FP+ Details Are Out!

[BuckeyeBama]

Maybe someone can list the parts of this whole thing that are NOT insane.

Trying to identify the Dis posters who are really Disney Finance Dept. plants?

 

[doconeill]

Ok, here is another situation. My mom has 2 left over tickets. One with 2 days park hopper and one 3 day base ticket. One day we want to park hop but another day not, so we would switch up her ticket and save the park hopper ticket to use on another trip that we would park hop. How would we go about having both tickets listed and what would happen if the FP+s were not set up on the ticket we used for the park that day? Seems to me that the FP+s would be lost for that day. We of course could get some of those same day FP+s but who knows if they would have anything that would work with the ones already set up.

You're getting WAY ahead of available information right now.

There are a couple of possibilities I can think of, but it's just in my head and not necessarily in Disney's...but the FP+ may be associated with a profile, not the ticket, so it doesn't matter what "ticket" enables you to book them...it is your MagicBand/RFID device that enables you to _use_ them.

What may happen is that you will burn a day of pre-booking on the ticket used to pre-book but not used for entrance that day.

But I am completely unsure of that since there is no information to go on.

 

[rastuso]

Oh, I knew the FP enforcement would have no wiggle room once it started. But honestly with all the complications coming from FP+ that sounds far preferable. I just don't think FP+ will come to DLR until it is running smoothly at WDW. Anyone have a guess on when that will happen?

DL does enforce, afaik. However, with the two issues of A: Them not going crazy on what rides have FP, and B: Big headliners like Matterhorn and Indy have single rider lines, DL is still operating a reasonable FP system.

Going in Oct will be light crowds except Fri and Sat. And of course you can hit Knott's Scary Farm!

Jason

 

[squirrel4569]

Maybe someone can list the parts of this whole thing that are NOT insane.

Switching from cards to bands isn't a bad thing. I'm actually very excited about that aspect of it. Much better than needing multiple cards and pieces of paper for your key, credit card, ticket, photopass, fastpass, etc.

RFID is cool tech and has tons of ways to be used that are really cool and neat.

Jury is still out on if FP+ will make it better or worse. I'm hoping for better but only time will tell on that.

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

Maybe someone can list the parts of this whole thing that are NOT insane.

Not specifically FP+, but I do like the idea of Magic Bands. I won't spend an extra nickel to pretty them up, but it will be nice to not have to wear a lanyard around my neck with the family's KTTW cards.

 

[doconeill]

Switching from cards to bands isn't a bad thing...

Have you seen the number of people who seem to believe that WDW will hold a gun to their head and MAKE them wear it on their wrist?

Yes, exaggeration, but several times lately I've had to talk people down from the cliff that 1) You don't need to WEAR it, just HAVE it; and 2) You can opt for a card instead (which might limit some features).

And the rumored 3) of an non-wristband form factor like a keyfob, but that's not reliable info right now.

 

[rastuso]

Trying to identify the Dis posters who are really Disney Finance Dept. plants?

Go to "the site that shall not be named", it's FULL of reasons why Magic Bands are the greatest thing ever. Heck, they even tried to say that Tokyo Disneyland has an awesome Magiquest type wand you can buy that uses RFID for their 30th anniversary that is usable for special props, so Magic Bands will be awesome (this is not an exaggeration).

To the poster with the RD and evening FP+ strategy. That's the same one everyone on DIS is going to use, and anyone with a brain in the GP will use. Good luck with that. Especially since many resort guests will have RD FP+s to use now. I foresee RD standby being long now. It is in Tokyo. Pooh had a 2 hour standby by the time I got through RD, and the Pooh FP line

I think assuming standby lines on the E tickets will be short for the first two hours still, AFP, are going to get quite the surprise.

Jason

 

[Robo]

I think assuming standby lines on the E tickets will be short for the first two hours still, AFP, are going to get quite the surprise.

With the overwhelming reluctance many WDW guests have to "getting up early on vacation,"
I can foresee quite a few of those who have FP+ reservations in the first hour (or 2) from park opening time just blowing off the FP's.

We see that kind of thing NOW in the large crowds at AM EMH parks which arrive not at 8AM, but at 10-11AM.
They INTENDED to get up and do the AM EMH, but they just couldn't make it up early enough to get there.

We'll just have to wait and see...

 

[BuckeyeBama]

With the overwhelming reluctance many WDW guests have to "getting up early on vacation,"
I can foresee quite a few of those who have FP+ reservations in the first hour (or 2) from park opening time just blowing off the FP's.

We see that kind of thing NOW in the large crowds at AM EMH parks which arrive not at 8AM, but at 10-11AM.
They INTENDED to get up and do the AM EMH, but they just couldn't make it up early enough to get there.

We'll just have to wait and see...

Agreed

 

[Missyrose]

Switching from cards to bands isn't a bad thing. I'm actually very excited about that aspect of it. Much better than needing multiple cards and pieces of paper for your key, credit card, ticket, photopass, fastpass, etc.

This will work out great unless you're an annual passholder... or DVC member... or Tables in Wonderland holder.

 

[xipetotec]

This will work out great unless you're an annual passholder... or DVC member... or Tables in Wonderland holder.

Yes, going with our DVC in March, I will be *very* curious to see how this pans out for us...

 

[jade1]

With the overwhelming reluctance many WDW guests have to "getting up early on vacation,"
I can foresee quite a few of those who have FP+ reservations in the first hour (or 2) from park opening time just blowing off the FP's.

We see that kind of thing NOW in the large crowds at AM EMH parks which arrive not at 8AM, but at 10-11AM.
They INTENDED to get up and do the AM EMH, but they just couldn't make it up early enough to get there.

We'll just have to wait and see...

Also agree. And currently any FP selections in the AM are from guests "in the park"-so you know they will show up. With FP+-many fewer will be utilized IMO.

Plus they could always still offer an EMH in the AM with no FP+ selections, for those staying on site.

 

[rastuso]

With the overwhelming reluctance many WDW guests have to "getting up early on vacation,"
I can foresee quite a few of those who have FP+ reservations in the first hour (or 2) from park opening time just blowing off the FP's.

We see that kind of thing NOW in the large crowds at AM EMH parks which arrive not at 8AM, but at 10-11AM.
They INTENDED to get up and do the AM EMH, but they just couldn't make it up early enough to get there.

We'll just have to wait and see...

If 33% of their E Ticket rides are dependent on getting there early, I'm pretty sure they'll be there. I think RD crowd will still be lower than the noon crowd, obviously. But now, at RD, you are operating essentially FP free, so standby flows well, as soon as FP start becoming a significant number of riders, which most certainly will start happening earlier, standby starts backing up FAST.

Now, I can see folks sleeping in and missing their 9 am Country Bear Jamboree FP+.

Jason

 

[doconeill]

This will work out great unless you're an annual passholder... or DVC member... or Tables in Wonderland holder.

APs are expected to be included on the MagicBands. Originally, the T&C said you still had to hold on to the card for discount purposes, but that was removed with the March update, which makes me think the realized that the cards weren't useful for verifying discount eligibility anyways, since there is no identification or expiration info on them (beyond what the guest writes). So I'm betting at least AP discount stuff will be totally on the bands.

DVC member IDs probably not, since DVC's systems are pretty separate and would require additional integration, although the hints of it are there.

TIW could get on there at some point, since it would be the same thing for discounts - just another affiliation associated with the profile.

 

[ghtx]

DVC member IDs probably not, since DVC's systems are pretty separate and would require additional integration, although the hints of it are there.

Really? My DVC membership has been listed on my KTTW card for as long as I can remember. I don't see why it would be more trouble to put it on a Magic Band.

 

[patrickpiteo]

APs are expected to be included on the MagicBands. Originally, the T&C said you still had to hold on to the card for discount purposes, but that was removed with the March update, which makes me think the realized that the cards weren't useful for verifying discount eligibility anyways, since there is no identification or expiration info on them (beyond what the guest writes). So I'm betting at least AP discount stuff will be totally on the bands.

DVC member IDs probably not, since DVC's systems are pretty separate and would require additional integration, although the hints of it are there.

TIW could get on there at some point, since it would be the same thing for discounts - just another affiliation associated with the profile.

When I log on to Disney they recognize me as a DVC member and offer discount on party tickets.
So pretty good guess that info will also be on the band...

 

[patrickpiteo]

Really? My DVC membership has been listed on my KTTW card for as long as I can remember. I don't see why it would be more trouble to put it on a Magic Band.

I agree seems reverting is going to be tied together AP, DVC any tickets, FP+ ADR all of it on the band and MDE app.

 

[doconeill]

Really? My DVC membership has been listed on my KTTW card for as long as I can remember. I don't see why it would be more trouble to put it on a Magic Band.

All the KTTW card says (or used to say) is "DVC Member", when issued at a DVC resort, on a DVC points reservation, from the DVC reservations system...

I think at that point you might see the connection there...

I might be a DVC member staying at the Poly on cash...and the KTTW card won't say it.

Also, the for the past year at least, my cards have only said "DVC Room Only" and not said anything about being a member. And CMs are apparently not taking the KTTW cards for member discounts - you need the blue card still.

The main thing being that the DVC system has been pretty separate from the rest of the system.

I shouldn't have said "probably not", as much as "probably longer term". It's up to DVC though.

 

[bcrook]

I agree seems reverting is going to be tied together AP, DVC any tickets, FP+ ADR all of it on the band and MDE app.

So you think we will get our discounts automatically without asking if it is linked to the band? That would be great.

 

[patrickpiteo]

So you think we will get our discounts automatically without asking if it is linked to the band? That would be great.

I thinking hoping .. Makes sense gonna have to see what finally rolls out.