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I’ve read that the international issue might be due to the EU internet privacy laws. WDW’s system isn’t in compliance, so they have to block EU residents, and for whatever reason (could be technical, I have no idea) they’ve ended up blocking all international guests.
That's really the only explanation that makes sense, for keeping people from using the MDE app from outside the US. In which case, no amount of negative feedback will change it. Hopefully the option of calling and making reservations that way will work for our international friends.
 
Where did you see this? I can say that as of today, guests will not be able to call to purchase.

One will need to do it in the app, and all guests must be in the US to do so…once here, then the advanced planning beyond initial day for the rest of the trip can occur.
Do you know where this is confirmed? I have also read today that onsite international guests will be able to book 7 days in advance but offsite guests have to wait until they are in the US.

I’ve read that the international issue might be due to the EU internet privacy laws. WDW’s system isn’t in compliance, so they have to block EU residents, and for whatever reason (could be technical, I have no idea) they’ve ended up blocking all international guests.
It annoys me that they use this excuse without saying why! About a year ago they changed the system for booking dining, and at exactly the same time UK residents (I'm not sure about the rest of the EU) lost functionality from the app and had to start using a VPN for most ADRs and dining changes on the website. There were no changes in UK law at the time, so they most have done something to make the app less compliant. It would have to be something very dodgy to make it illegal in so many countries. :-) As we were able to use the full functionality for so many years I'm sure they could do it again with a bit of effort.

If you contact them to ask about this the advice is to ask your travel agent to book your ADRs for you! It doesn't really make much sense that a UK based travel agent can book if the system isn't legal in this country. If they give the same answer this time can I ask member services to book my LLs for me? :-)
 
Do you know where this is confirmed? I have also read today that onsite international guests will be able to book 7 days in advance but offsite guests have to wait until they are in the US.


It annoys me that the use this excuse without saying why! About a year ago they changed the system for booking dining, and at exactly the same time UK residents (I'm not sure about the rest of the EU) lost functionality from the app and had to start using a VPN for most ADRs and dining changes on the website. There were no changes in UK law at the time, so they most have done something to make the app less compliant. It would have to be something very dodgy to make it illegal in so many countries. :-) As we were able to use the full functionality for so many years I'm sure they could do it again with a bit of effort.

If you contact them to ask about this the advice is to ask your travel agent to book your ADRs for you! It doesn't really make much sense that a UK based travel agent can book if the system isn't legal in this country. If they give the same answer this time can I ask member services to book my LLs for me? :-)
It is part of the information being shared with travel professionals.

ETA: International guests must be in the US before doing any advance planning. Those in a WDW resort, Swan/Dolphin or Shades of Green can start up to 7 days earlier if they are in the US...those staying offsite, can only begin 3 days earlier if already in the US.

So, if someone arrives the day before check in to a WDW resort from an international destination, they can begin to plan that day....but if they arrive in the US, say 4 days earlier, then they can begin 4 days out....purchase and planning is only through the MDE app...

I know nothing about VPN's so can't address that aspect.
 
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I know nothing about VPN's so can't address that aspect.
VPN doesn't currently work to purchase Genie+ in the app. The app doesn't care about the IP (which a VPN hides) but seems to use the smartphone location services (GPS) to determine location.

I guess Disney wants me to stay one week at Universal before going to Disney (so I can book attractions 7 days in advance from US soil) instead of going to WDW for two weeks...
 
Never underestimate the ability of Disney to screw up something that should be easy.

Good luck to internationals finding a work around, Disney surely wont do it for you.
 
VPN doesn't currently work to purchase Genie+ in the app. The app doesn't care about the IP (which a VPN hides) but seems to use the smartphone location services (GPS) to determine location.

I guess Disney wants me to stay one week at Universal before going to Disney (so I can book attractions 7 days in advance from US soil) instead of going to WDW for two weeks...
That's actually a pretty good idea.
 
As a Canadian DVC owner, I’m very upset that we won’t be able to book until arriving in US. This would mean lower priority than offsite guests. This make zero sense to me and will require a re-think about owning DVC if this is true or changes are not made to accommodate.
 
It annoys me that they use this excuse without saying why!
I read it in one of the many threads about LL here on DISboards, and I got the impression that it was speculation on the poster's part, not something they had been told by Disney. Further, the speculation was that if it is due to EU law, then only EU residents should be blocked out - but for whatever reason the block is being applied to all international MDE users. I have no knowledge of the relevant technology, so now I'm speculating that it may be difficult to program the system to recognize internet access coming from the EU vs. coming from somewhere other than the EU, and the system can only determine that it's US vs not-US. I truly can't believe that Disney would intentionally do this just to spite the many international visitors they have. There has to be some reason out of their control.
 
VPN doesn't currently work to purchase Genie+ in the app. The app doesn't care about the IP (which a VPN hides) but seems to use the smartphone location services (GPS) to determine location.

I guess Disney wants me to stay one week at Universal before going to Disney (so I can book attractions 7 days in advance from US soil) instead of going to WDW for two weeks...
There are ways (ar least with Android) to set a fake location. It is possible for the app to check this if they want to, but normally apps don't. If nothing else works, it's possible to install an emulator in a PC and use that.
Very annoying, but there are ways to go around that.
 
I’ve read that the international issue might be due to the EU internet privacy laws. WDW’s system isn’t in compliance, so they have to block EU residents, and for whatever reason (could be technical, I have no idea) they’ve ended up blocking all international guests.
It cannot be the reason. They already store a lot of my personal data just for having a MDE account and I have a credit card registered (storing CC numbers comes with additional security requirement). I cannot think of anything that booking a ride in a theme park that is more sensitive than a CC number.
For international visitors, it's not possible to book dining reservations, but a VPN can get around that.
We cannot (last time I checked) also buy MB anymore with the pre-arrival discount, and even a VPN doesn't work around that (I think they check home address).
Hopefully, for people interested, they'll check only the GPS.
 
There are ways (ar least with Android) to set a fake location. It is possible for the app to check this if they want to, but normally apps don't. If nothing else works, it's possible to install an emulator in a PC and use that.
Very annoying, but there are ways to go around that.
Yes, I'm aware and I've done it before (with other apps). But this option is unfortunately not practical for most non-technical users.
 
It cannot be the reason. They already store a lot of my personal data just for having a MDE account and I have a credit card registered (storing CC numbers comes with additional security requirement). I cannot think of anything that booking a ride in a theme park that is more sensitive than a CC number.
For international visitors, it's not possible to book dining reservations, but a VPN can get around that.
We cannot (last time I checked) also buy MB anymore with the pre-arrival discount, and even a VPN doesn't work around that (I think they check home address).
Hopefully, for people interested, they'll check only the GPS.
ok, thanks.
 
Personally, last time, in a 2 weeks trip I have never bought G+: I've been in the parks countless times and there isn't really any attraction that I would pay for riding the 10th or 100th time. I travel in September, so I can usually accomplish all I want rope dropping and staying late.

So what I really hope is that Disney increases the price to the point that fewer people buy it. For example, if they treble the price and only half the people buy it, then Disney gets more money and fewer people skip the line in front of me.
 
It cannot be the reason. They already store a lot of my personal data just for having a MDE account and I have a credit card registered (storing CC numbers comes with additional security requirement). I cannot think of anything that booking a ride in a theme park that is more sensitive than a CC number.
The EU does have regulations around purchase processes as well. So it is a guess but it is plausible. It could also be about tax. California has it's own set of special data rules as well and Disney ist compliant with those. I believe it is less a problem with systems not being compliant and more a problem with Disney not wanting to restrict itself to consistently make sure that they are compliant with many international jurisdictions.
 
Yes, I'm aware and I've done it before (with other apps). But this option is unfortunately not practical for most non-technical users.
I’m definitely in the ‘non-technical’ category, but I’ve managed to find and install a gps app today which works and allows me to book Genie+ from the UK. So there’s hope. You’ve lost me with emulators though 😂
 
Yay us! Increased main gate prices to ridiculous prices. Drastically reduced park hours (especially for on-site guests). And they charge you for something that used to be free for gate prices that were 35% cheaper just 3-4 years ago. What's not to love!
 
Personally, last time, in a 2 weeks trip I have never bought G+: I've been in the parks countless times and there isn't really any attraction that I would pay for riding the 10th or 100th time. I travel in September, so I can usually accomplish all I want rope dropping and staying late.

So what I really hope is that Disney increases the price to the point that fewer people buy it. For example, if they treble the price and only half the people buy it, then Disney gets more money and fewer people skip the line in front of me.
When my wife and I go alone, we have never bought Genie +. However, when traveling with my kids/grand kids we almost always bought Genie+ as my kids want to make sure they can maximize their kids experience.
 
I read it in one of the many threads about LL here on DISboards, and I got the impression that it was speculation on the poster's part, not something they had been told by Disney. Further, the speculation was that if it is due to EU law, then only EU residents should be blocked out - but for whatever reason the block is being applied to all international MDE users. I have no knowledge of the relevant technology, so now I'm speculating that it may be difficult to program the system to recognize internet access coming from the EU vs. coming from somewhere other than the EU, and the system can only determine that it's US vs not-US. I truly can't believe that Disney would intentionally do this just to spite the many international visitors they have. There has to be some reason out of their control.
Being one of the (many) thousands of people who travel to WDW from the UK, it's not just speculation! We are regularly told that this is the reason, and also regularly told to contact our travel agent! (I have personal chats confirming this, even after explaining that my bookings are DVC). We also know when this occurred, which was when the app was changed to allow different functionality.

As Zavandor has said, we're all aware that this is not true. There is no 'technical' reason to block us all, unless the technical reason is that they can't be bothered fixing the issue they created.

It actually seems more speculation to assume that all IT and technical issues are out of their control!
 
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