Gap, Old Navy censor 'Christmas,'

[LuvDuke]

Let's face it - even a "Merry Christmas" isn't good enough, as it isn't specific as to the reason for the season. We should boycott any store that doesn't put up one of these:

You're getting warmer.

 

[oxfordcircus]

Although I celebrate Christmas, Jeason is NOT the reason for my season. So I am more then fine with the Happy Holidays. It seems to include everyone that celebrates a holiday this time of year regardless of their beliefs. There is no reason one branch of religion should dominate in this day and age.

Jeason? Who the heck is Jeason?

 

[orljustin]

Let's face it - even a "Merry Christmas" isn't good enough, as it isn't specific as to the reason for the season. We should boycott any store that doesn't put up one of these:

You are being sarcastic, right? Seeing a sign like that in a store, would make me turn away for life.

 

[beachblanket]

They are not afraid of the word Christmas.

Then why do they officially ban its use?

 

[beachblanket]

Some of you just aren't getting it...

Very few people are offended by being told "Happy Holidays". It's the so obvious and forced deletion of the word Christmas that annoys people. Aka: Not having a SINGLE reference to Christmas in the store as if it doesn't exist! It's the store that decides to make an ad and inserts (winter) or (holiday) into every place Christmas should be (Holiday Tree, Holiday Lights, Holiday Parade, Holiday Cookies, Holiday this, Holiday that without ONE specific mention of Christmas). Who do they think they're kidding? We all know what the stuff is for...and what purpose is this serving? Is anyone really offended/shocked/some other ridiculous emotion by seeing the word "Christmas" at a store or on a sign? No! They're simply bowing down to the tiny percentage of PC-crazy left-wingers. I know plenty of Jewish/Muslim/etc folks who really couldn't care less about Christmas decorations and stuff (actually..most of them enjoy seeing them). They realize North America has a Christian majority, Christmas is part of our culture, and they think it's just as ridiculous as the rest of us that a school can't even put up a Christmas tree (well...ours did...and the Jewish/Muslim/other kids liked it just as much as everyone else) anymore without the ACLU knocking at the door with a lawsuit. Actually...our school has Christmas decorations all over the place, and there are even a few Hanukah decorations too- they coexist peacefully. This is a much better approach then bowing to the libs who want Christmas hidden out of public view. I believe stores (as some are) should go back to the "Merry Christmas" approach and stop this ridiculous generic-movement.


As for the 'secular' Christmas parade...funny, and ridiculous. Maybe they should start 'secular' bible readings at schools now too?

BINGO!!!!

And to all the apologists for the PC "Happy Holiday" crap, all I have to say is

 

[Chloe'sMom]

BINGO!!!!

And to all the apologists for the PC "Happy Holiday" crap, all I have to say is

Then for the 200th time DON'T SHOP AT THOSE PLACES! This isn't hard - if you don't support their statements then don't buy their items - voice your opinion with the almight dollar and maybe they will start paying attention. But leave the rest of us who don't get offended by "happy holidays" alone!

Personally - I buy Christmas cards that say "Merry Christmas" on them because that is what I want to say. But I'm not going to put return to sender on a card from my Jewish friend that says "Happy Holidays" or from my Catholic cousin that says "Seasons Greetings!"

~Amanda

 

[poohandwendy]

And to all the apologists for the PC "Happy Holiday" crap, all I have to say is

LOL, whattheheckever.

My Christian 'world' is not rocked so easily. I just do not see this as the beginning of my beliefs being shunned or even disrespected.

You do. Ok, all the power to ya.

 

[Aidensmom]

I don't think it really matters if a store has a holiday sale or a Christmas sale. If you are buying gifts for Hanukah, are you really going to say "Oh, well this store is having a Christmas sale, so I can't buy this for a Hanukah gift"? If you are buying gifts for Christmas, does it have to be spelled out to you what specific holiday an item can be bought for?

I shop at President's Day sales, I'm not buying gifts for Presidents.

I think there is probably a very small percent of the population that actually gets offended by a store circular or advertising, one way or the other. The issue just gets blown out of proportion by things like the media and the internet.

Though I don't care if Happy Holidays is used, I do think it is a bit weird to feel that we HAVE to say "holiday". Isn't this country about embracing our differences? As a Christian, I am not in the least going to be offended by someone wishing me Happy Kwaanza or selling items for Hanukah, that is what people celebrate. If someone is offended by someone advertising Christmas cards, well, that is their problem. I think we should all be able to take pride in whatever particular holiday we celebrate and not be so self-involved that we can't just accept that everyone else is not just like us.

 

[poohandwendy]

Though I don't care if Happy Holidays is used, I do think it is a bit weird to feel that we HAVE to say "holiday".

i don't really feel like I have to say "Happy Holidays" And I really do not think most people get offended if you pass along a greeting that does not correspond with their particular beliefs. I know I don't.

The interesting thing is that all of this hoopla is caused by the vocal minority (of all different beliefs) that get up in arms about the whole thing. It is not just non-christians making a big deal of it (this thread is an example)

To me, it's not a big deal one way or the other.

 

[Planogirl]

Geesh, I'm just happy when a salesperson is friendly. I don't care whether they say "Merry Christmas", "Happy Holidays" or "Buy More" (subliminally of course). It's the thought that counts or does no one remember that concept?

 

[MoniqueU]

Jeason? Who the heck is Jeason?

You know that has to be one of my worst typing errors ever. Sorry, I meant JESUS. Someone will probably read this thread though and name their baby Jeason.

 

[fabshelly]

Actually, right now, it's Advent. So, they're not good Christians if they don't say "Happy Advent".

Christmas doesn't officially start until Dec. 24 at sundown, and ends 12 days later.

It's a war against Advent!

 

[oxfordcircus]

You know that has to be one of my worst typing errors ever. Sorry, I meant JESUS. Someone will probably read this thread though and name their baby Jeason.

After I posted this, I thought maybe Jaeson was some alternate spelling or something, so I googled it. Turns out, lots of people are named Jaeson.

 

[Fitswimmer]

Actually, right now, it's Advent. So, they're not good Christians if they don't say "Happy Advent".

Christmas doesn't officially start until Dec. 24 at sundown, and ends 12 days later.

It's a war against Advent!

Very true. As a kid I always thought it was odd that all the Christmas music stopped DEAD on the 26th when I knew Christmas wasn't over. My Dad told me that the stores stopped playing the music once they had all our money.

 

[Mrs.Toad]

i don't really feel like I have to say "Happy Holidays"

I don't either, I choose to when I don't know what holiday a person celebrates, or when I'm addressing a group of people of different faiths. People who assume that I'm doing it out of fear are dead wrong.

And I really do not think most people get offended if you pass along a greeting that does not correspond with their particular beliefs. I know I don't.

The interesting thing is that all of this hoopla is caused by the vocal minority (of all different beliefs) that get up in arms about the whole thing. It is not just non-christians making a big deal of it (this thread is an example)

Yea, and I'll take that a step further and say that I've seen a much bigger deal being made over "holiday" by this small group of Christians, than I've ever seen made over "Christmas" by non-Christians.

 

[Oreo Cookie]

It does not matter to me what percentages are represented, it's up to businesses to decide their own Pr.

All Christians who have a problem with it can put their money where their mouth is and not patronize any business that has taken Christ out of their Christmas shopping.

And the rest of us can just enjoy our Christmas holiday.

I don't care what businesses do, I have a choice in where I shop.

I agree 100%. I celebrate Christmas and I'm okay with merchants wishing me a Happy Holiday. If you don't like it, then shop somewhere else. There are so many places to shop.

If you are Christian, then you are in the majority, you don't know how it feels to be wished a Merry Christmas when that is no a holiday you celebrate. I do feel the holidays should be an inclusive time. If I know someone celebrates Christmas, I wish them a Merry Christmas, and if I know someone celebrate Chanukkah, I wish them a Happy Chanukkah, and if they celebrate nothing during December, I wish them a happy and healthy new year.

Also, I don't think Christmas Shopping and stores choosing to decorate has anything to do with Christ. It has to do with the almighty dollar, and generating as much business during the holiday season as possible.

 

[pansmermaidzlagoon]

I just checked out the AFA's ban list. They are not just going after retailers that do not use the word Christmas at all - they are going after retailers that do not use it enough(!!!!) or sometimes use "holiday" where they could use "Christmas"!!!! They are not just trying to get them to include "Christmas" - but force them FROM using the more inclusive alternatives!!!!!

Lowe's had one sign for Christmas trees - another stating Holiday trees.
Staples and Kmart used Christmas a couple times, but holiday more.

So they are trying to force the use of "Christmas" exclusively rather than working against its total ban.

What a joke! - and scary!

 

[Crankyshank]

Do non Catholic Christians celebrate Advent?

 

[Jrsy Boy]

Do non Catholic Christians celebrate Advent?

Episcopalians celebrate advent, but I think Episcopalianism is not that far from Catholicism. The church that I attend on Christmas Eve and Easter is non-denominational Christian and does light Advent candles.

 

[Fitswimmer]

I know that it was mentioned at my Dad's Baptist church when I was a kid, but they didn't make a big deal out of it.

Here's another question-do non-believers celebrate Easter like they do Christmas? There is a huge secular component to Christmas and many celebrate Yule, which doesn't have anything to do with Jesus. Is there a comparable Spring celebration? The commercialism hasn't reached the same proportions for the Easter season, so it doesn't seem to inspire much outrage on either side.