Gabby Petito

[DLgal]

Have we discussed the pictures of Brian’s bedroom (after he went missing), some of the books he was reading, and some of his Pinterest posts? Wasn’t sure if I missed it. Thought some of our posters familiar with these types of books and posts could chime in.

I think this is likely a nothing burger. People read all kinds of books and it doesn't mean anything. Art is often dark and violent and full of meaning, but sometimes it's just art. Gabby also was reading a book about a serial killer during this trip. So, if you are going to project personality traits onto Brian based on the books he read, or the art he liked/drew, then you have to be willing to do the same for Gabby.

I am a voracious reader. I read about ALL kinds of things. I would hate for my book collection to somehow justify anything about how I conduct my life because I am nothing like the books I read in real life. They're just books.

A lot of people seem hung up on the fact that he liked to draw Hellboy (from the comics) and other violent cartoon characters. Well, didn't someone else draw them first?

It's a weird thing to fixate on. It's like saying that people who like the horror genre of movies are all psycho serial killers.

 

[DLgal]

That’s interesting to think about…

I think my mom (who is in her mid 70s) would help me proverbially “bury a body.”

My dad, on the other hand (who is also in his mid 70s) would probably want me to turn myself in but wouldn’t do it himself - I don’t think, maybe he would though. My dad is a very ethical/do the right thing, no matter what kind of man.

Even if dad didn’t turn me into authorities, he wouldn’t help me get away or cover up anything, while I think my mom actually would.

Both are Christian, live morally, & believe in “right vs. wrong.” However, I think my mom would put her love & loyalty to me over anything else.

My parents are both in their mid 70s as well and would both turn me in in a SECOND. They would straight up disown me for much less than murder. I know this because my mom said as much when my sister was on a bad path as a teenager.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

I'm not prepared to think Brian's choice of art or reading material is currently relevant. Daily Mail felt it necessary to point out that he had a Darth Vader helmet in his bedroom. Maybe he also wanted to rule the galaxy?

 

[Wendy31]

My parents are both in their mid 70s as well and would both turn me in in a SECOND. They would straight up disown me for much less than murder. I know this because my mom said as much when my sister was on a bad path as a teenager.

The more I think about it, the more I’m not sure… it’s a really interesting question to me.

I‘m texting my sister to see what she says & then I’ll probably ask my mom the next time I talk to her.

I really do think my mom would help me - depending on the specifics. If I straight up murder someone, no. But, if I found myself in some kind of domestic violence situation in which one thing led to another, & I convince my mom that I accidentally killed the person, I could really see her believing me & then helping me.

Of course, I’m saying this as a daughter… so it’s not the same because I think it’d be easier to convince my parents, as a daughter & woman, that I was the victim in the situation &, in an escalating situation, I was defending myself & accidentally killed my partner.

I don’t know… but, depending on one’s parents, things might be different for a son who would be presumably bigger & stronger than a female partner?

 

[VandVsmama]

Several pages back, somebody posted a link to a video interview between Dr. Phil and Gabby's father. I didn't watch the entire video, but Gabby's father said that he purposely would call Brian by "Brianna" instead of his actual name whenever Gabby's father was around Brian. My gut reaction to that was, "Wow, you're a ****!"

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I'm not prepared to think Brian's choice of art or reading material is currently relevant. Daily Mail felt it necessary to point out that he had a Darth Vader helmet in his bedroom. Maybe he also wanted to rule the galaxy?

Alrighty then

I guess he didn’t need the handgun for anything.

 

[JimMIA]

If you are going to post something like that then you need to post a source.

Yes, it's helpful to do so. Here's the info about the Moab police saying there is no connection between the two cases: https://kutv.com/news/local/investi...-gabby-petito-search-and-murdered-moab-couple

 

[TipsyTraveler]

More of my musings now that I’ve had a night to mull this over.

Like the good Internet stalker I am, I looked up the location of the license plate reader that picked up the white van returning to North Port, Fl on the morning of Sept 1st. It’s on one of the roads entering the neighborhood where he, Gabby, and his parents lived.

I’m assuming this license plate reader is similar, if not the same, to the Flock security system my neighborhood has. It works by taking rapid-fire photos of every vehicle that enters and exits. Our HOA and local police have access to the logs. If a known-stolen vehicle passes the camera, the police are automatically notified. The records can be searched by vehicle make, model, color, time & date, etc. by those who have access to the system. When there was an incident in my neighborhood that had me posting “Does anybody recognize this car?” on Nextdoor, my HOA checked the Flock records and gave me a crystal clear image of the license plate number to take to the police within an hour of my post.

All that to say, if Brian’s parents helped stage his disappearance at the Carlton preserve on Sept 14th, the police/FBI must already know this, so long as every entrance/exit to their neighborhood has one of these camera systems. So, let’s say they smuggled Brian out of the area during their camping trip on Sept 11-13 and then drove his car to the preserve on the 14th. To drop the car and get back home, both parents would’ve needed to be involved. (Unless one person drove the car out and caught an Uber to get back home, but that seems risky to me.) The camera would’ve picked up Brian’s mustang and one of the parents’ vehicles leaving the neighborhood, but only one returning.

Brian’s parents left home this morning and returned with his mustang before turning around and heading right back out. They have a police escort following them now. Can any of our DIS legal eagles weigh in and tell me why they might have an escort? Is it for their safety because of the high-profile nature of the case, or does it indicate concerns about them being a flight risk? Can one even be a flight risk if there are no charges against them?

 

[MakiraMarlena]

A handgun is not art or reading material. That said, does anyone know for sure if it was a real gun? If it was, was he licensed to own it? Did he take it along on his trip, and did the police take it? the fact that he had a gun hanging on the wall in his room may not be relevant either, we don't know since they haven't released the cause of death for the victim yet.

 

[TipsyTraveler]

Several pages back, somebody posted a link to a video interview between Dr. Phil and Gabby's father. I didn't watch the entire video, but Gabby's father said that he purposely would call Brian by "Brianna" instead of his actual name whenever Gabby's father was around Brian. My gut reaction to that was, "Wow, you're a ****!"

I read something about that, too. He said he had never liked any of Gabby’s boyfriends and always called them girls names “to intimidate them.” So, yeah. Sounds like Gabby may not have had the best male role models in her life. Wouldn’t be surprising at all if she ended up with a loser for a partner.

 

[LSUmiss]

That’s interesting to think about…

I think my mom (who is in her mid 70s) would help me proverbially “bury a body.”

My dad, on the other hand (who is also in his mid 70s) would probably want me to turn myself in but wouldn’t do it himself - I don’t think, maybe he would though. My dad is a very ethical/do the right thing, no matter what kind of man.

Even if dad didn’t turn me into authorities, he wouldn’t help me get away or cover up anything, while I think my mom actually would.

Both are Christian, live morally, & believe in “right vs. wrong.” However, I think my mom would put her love & loyalty to me over anything else.

I think it might just depend on the person too like we are seeing in this thread. My mom (66)wouldn’t, but she’s also always been very self-absorbed so it would be more about how it affected her vs morality. My dad on the other hand (who would be 67 if still alive), would have done anything for me. He wouldn’t be happy about lol & I would get lectures & complaints, but he would do it.

 

[GreatLakes]

For me, also, I really wonder, not only about the relationship between Brian & Gabby, but also about their relationship w/ their families & the relationship the families had w/ each other. What led Brian & Gabby to living w/ BrIan’s parents… were her parents okay w/ Gabby living w/ Brian’s family in Florida. Did the families have a good relationship w/ each other?

I've wondered this all along. Didn't she live with them during high school? I'm trying to imagine a scenario where I let my kid live with a different family in a different state (aren't her parents in NY and his FL?) and I'm coming up blank. If they moved to NY her senior year I could see maybe letting her stay just to finish out at her school but I'm also curious about how she came to live with her boyfriend while in high school.

 

[Sinder]

I've wondered this all along. Didn't she live with them during high school? I'm trying to imagine a scenario where I let my kid live with a different family in a different state (aren't her parents in NY and his FL?) and I'm coming up blank. If they moved to NY her senior year I could see maybe letting her stay just to finish out at her school but I'm also curious about how she came to live with her boyfriend while in high school.

They both graduated from the same HS in Long Island. Where did you read that she lived with them during HS? I read that when she graduated she moved in with him and his family.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

Gabby's mother and stepfather live in New York where she grew up. Her father and stepmother live in Florida, but apparently didn't move there until after she did. Not sure when Brian's parents went to live in Florida. She has five younger siblings and was attending the HS graduation of one of them before they left on their cross-country van trip - they left from NY.

They weren't still in high school when they moved to Florida together, they had both graduated and were both legal adults. At that point, they could live where they pleased.

 

[FQLover]

I absolutely do not see this as a 180 choice for a parent: conspire to help cover up a murder or accidental death OR "turn your back on your child."

I raised my daughter to always consider, "What is the right thing to do?" Unless you are a sociopath, your conscience will tell you what is right and you need to listen to it. In this case, it would be to come back, tell the police and your fiance's family what happened, with our hired lawyer present, and we move forward from there. I would never turn my back. I would be there to offer love, support and, if necessary, forgiveness.

But my own conscience would direct me what to do, if my child refused to listen to hers. I would tell her that I was going to do what she wouldn't, and that is tell the police where they can find her. I would much rather talk her into coming with me to the police station, however.

I guess it depends on how much of your child-rearing has been geared toward teaching about morals, integrity, listening to your conscience, accepting responsibility, being willing to do the hard thing because it is the right thing, etc. If a lot of it has been, how big of a hypocrite are you going to be? Doesn't mean that this wouldn't be very, very wrenching for a parent to do, though.

 

[leeniewdw]

It also depends on what he claimed happened to Gabby (presuming he told them something). Did he say she left him and after x number of days he drove home?

It's a horrific situation, but would be tricky to navigate as a parent if your child is telling you a story and you have to take actions because you just don't believe them. That's giving them the biggest benefit of the doubt, but still a possibility.

 

[GreatLakes]

They both graduated from the same HS in Long Island. Where did you read that she lived with them during HS? I read that when she graduated she moved in with him and his family.

Gabby's mother and stepfather live in New York where she grew up. Her father and stepmother live in Florida, but apparently didn't move there until after she did. Not sure when Brian's parents went to live in Florida. She has five younger siblings and was attending the HS graduation of one of them before they left on their cross-country van trip - they left from NY.

They weren't still in high school when they moved to Florida together, they had both graduated and were both legal adults. At that point, they could live where they pleased.

My mistake. I thought I read that they were high school sweethearts that were living together. Either it was wrong or two thoughts I combined.

I wouldn't have want to move in with a significant other than their family when I was in my early 20's but different strokes.

 

[mjkacmom]

My mistake. I thought I read that they were high school sweethearts that were living together. Either it was wrong or two thoughts I combined.

They were high school sweethearts in high school on Long Island, graduated and at some point moved to Florida.

 

[tinkerdorabelle]

My parents are both in their mid 70s as well and would both turn me in in a SECOND. They would straight up disown me for much less than murder. I know this because my mom said as much when my sister was on a bad path as a teenager.

Yes mine are definitely like that too. They are very straight and narrow and they expect us to be like that, tho my brother got away with stuff but that's bc he was manipulative lol. But no way would they ever help me in this situation and would expect me to face the consequences.

 

[Wendy31]

I think it might just depend on the person too like we are seeing in this thread. My mom (66)wouldn’t, but she’s also always been very self-absorbed so it would be more about how it affected her vs morality. My dad on the other hand (who would be 67 if still alive), would have done anything for me. He wouldn’t be happy about lol & I would get lectures & complaints, but he would do it.

Yes, while I think (& I could be wrong) my mother would cover for me & possibly even assist me, she would NEVER let me forget it & would complain & lecture & bring it up & hold it over me for the rest of her life.