Funeral Mass Question

[WebmasterMaryJo]

I think that God realizes that in 2000 years that there'd be a lot of differing opinions....

My opinion is that His Grace will take care of that for us.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by pumba
Other Christians and Communion


The guidelines for receiving Communion, which are issued by the U.S. bishops and published in many missalettes, explain, "We welcome our fellow Christians to this celebration of the Eucharist as our brothers and sisters. We pray that our common baptism and the action of the Holy Spirit in this Eucharist will draw us closer to one another and begin to dispel the sad divisions which separate us. We pray that these will lessen and finally disappear, in keeping with Christ’s prayer for us ‘that they may all be one’ (John 17:21).


so does this mean people can recieve or not?????????????

I would say that you can recieve if you so desire.

 

[Lanshark]

I think that God realizes that in 2000 years that there'd be a lot of differing opinions....

My opinion is that His Grace will take care of that for us.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

However, you do not believe that the communion wafer is the sacred body of Christ, right?

Wrong, Episcopalians most certainly do believe that.

 

[Mercy]

Originally posted by GAIL HAYDEN
Wrong, Episcopalians most certainly do believe that.

Since when does the Episcopal church believe in trans-substantiation?

 

[mariessas_mom]

My dad just passed away and at his funeral mass we had family from my mom's side that are baptist. We told them to do what they comfortable doing as far as kneeling, standing, etc. However, only Catholics should receive communion.

 

[6_Time_Momma]

Originally posted by Mercy
Since when does the Episcopal church believe in trans-substantiation?

I wondered the same thing.

 

[JerseyJanice]

You want to know something funny? I, in stating that I was a practicing Catholic, have had people of the Baptist, Assemblies of God, and Jehovah's Witness faiths tell me that my Church was an evil faith because It worshiped men and graven images over God. Also that I, like all Catholics, would be damned for my beliefs.

Personally, I don't think it's up to anybody I've ever met on Earth to decide who is going to Heaven and who isn't.

No offense to anybody here, but Communion in the Catholic Church is a Sacrament--a sacred and precious experience with God. Do other Christian faiths even have Sacraments?

I'm not saying that the Catholic faith is superior to other Christian faiths (although let's face facts--it is THE original one) for having Sacraments, but we believe Sacraments are a special part of our relationship on Earth with God. It's why we have them--they don't exist just to show other Christians up.

The Sacraments of the Catholic Church are Baptism, Reconciliation (Confession), the Eucharist, Confirmation, Marriage, Ordination, Exorcism, and Last Rites. All of these take preparation (except for Last Rites), have rules and guidelines, and are not dispensed lightly.

The Eucharist is particularly special because it can be received almost daily. The others are pretty much a once-in-a-lifetime experience. (Especially Ordination and even more so Exorcism--name one person you know who has received that Sacrament .)

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

The Sacraments of the Catholic Church are Baptism, Reconciliation (Confession), the Eucharist, Confirmation, Marriage, Ordination, Exorcism, and Last Rites. All of these take preparation (except for Last Rites), have rules and guidelines, and are not dispensed lightly.

The Episcopalian/Church of England has 7 of the above. We don't have Exorcism.

 

[Dan Murphy]

I only was taught these seven, throughout my 13 years of parochial schooling. Never learned about the exorcist one.

http://www.americancatholic.org/Features/Sacraments/default.asp

 

[BWVDee]

Non Catholics not being able to take communion I knew about, but one thing I have noticed at Catholic funerals, weddings, etc lately is that some people do not kneel and stand with the congregation. I am not talking about an older or a disabled person, either. What is up with that? Frankly, I get very offended at this. Certain parts of the Mass are very sacred and I can not believe some would sit during the consecreation while the rest of the congregation is kneeling. I feel when you are in a place of worship different from your own, you should respect their beliefs, as someone else pointed out, if someone went to a Jewish temple and was required to sit seperated by men and women, it would be very disrespectful not to respect their beliefs and follow their rulings while in their place of worship.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by Mercy
Since when does the Episcopal church believe in trans-substantiation?

Since the Church of England began. We do belive that the host and wine become the body and blood of Christ.
Have you ever read the Book of Common Prayer?

 

[SpecialK]

Just read all of the entries on this thread and can't help thinking that religion is becoming more divisive than uniting...

Born and bred Roman Catholic, attended Catholic school through high school and taught in a Catholic school for 15 years. I can state unequivocally that exorcism is NOT a sacrament. The seven sacraments are: Baptism, Eucharist, Reconciliation, Confirmation, Marriage (that's why Catholic weddings are required to be held in a church), Holy Orders and Annointing of the Sick.

As far as being told that Catholics are the devil's spawn, I'd guess that people of all religions have had the same type of experience. Such statements are usually made by people who don't fully understand their own religion, let alone someone else's.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

I'm not saying that the Catholic faith is superior to other Christian faiths (although let's face facts--it is THE original one) for having Sacraments, but we believe Sacraments are a special part of our relationship on Earth with God. It's why we have them--they don't exist just to show other Christians up.

No it is not. The Christian religion is the oldest.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/first/diversity.html

I was taught the same Sacraments and they are extreamly important to me for my relationship with the Holy Trinity.

 

[KimRaye]

Originally posted by JerseyJanice
Do other Christian faiths even have Sacraments?

Lutherans do.

 

[WhenUwishUponAstar]

All of this talk of communion got me to thinking....

Since Catholics are not submersed in baptism, does the Christian church recognize this as a baptism and should they accept communion in the Christian church?? Also are they required to be submersed when they decide to join?

I'm not asking for practicing RC's per say more in question about a RC that s entertaining the idea of changing to a Christian church.

I know I should probably know the answer to this question but I'm fairly new to church and am learning as fast as I can.

Thanks, in advance for any light you may be able to shed on this topic.

Much love and respect for all of God's people,

 

[goofy4tink]

Okay now...who knew there are so many Episcopalians out there. Anyway.....as an altar guild directress, I have been taught that once that bread has been blessed, it gets eaten. If it is dropped on the floor for instance, you must eat it. It is now considered sacred.

As far as the oldest religion.....wouldn't that have to be Judaism? You know, the whole king of the Jews thing? If you believe in 'the creation' it would follow that they are all Jewish. Or, am I missing something somewhere? That's just what I've always thought. You know, the 12 tribes etc.

 

[6_Time_Momma]

Originally posted by GAIL HAYDEN
Since the Church of England began. We do belive that the host and wine become the body and blood of Christ.
Have you ever read the Book of Common Prayer?

I haven't read the Book of Common Prayer, but everything I have read on the Episopal Church states that believe He is spiritually present in the Bread, but not physically present. Do you have anything (link-wise) that states otherwise? (Disclaimer: I am not asking to be a smart-alec.....genuinely curious since everything I have seen has said otherwise )

 

[CRB#33]

Originally posted by GAIL HAYDEN
No it is not. The Christian religion is the oldest.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/first/diversity.html

I was taught the same Sacraments and they are extreamly important to me for my relationship with the Holy Trinity.

As far as I understand things, the original Christian Faith was Judiasm. Peter, Paul, James and John were all solidly Jewish. Paul was the one who, even though he always thought of himself as nothing other than Jewish, said traditions of the Jewish church should not keep people from knowing and becoming part of the Kingdom of Christ. For example the rite of circumcision. Many people in those days resisited the message of Christ, because they thought they would have to be circumcised, they thought they would have to become Jewish. This was a problem between Peter and Paul.

Paul's message was that it was Christ that mattered, not rites and sacraments and traditions. It was Christ's message and who he was.

We've come so far from that with our different religions.

I think Paul had the right idea from the start.

 

[JerseyJanice]

Goofy4tink, Judaism is much older than Christianity. After all, Jesus Christ himself was a practicing Jew.

There may be even older religions than it. I think Buddahism is; I don't know when Hinduism and Islam came into being.

Christianity was spread by Christ's apostles and disciples after his death. It evolved into the Catholic Church, which stood as the only organized Christian religion for centuries.

After King Henry VIII (1500's?) wasn't allowed to divorce, he helped to create the Angelican faith. It was a spin-off from the Catholic Church. Over time, other protestant religions (Episcopalian, Lutheran, Methodist, etc.) were also spun off the Catholic Church.

So that's my point here. There are older religions than Christianity, but the Catholic Church is the oldest organized one.

I'm trying to find you guys a reference that directly states that exorcism is a sacrament. I'm certain that it is. It's just not advertised as such very often.