FLL airport - Shooting today at 1 pm - 9 wounded

[CdnCarrie]

Handguns are illegal in Canada unless you are a police officer or work for Brinks etc. Security guards are not armed. I was confused when I first read the early reports because I knew ammunition is not permitted on flights. Strange how two countries can be do close, yet so far apart on issues like this.

No they aren't. My Dad has a handgun but it's only for use at his shooting range. They are super restricted however. You can get an handgun at Cabela's in Winnipeg. http://www.cabelas.ca/category/handguns/1102

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/who-may-carry-handguns-in-canada-1.1135084

And it's illegal to be out in public with in unless you are in certain occupations or transporting it to a shooting range. So unlike the USA where they have open/concealed carry we don't have the general public walking around with guns either out in the open concealed. (except for armed security guards and cops for the most part). If you are going to the shooting range it needs to be properly stowed/transported etc. You can't take it inside to Timmie's with you. 

 

[Chernabog#1fan]

Then I assume you sided with the bakery that claimed it was against their religion/beliefs to bake a cake for a same sex wedding.
We're so divided that people are still protesting the election.
Six people died due to their actions protesting it
http://theseattletribune.com/6-dead-after-truck-collides-with-anti-trump-protesters-on-freeway/

I hate the fact that the article says the driver was responsible. Seems that the protesters were the ones responsible, but the driver has to live with it and possibly be charged with homicide.

 

[3 MEN AND A BOAT]

Anyone who is intolerant of another's race, religion, culture, lifestyle needs to look in the mirror. There are tons of lifestyles, religions, cultures I wouldn't want to live but it doesn't mean I get to choose for others. To each his own. Tolerance is the key. Peace.

Holy crap that's a reach into outer space! LOL! Any other assumptions you'd like to make?

Not a reach at all, just pointing out like I said earlier, everyone thinks that everyone else needs to look in a mirror.

 

[3 MEN AND A BOAT]

I hate the fact that the article says the driver was responsible. Seems that the protesters were the ones responsible, but the driver has to love with it and possibly be charged with homicide.

My thought also, I can't see how people standing in a freeway is anybody's fault but their own.

 

[bellebud]

We're so divided that people are still protesting the election.
Six people died due to their actions protesting it
http://theseattletribune.com/6-dead-after-truck-collides-with-anti-trump-protesters-on-freeway/

I really hope the guy doesn't get charged, and I hope this stops people from protesting like this. It's the absolute dumbest form of protesting I've ever seen! The poor families of those 'protestors' and the poor guy who hit them.

 

[Ciao Mickey]

Anyone who is intolerant of another's race, religion, culture, lifestyle needs to look in the mirror. There are tons of lifestyles, religions, cultures I wouldn't want to live but it doesn't mean I get to choose for others. To each his own. Tolerance is the key. Peace.

 

[AnnaFloridaLover]

Not a reach at all, just pointing out like I said earlier, everyone thinks that everyone else needs to look in a mirror.

Tolerance means keeping one's own personal views to themselves and not expecting others to adhere to your views (on any subject). Religious views should ALWAYS be kept in the privacy of one's own home/church/family. Religion has no place in the state/politics/public workplace, etc (unless the workplace is their church).

 

[3 MEN AND A BOAT]

Tolerance means keeping one's own personal views to themselves and not expecting others to adhere to your views (on any subject). Religious views should ALWAYS be kept in the privacy of one's own home/church/family. Religion has no place in the state/politics/public workplace, etc (unless the workplace is their church).

How do you suppose the baker even found out it was for a same sex wedding? Perhaps some people only want tolerance from others. Thats not tolerance at all. That's silencing a section of people you disagree with.

 

[kimblebee]

No they aren't. My Dad has a handgun but it's only for use at his shooting range. They are super restricted however. You can get an handgun at Cabela's in Winnipeg. http://www.cabelas.ca/category/handguns/1102

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/who-may-carry-handguns-in-canada-1.1135084

And it's illegal to be out in public with in unless you are in certain occupations or transporting it to a shooting range. So unlike the USA where they have open/concealed carry we don't have the general public walking around with guns either out in the open concealed. (except for armed security guards and cops for the most part). If you are going to the shooting range it needs to be properly stowed/transported etc. You can take it inside to Timmie's with you. 

Pretty sure you mean you can't take it into Timmies

 

[pat fan]

Personally, I'm much more concerned with the treatment of women on this side of the pond by many of our own homegrown men. Nothing new here.

You can NOT be comparing the US with the treatment of women in the Middle East?

 

[mummabear]

I hate the fact that the article says the driver was responsible. Seems that the protesters were the ones responsible, but the driver has to love with it and possibly be charged with homicide.

Absolutely you ran out into the road, I'm suprised the protesters haven't been arrested, surely blocking the freeway is illegal.

How do you suppose the baker even found out it was for a same sex wedding? Perhaps some people only want tolerance from others. Thats not tolerance at all. That's silencing a section of people you disagree with.

In any number of ways, 2 people come in saying we are looking for a wedding cake.
If you make wedding cakes, you can't discriminate who you are willing to make them for.

 

[minnie56]

Pretty sure you mean you can't take it into Timmies

I rather think so! Yikes!

 

[mnrose]

Aluminum foil crazy is "I just saw 3 UFO's flying over head. Hide the women, save the children, NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW."

Crazy and Dangerous is "ISIS is forcing me to fight for them." Making this type of claim should be treated the same way that phoning in a bomb threat to an airline is treated. In other words, very seriously.

But, he also said (at the same time as the ISIS comment) that he was being "controlled" by national security agencies of the US. In other words, he's mentally very unwell. Sounds like the typical 'tin foil hat' comments to me. The real question is why he was allowed to own a gun. Crazy people should not be allowed to own guns. That's as insane as he apparently is.

 

[mnrose]

Not necessarily. I'll throw out an example that women are mistreated in the Middle East and I won't stand for that sort of behavior in the U.S., even if one's religion says it's acceptable. Not in this life or the next.

I guess it depends on what you mean by mistreatment? Personally, I think the Dugger women are horribly oppressed, and I wouldn't stand for that treatment of myself or my daughter. However, if the Dugger women want to live like that, more power to them. It doesn't affect me.

There's a wide cultural difference in this country on a variety of issues....I'll give the for instance of spanking. There are a lot of parents who think ANY spanking is abuse and horrible, and then there are a lot of parents who think spanking is a necessary and effective form of discipline. Which is it? Mistreatment of a child? Or discipline? We have to be very careful not to impose our cultural beliefs on others....so long as they are in compliance with all relevant laws of our country. In the case of child abuse, we can all agree (I think) that there is a line between discipline and inappropriately abusive behavior. One is fine, and other other violates the law.

 

[3 MEN AND A BOAT]

Absolutely you ran out into the road, I'm suprised the protesters haven't been arrested, surely blocking the freeway is illegal.


In any number of ways, 2 people come in saying we are looking for a wedding cake.
If you make wedding cakes, you can't discriminate who you are willing to make them for.

Sure they do. It's just refusing service but instead of accepting that, the customers cry and cause a stink. But maybe some people think a persons religious freedom isn't protected in a free country. It's only free for the customer. You see, someone is going to have to give.

 

[AnnaFloridaLover]

You can NOT be comparing the US with the treatment of women in the Middle East?

Oh yes I Am. Women are raped, treated like second class citizens, not paid what their worth, etc, etc, etc, by American men everyday. Focus on the here and now, why focus what's going on elsewhere? It's not relevant to the discussion.

 

[mummabear]

Sure they do. It's just refusing service but instead of accepting that, the customers cry and cause a stink. But maybe some people think a persons religious freedom isn't protected in a free country. It's only free for the customer. You see, someone is going to have to give.

And that's the point, you can't refuse service for discriminatory reasons.

When you go into a professional seti g (which is what this baker has done) then their personal feelings aren't relevant.

 

[mnrose]

Sure they do. It's just refusing service but instead of accepting that, the customers cry and cause a stink. But maybe some people think a persons religious freedom isn't protected in a free country. It's only free for the customer. You see, someone is going to have to give.

Sigh. If you hold yourself out as providing a public accommodation, you must provide it to all people who are willing to pay your price for it. After all, in the 1950's there were churches preaching that it was against their religion to tolerate interracial marriage (seems pretty arcane now, right?). So, if that is the thinking of a church, is it ok for one of their members to have a public business and refuse to provide service to a mixed race couple? How about the KKK (which was premised on supposed religious beliefs that the white race was genetically superior to all others)? If I subscribe to their way of thinking, would it be fine for me to insist that only white people get my services?

The law in this country has been settled since the Civil Rights Act of 1964 about your obligations when you start a business and hold yourself out as providing that business to the public. If your religious beliefs, whatever they may be, preclude you from providing a service to ALL members of the public, then you don't start that business. Period. No one is forcing you to go into a business providing service to the public. But, if you do, then you provide your services/goods to all members of the public. It's pretty simple.

The alternative is ghastly. Seriously. Can I hang a sign in the window and exclude anyone I please? Why not? Gosh. We really are devolving.

 

[Pacolovestacos]

Oh yes I Am. Women are raped, treated like second class citizens, not paid what their worth, etc, etc, etc, by American men everyday. Focus on the here and now, why focus what's going on elsewhere? It's not relevant to the discussion.

And I wouldn't stand for that either. That won't stop me from also not putting up with mistreatment of Middle Eastern women here in the U.S. Nothing I can do about it in their part of the world but I can certainly do something about it here.

 

[Pacolovestacos]

Sure they do. It's just refusing service but instead of accepting that, the customers cry and cause a stink. But maybe some people think a persons religious freedom isn't protected in a free country. It's only free for the customer. You see, someone is going to have to give.

I generally agree that people have the right to refuse business. But if they were smart, they would just refuse and not give a specific reason. This is perfectly legal.