Gabby Petito

stories in media from at least 1 witness that Briand and Gabby were in a restaurant in Jackson on 8/27 at lunchtime, and he got mad over something and started yelling at the server, hostess and manager (all of whom were women). the restaurant confirms they were present but won't say anything else. FBI has info.

On this trip he's definitely showing a hair trigger temper.
 
As far as Brian being missing, we had a case in Pennsylvania several years ago where a guy went to a state police barracks and ambushed two PA state policemen,,one of the state police were killed (Brian Dickson) and one was severely injured. The suspect (Eric Frein) was on the run literally for close to 45 days with search dogs and state policemen out looking for him and he managed to hide for close to 45 days (he had survivalist skills)--they finally found him probably 5 miles from the scene of the crime (Blooming Grove barracks) so it is possible that he is still in the same vicinity and just holed up hiding somewhere. Not saying that is what is reality but it could be. Everyone in our area was on edge because you never knew if he was anywhere near your home. Unfortunately, the trooper that was killed left two young boys who now have to grow up without their dad. So it is possible that Brian is still alive and he may have someone either hiding him or helping him and if he has survival skills, he could be anywhere...even close to his home.
 
As far as Brian being missing, we had a case in Pennsylvania several years ago where a guy went to a state police barracks and ambushed two PA state policemen,,one of the state police were killed (Brian Dickson) and one was severely injured. The suspect (Eric Frein) was on the run literally for close to 45 days with search dogs and state policemen out looking for him and he managed to hide for close to 45 days (he had survivalist skills)--they finally found him probably 5 miles from the scene of the crime (Blooming Grove barracks) so it is possible that he is still in the same vicinity and just holed up hiding somewhere. Not saying that is what is reality but it could be. Everyone in our area was on edge because you never knew if he was anywhere near your home. Unfortunately, the trooper that was killed left two young boys who now have to grow up without their dad. So it is possible that Brian is still alive and he may have someone either hiding him or helping him and if he has survival skills, he could be anywhere...even close to his home.

This is why the extensive search of the nature preserve is being undertaken. They must have pretty good evidence that he is hiding there.
 
Sounds like they’re thinking he might have had something to do with the deaths of the other 2 people out there in Moab…
 

This is why the extensive search of the nature preserve is being undertaken. They must have pretty good evidence that he is hiding there.
If the parents pointed them there and it turns out he went somewhere else, they need to be billed for the price of the search.
 
Sounds like they’re thinking he might have had something to do with the deaths of the other 2 people out there in Moab…
Where did you get that? The Moab Police Department issued a statement saying he was NOT involved, and the parents of the girls killed have said they resent social media trying to tie the cases together. They say it minimizes their daughters' deaths.
 
I think if she was deceased, if my son told me it was a horrible accident after the parents told us she was missing, and the lawyer said to say nothing, I’d listen to the lawyer. As a mother of sons and daughters, I can mentally insert myself on either side. I’d do anything to protect my son, and I’d be ready to strangle them if it was my daughter.

My husband & I were talking about Gabby & Brian last night.

We have both a daughter & a son in their very early twenties.

And we agreed.

If we were Gabby’s parents, we would have been camped out in Brian’s family’s driveway, demanding & pleading for answers. My husband said he probably would have ended up arrested.

If we were BrIan’s parents, it’s muddier. I think, for me, it depends on what Brian told his parents & when.

There was a recent homicide case in northeast Florida in which a teenage boy brutally stabbed a teenage girl multiple times. If I’m remembering the details correctly, there’s a video of his mom washing the blood out of her son’s jeans in an attempt to get rid of the evidence.

That kind of situation, I know myself, & I’m absolutely turning my son in to the authorities.

But, if I’m BrIan’s mom, I really do think it depends on what he told me happened, how it happened, when he told me, & what the lawyer was advising us. And, depending on various things & perceptions, I could see myself believing my son in a couple of different scenarios.

I don’t think any of us really know what we’d do in a situation until we’re there in that situation While we may like to think we’d always act & react sensibly & logically & ethically, panic & fear can change everything. And I think things have a way of escalating & snowballing until we we’re so far in it’s hard to get out. One decision or choice leads to another choice & then another, & it gets messy really quickly… and maybe what you thought you’d never do you end up doing.

And never underestimate a parent’s love for their child & loyalty to that child. Or what panic & fear for your child will lead you to do.

For me, also, I really wonder, not only about the relationship between Brian & Gabby, but also about their relationship w/ their families & the relationship the families had w/ each other. What led Brian & Gabby to living w/ BrIan’s parents… were her parents okay w/ Gabby living w/ Brian’s family in Florida. Did the families have a good relationship w/ each other?

As we were discussing the situation last night, my husband pointed out that Brian has made things so much worse for his family. Maybe they have been willing participants in whatever all along, but, in choosing to involve his parents, Brian has irrevocably changed their lives for forever.

Gabby’s parents‘ lives too, of course, have tragically been changed forever, but in a completely different way than Brian’s family.
 
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Sounds like they’re thinking he might have had something to do with the deaths of the other 2 people out there in Moab…

I'm not seeing that anywhere. They ARE opening up an investigation into the traffic stop in Moab, and looking more closely at how that was handled.
 
I was wondering if this was a self-defense scenario, but my wife and I were talking about this yesterday. If Brian did kill Gabby in self-defense, the smart thing to do would be to go to the cops immediately. Show the wounds she inflicted on you. You already have that Utah police report. I think it's more likely that he was the abuser (or they both were), and he killed her just becuase.
 
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My husband & I were talking about Gabby & Brian last night.

We have both a daughter & a son in their very early twenties.

And we agreed.

If we were Gabby’s parents, we would have been camped out in Brian’s family’s driveway, demanding & pleading for answers. My husband said he probably would have ended up arrested.

If we were BrIan’s parents, it’s muddier. I think, for me, it depends on what Brian told his parents & when.

There was a recent homicide case in northeast Florida in which a teenage boy brutally stabbed a teenage girl multiple times. If I’m remembering the details correctly, there’s a video of his mom washing the blood out of her son’s jeans in an attempt to get rid of the evidence.

That kind of situation, I know myself, & I’m absolutely turning my son in to the authorities.

But, if I’m BrIan’s mom, I really do think it depends on what he told me happened, how it happened, when he told me, & what the lawyer was advising us. And, depending on various things & perceptions, I could see myself believing my son in a couple of different scenarios.

I don’t think any of us really know what we’d do in a situation until we’re there in that situation While we may like to think we’d always act & react sensibly & logically & ethically, panic & fear can change everything. And I think things have a way of escalating & snowballing until we we’re so far in it’s hard to get out. One decision or choice leads to another choice & then another, & it gets messy really quickly… and maybe what you thought you’d never do you end up doing.

And never underestimate a parent’s love for their child & loyalty to that child.

For me, also, I really wonder, not only about the relationship between Brian & Gabby, but also about their relationship w/ their families & the relationship the families had w/ each other. What led Brian & Gabby to living w/ BrIan’s parents… were her parents okay w/ Gabby living w/ Brian’s family in Florida. Did the families have a good relationship w/ each other?

As we were discussing the situation last night, my husband pointed out that Brian has made things so much worse for his family. Maybe they have been willing participants in whatever all along, but, in choosing to involve his parents, Brian has irrevocably changed their lives for forever.

Gabby’s parents‘ lives too, of course, have tragically been changed forever, but in a completely different way than Brian’s family.

I am with you on wondering how close Gabby was to her parents, why she was living with Brian's family rather than the other way around, and why her parents didn't just simply get on a plane and fly down to the Laundrie house the minute they found out Brian returned without her, or as soon as they started getting no response from the messages they were sending asking about Gabby. Presumably they knew where she had been living for the last 2 years? Why didn't they head down there? It's all very weird. I am also still not understanding how or why it took so long to declare her a missing person in the first place. Wasn't she not considered officially missing until Sept 11. That's like 2 weeks since they had last heard from her! What was going on in all that time?
 
I saw some mention of a lot of people
trying to get their “fifteen minutes of fame” from being associated with this case or providing helpful or “critical” information, etc. I think a lot of it is being taken with a grain of salt. Some have posted on social media before going to police. Im sure law enforcement has a lot to sort through.
 
I saw some mention of a lot of people
trying to get their “fifteen minutes of fame” from being associated with this case or providing helpful or “critical” information, etc. I think a lot of it is being taken with a grain of salt. Some have posted on social media before going to police. Im sure law enforcement has a lot to sort through.
True, but some of that is just the self-absorption of the person doing the posting. It's not that they don't want to help, but "It's all about me, me, me. I'll go to the police after I get my likes and re-tweets."

We've also had a couple of fundraising press conferences by "advocates." I guess it's just the way of the world these days.
 
Wasn't she not considered officially missing until Sept 11. That's like 2 weeks since they had last heard from her! What was going on in all that time?
I mentioned that earlier on in the thread. Someone said in response "her parents didn't know he was back in FL until 9/10 and then reported her missing the next day." Which yes that would make sense they reported her missing the next day but it always stuck in my mind the lack of communication Gabby had with her parents. I don't think the police could have done much but I would have been going down to the police station if I had these concerns about it just to say "hey I haven't heard from my daughter for a few days (based on when she last heard from her) she said no signal but I'm still concerned" you know something like that. It would have at least had an awareness of the parents feeling off. I also have been wondering lately did the mom actively try to call her phone? Or was it just texting?
 
Kylen Schulte's father thinks that the local sheriff's office should bring in the FBI due to the proximity of the murders in Moab to the presence of Petito and Laundrie. If the cases are unrelated, there would not be jurisdiction for the FBI. But there's no indication that the sheriff's department (if that's who "they" refers to) is now saying the cases could be related. Apparently the father doesn't think much of the way the sheriff's office is handling the investigation.

Based on what the female park ranger who responded to the Moab traffic stop said, Gabby was distressed over being separated from Brian even though the ranger tried to talk to her about maybe rethinking the relationship. She may have felt very dependent on Brian, it wouldn't be unusual. She moved a long way to be with him and lived in his parents' home for more than two years. Not sure her family was thrilled with that. Her father and stepmother lived in Vero Beach and he supposedly moved there to be closer to his daughter. Vero Beach is still about 160 miles from Sarasota.
 
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True, but some of that is just the self-absorption of the person doing the posting. It's not that they don't want to help, but "It's all about me, me, me. I'll go to the police after I get my likes and re-tweets."

We've also had a couple of fundraising press conferences by "advocates." I guess it's just the way of the world these days.
That's why I was talking about that friend that had that news story. The very last thing on my mind if either of my best friends I have is missing is to report the information first to a news outlet especially with information such as a missed phone call and that being unlike her. I've known both of my best friends for over 20 years and just no way am I going to the media first. The one and only scenario I can see that is if the police are uncooperative/disinterested but I've seen no indication whatsoever that this is the case with Gabby even back when that news article came out.
 
I don't know if it's a generational thing, but I was thinking about whether my own parents would do it for me and I can say without a doubt, absolutely NOT. No way. They were very much about, "you made your bed, now lie in it" lol. I couldn't imagine them actually helping me run off if they think I murdered someone. If they thought I was innocent they would probably think the law would go the right way and I would be proven innocent bc they were more optimists than pessimists, maybe even people that lived in denial of things.
 
Have we discussed the pictures of Brian’s bedroom (after he went missing), some of the books he was reading, and some of his Pinterest posts? Wasn’t sure if I missed it. Thought some of our posters familiar with these types of books and posts could chime in.
 
I don't know if it's a generational thing, but I was thinking about whether my own parents would do it for me and I can say without a doubt, absolutely NOT. No way. They were very much about, "you made your bed, now lie in it" lol. I couldn't imagine them actually helping me run off if they think I murdered someone. If they thought I was innocent they would probably think the law would go the right way and I would be proven innocent bc they were more optimists than pessimists, maybe even people that lived in denial of things.

This is interesting, and I think people's perceptions of the law and the justice system are also shaped by their own personal experiences, race, location, etc. I know there are a lot of small towns with crooked cops, or areas where specific races are likely to be treated unfairly, and that all plays into things.

I have heard that Brian's mother formerly worked for a DA. So, that adds another twist. Maybe she knows more about the inner workings and how to navigate this kind of situation to their advantage? Maybe she is corrupt and made a deal up the chain? Who knows?
 
I don't know if it's a generational thing, but I was thinking about whether my own parents would do it for me and I can say without a doubt, absolutely NOT. No way. They were very much about, "you made your bed, now lie in it" lol. I couldn't imagine them actually helping me run off if they think I murdered someone. If they thought I was innocent they would probably think the law would go the right way and I would be proven innocent bc they were more optimists than pessimists, maybe even people that lived in denial of things.

That’s interesting to think about…

I think my mom (who is in her mid 70s) would help me proverbially “bury a body.”

My dad, on the other hand (who is also in his mid 70s) would probably want me to turn myself in but wouldn’t do it himself - I don’t think, maybe he would though. My dad is a very ethical/do the right thing, no matter what kind of man.

Even if dad didn’t turn me into authorities, he wouldn’t help me get away or cover up anything, while I think my mom actually would.

Both are Christian, live morally, & believe in “right vs. wrong.” However, I think my mom would put her love & loyalty to me over anything else.
 





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