have any excess energy to store as fat, it will use it all up running your body's day to day functions and activities, and you will end up losing weight and excess fat over time.

 

[Neapolitan Ice Cream]

I agree with this bolded statement, but this is the first time you actually have said this. This is different from what we were talking about before.

If you deprive yourself of only fat, but eat a bunch of calories from carbs and protein, then yes your body will store the excess calories as fat, which it makes from those other nutrients.

If you overall are eating fewer calories from all sources (fats, carbs, and protein) than your body is burning daily, then your body will not have any excess energy to store as fat, it will use it all up running your body's day to day functions and activities, and you will end up losing weight and excess fat over time.

So it was all just a silly misunderstanding?

 

[lanejudy]

@Neapolitan Ice Cream In all respect, you do seem to be confused and mixing up different types of diet. You started with "serious fasting" but are now talking about "a low fat diet" which are two completely different things. It's really not opinion, it's science. In addition to researching researching medical journals about different types of dieting, maybe a discussion with a nutritionist would help you understand the differences.


@disneychrista Both DH and DD take GLP-1 meds, though primary reason is diabetes and not the weight loss (which comes as an extra bonus). DH has zero side effects and has been on his med for probably 4-5 years now, at a high dose. DD is relatively new to it, low dose, but does get nausea and vomiting. She complains of stomach pain but I don't think it's manifested in diarrhea. However, different people will react differently to the same meds. I hope you have a positive discussion with your medical provider -- whether that ends in a trial of a GLP-1 or an understanding of how it may not be a good option for your specific health needs.

 

[Tatebeck]

So it was all just a silly misunderstanding?

I understood everything the entire time, but yes it appears you may not have.