Family adopts russian boy and then sends him back

The fact that the adoptive mother is refusing to talk to anyone OR tell her side of the story is pretty damning in and of itself. Even if she was totally justified, how are we to know when she won't speak up? Although I truly fail to see how she could possibly have exhausted every other option in the few short months she had him.

Tomorrow investigators are supposed to be meeting with her. I am PRAYING that our crappy TN DCS actually follows through and makes this woman face the repurcussions of her actions. However, I don't put much stock in that organization, sad to say.

Not necessarily. She is facing some serious investigations here in the U.S. and will probably face more of the same with Russia. As it should be. I would guess she has lawyers advising her not to talk to the media.
 
And how would the media get this information? The woman herself isn't talking to the media. She would have to give permission for the info to be legally obtained from doctors and ERs. Why would she give the media this information? For all we know she went to many places...but without her permission, those places can't give out the info.

And that is my whole point--I don't trust the media reports out there right now that the only things she did for the child were over the internet. If she is arrested and charged with child abandonment and endangerment, whatever she did or didn't do would be substantiated in fact.

I'm guessing MOST parents of BIO children would have seen this coming, not an adoptive parent of an older child x months in to the adoption.....

See, I'm guessing that finding drawings this child made of the house burning down and then finding him trying to light a fire in the house was probably a big clue that he needed a behavioral health evaluation, whether said child was adopted or natural born. If current media reports are correct, the woman's reaction to finding his interest in fire setting was to look up a psychologist on the internet, then get advice from a lawyer (on the internet) and then find a stranger (on the internet) to meet the child in Moscow and take him to Russian authorities. I suspect she even bought his plane ticket on the internet.

Maybe she did take him to an Emergency Room, stating that she believed him dangerous to himself and her and her family. It hasn't been reported yet if she did.

Based on the info I've seen, she sounds like the laziest, cruelest, most irresponsible, stupid and selfish person alive. But if it's proven she tried to get him some help--and I think it's implausible based on the short amount of time he was in her home--then I take it back.

How many people have already spent big money to adopt from Russia? And were in the midst of getting their children, but now won't because of the actions of this woman? There are children who could be coming into a home where they are much loved and wanted by adoptive parents. It's potential parents who have already invested most of their adoption funds into Russia and now might miss out on the chance forever to bring home a child and become a family.

Again I fail to see how anyone knows what kind of help she tried to get or not get. So far nothing has come up on this subject that is fact and can be verified as fact. For all we know she could have had him in all kids of places to get help or that they all refused to help her. WE HAVE NO IDEA!

I doubt she had him in all kinds of places, just based on the short amount of time he was in the home. Remember, at the adoption agency's three month follow-up with the woman, she said all was going well. Oh, and there's another possible victim in this sad case--the adoption agency. Their business is probably completely ruined now. :mad:

I think the only thing stopping U.S. authorities from charging her with child abandonment and endangerment is deciding who has jurisdiction in this case. I saw an interview about the case with a lawyer in Seattle, presumably he gave one because that's where the adoption agency is based. The woman lived in Tennessee, so I personally think that CPS there is the likely jurisdiction, but the Grandmother abandoned him in Washington, DC, so I suppose that's another possible place where charges could be filed.
 
The fact that the adoptive mother is refusing to talk to anyone OR tell her side of the story is pretty damning in and of itself. Even if she was totally justified, how are we to know when she won't speak up? Although I truly fail to see how she could possibly have exhausted every other option in the few short months she had him.

Heck, just posting on this thread can be a little intimidating for those of us even suggesting the full story isn't known. I can understand the mother not wanting to face the media yet.

As an aside, I came home from WDW two weeks ago knowing I'd had two local patrol cars investigating an "anonymous" tip that I'd left my horses without food "for a week" while I was away. Only problem is, I hadn't. I had arranged for house (and horse) sitters who stayed at my house every day while I was away. Of course, when the evidence includes horses that probably weigh 1200 pounds, it's kind of difficult to acuse someone of malnourishing them. As a result, I'm a little sensitive to people making claims without having all the facts. So sensitive that I'm still not sure I won't be contacting the county prosecutor to see what recourse I might have against township officials, who didn't exactly follow protocol, for slander.

People sometimes have a habit of saying--or writing--"facts" that may not be true. Headlines are using about 20 point; retractions usually are 8 point and hidden on page 5 or 6.
 
Heck, just posting on this thread can be a little intimidating for those of us even suggesting the full story isn't known. I can understand the mother not wanting to face the media yet.

As an aside, I came home from WDW two weeks ago knowing I'd had two local patrol cars investigating an "anonymous" tip that I'd left my horses without food "for a week" while I was away. Only problem is, I hadn't. I had arranged for house (and horse) sitters who stayed at my house every day while I was away. Of course, when the evidence includes horses that probably weigh 1200 pounds, it's kind of difficult to acuse someone of malnourishing them. As a result, I'm a little sensitive to people making claims without having all the facts. So sensitive that I'm still not sure I won't be contacting the county prosecutor to see what recourse I might have against township officials, who didn't exactly follow protocol, for slander.

People sometimes have a habit of saying--or writing--"facts" that may not be true. Headlines are using about 20 point; retractions usually are 8 point and hidden on page 5 or 6.

I understand that we don't have all of the facts.


Question:

In your mind what would be a good enough reason for throwing a seven year old alone on a plane to Russia?

A reason that also explains why she didn't surrender her rights here in the USA as her son is a US citizen?

I can't think of one, no matter what facts are lurking out there unknown.
 

Heck, just posting on this thread can be a little intimidating for those of us even suggesting the full story isn't known. I can understand the mother not wanting to face the media yet.

As an aside, I came home from WDW two weeks ago knowing I'd had two local patrol cars investigating an "anonymous" tip that I'd left my horses without food "for a week" while I was away. Only problem is, I hadn't. I had arranged for house (and horse) sitters who stayed at my house every day while I was away. Of course, when the evidence includes horses that probably weigh 1200 pounds, it's kind of difficult to acuse someone of malnourishing them. As a result, I'm a little sensitive to people making claims without having all the facts. So sensitive that I'm still not sure I won't be contacting the county prosecutor to see what recourse I might have against township officials, who didn't exactly follow protocol, for slander.

People sometimes have a habit of saying--or writing--"facts" that may not be true. Headlines are using about 20 point; retractions usually are 8 point and hidden on page 5 or 6.

Thank you :worship:

I only want to wait for the facts which I think we all should. I'm not saying this woman did is not wrong but only that is it VERY complex and to automatically judge someone BEFORE you get all the facts is wrong. What happened to innocent before proven guilty????

The fact is that not one of us were in that house and we really have NO idea what went on.
 
You would blame the victim?

He's seven for crying out loud.

He obviously had some serious issues. His adoptive mother chose not to get him any help. She did not have him diagnosed. She did not have him treated.

She didn't do any of those things that she should have and then instead of following the proper legal steps here to give him up she put him on a plane with a note to be picked up by some stranger who could very well have been a murderer or a pedophile.

She put him in danger.

The fact that he himself may have been dangerous is not relevant. She could have followed the proper steps to address his issues and even relinquished custody but chose not to.
do we know what the mother did or not do? obviously his bio mom could care LESS.

The woman's mother told reporters that she didn't get him help. I've already posted the links here in this thread, so yes, we do have an idea.


If it comes out later that she is wrong then perhaps people may be a little more sympathetic. Until then this is what we have to go on. :confused3
quote the mom please.

The fact that the adoptive mother is refusing to talk to anyone OR tell her side of the story is pretty damning in and of itself. Even if she was totally justified, how are we to know when she won't speak up? Although I truly fail to see how she could possibly have exhausted every other option in the few short months she had him.

Tomorrow investigators are supposed to be meeting with her. I am PRAYING that our crappy TN DCS actually follows through and makes this woman face the repurcussions of her actions. However, I don't put much stock in that organization, sad to say.
not at all damning if facing charges....
 
Thank you :worship:

I only want to wait for the facts which I think we all should. I'm not saying this woman did is not wrong but only that is it VERY complex and to automatically judge someone BEFORE you get all the facts is wrong. What happened to innocent before proven guilty????

The fact is that not one of us were in that house and we really have NO idea what went on.

Wait then.

What's stopping you? :confused3

Shouldn't you be waiting for all the facts before coming in and chastising others who choose to discuss it as it unfolds?

Again I ask:

In your mind what would be a good enough reason for throwing a seven year old alone on a plane to Russia?

A reason that also explains why she didn't surrender her rights here in the USA as her son is a US citizen?

I can't think of one, no matter what facts are lurking out there unknown.
 
I wonder if sending this child back to Russia was an attempt to avoid financial responsibility for him and his treatment. I came across this tidbit.

"Passage of a federal law in the year 2000 that made citizenship faster and easier for internationally adopted children also created new ramifications surrounding disruption. [disruption means reversing or terminating the adoption] People who adopt children from other countries and bring them back into the USA must sign a form pledging to be financially responsible for the child. Form I-864, the Affidavit of Support, requires that adoptive parents reimburse any government or private agency that provides their child with any means-tested public benefit, such as food stamps or welfare.

In the case of an adoption dissolution, the parents will usually be required to pay child support, based on their income, until the child is adopted by another family or turns 18 years old. This can be financially devastating, not only because of the payments themselves but also because these parents often have tens of thousands of dollars worth of debt for medical and therapeutic costs for the child."

So she couldn't just dissolve the adoption in the U.S. and be free of any financial responsibility to the child.

She may have seen the writing on the wall. She would have to continue to pay for the child -- and institutionalized mental health care, (if that's what he needed), can run into the tens of thousands per year. So she opted to try to get the country to "take him back."

This article also went through the protocol for terminating an adoption. It said that to terminate you must work through your adoption agency -- they will guide you through the legal process -- and you must not under any circumstance send the child back to their original country. I do believe legal charges can be brought against her for sending her child out of the country with the intention of permanently abandoning him.
 
I think so too.

I reserve right on her punishment but yeah - the child probably has much more wrong with him.




so is that much better than being with the family who adopted you?:confused3 now the state pays?

what's the result?


oh my, that is HORRIFIC!



my god, you adopt a dog at a shelter and they disclose any issues...yes, people may choose not to adopt children with problems, but shouln't they be disclosed?



I'm guessing MOST parents of BIO children would have seen this coming, not an adoptive parent of an older child x months in to the adoption.....


that is horrible.


why didn't Russia help him before he was adopted? Are we helping our own children who need to be adopted.....?

what about the child? you can threaten to kill and be fine with that?

To answer your question, yes the state did pay. 20 years ago, her care was over 50k a year. My FIL, a career Marine, didn't have that kind of cash sitting around. I don't know anyone, actually who does. It was a painful decision that haunts them to this day. However, due to the care she received, she lives independently, and works full-time, again, as long as she complies with her meds.
 
I understand that we don't have all of the facts.

Question:

In your mind what would be a good enough reason for throwing a seven year old alone on a plane to Russia?

A reason that also explains why she didn't surrender her rights here in the USA as her son is a US citizen?

I can't think of one, no matter what facts are lurking out there unknown.

Well, if you're asking what MY mind thinks, MY mind thinks that unless you've got any personal, intimate, first-hand knowledge of mental illness, and a severe one at that, MY mind, while not approving of her handling of the situation, would withhold judgment until the entire story is known.

It is unfortunate, to infinity and beyond, that this has happened, both to the child AND his adoptive mom and family. What should have been an opportunity for a wonderful and joyful life has turned to ashes. Surely she feels no joy, and not just because of all the attention. Truly, I hope she's getting some help, for she surely must feel a sense of failure. Can't get much worse than this.

What I'd really like to know is how much disclosure the mom received about the child prior to the adoption. If the child displayed symptoms prior to the adoption, the Russians should never have placed him in a postion to be adopted, or should have screened potential parents even more carefully.

While it seems harsh, the reality is that our country has reached a point where there is not infinite money to throw at health care. I'm sure we all have personal experience or know of friends/family who've been told "No" by insurers or state programs. I can guarantee you that Ohio is telling the poorest of the poor that they are ineligible for financial aid or care. That's just the way it is.
 
To answer your question, yes the state did pay. 20 years ago, her care was over 50k a year. My FIL, a career Marine, didn't have that kind of cash sitting around. I don't know anyone, actually who does. It was a painful decision that haunts them to this day. However, due to the care she received, she lives independently, and works full-time, again, as long as she complies with her meds.
I guess I am confusing your post with a few others.

The adoptive parents tried for x years, it didn't work and then they turned her over to the state for care? You said they were American Alchs....so basically they did what this woman did just within the same country with more time elapsed....was it a foster situation?



I need to disclose. DH's parents adopted a 4 yr old girl when he was 11. I suspect FAS, but not certain. Her parents were American alcoholics, who lost custody. She ate out of the trash, stole from them, tried to burn the house down, and threatened them over many years. In order to afford the care she needed, they had to turn custody of her over to the state at age 16. My poor in-laws. They had done so much, but had run out of money for therapy etc. She was institutionalized, and dx'd with schizophrenia. When she takes her meds, she's okay. When she doesn't, it's bad. I really don't know what the answer is, but I can tell you, people aren't lining up to jump in and help.
 
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quote the mom please.

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Originally Posted by Holly

Hansen said her daughter sought advice from psychologists but never had her adoptive son meet with one.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100410/...ia_adopted_boy

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...siadopt11.html


It's hard to be sympathetic to this woman when she never had him assessed or treated.

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Grandmother: Boy terrified adoptive kin
Torry Hansen was so eager to become a mother that she adopted an older child from a foreign country, two factors that scare off many prospective parents. Her fear came later.

By KRISTIN M. HALL

The Associated Press

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Bedford County (Tenn.) Sheriff Randall Boyce is investigating a woman who sent her adoptive son back to Russia.
SHELBYVILLE, Tenn. — Torry Hansen was so eager to become a mother that she adopted an older child from a foreign country, two factors that scare off many prospective parents. Her fear came later.

Torry's mother, Nancy Hansen, said the 7-year-old's violent episodes — which culminated in a threat to burn down the family's home — terrified them into a shocking solution: The boy they renamed Justin was put on a plane by himself and sent back to Russia.

Officials in Russia are calling for a halt to adoptions by Americans, and authorities are investigating the family. However, Nancy Hansen said the motives of her daughter — a 33-year-old, unmarried registered nurse — were sincere.

"The intent of my daughter was to have a family, and the intent of my whole family was to love that child," she said Friday.

While her actions were condemned by Russia's president and U.S. diplomats, the sheriff investigating the case said it's not clear if anyone can be charged.

"You know, you look at it, and it's hard to say exactly if a law has been broken here," Bedford County Sheriff Randall Boyce said.

The Russian education ministry immediately suspended the license of the group involved in the adoption — the World Association for Children and Parents, a Renton, Wash.-based agency — for the duration of an investigation.

Bob Tuke, a Nashville attorney and member of American Academy of Adoption Attorneys, said abandonment charges against the family could depend on whether the boy was a U.S. citizen.

It wasn't clear if the adoption had become final.

There was no response to a knock at Torry Hansen's door Saturday.

The family was told the boy, whose Russian name is Artyom Savelyev, was healthy in September when he was brought from an orphanage in Partizansk in Russia's Far East, to his new home in the heart of Tennessee horse country. He was sent to the orphanage after his mother, an alcoholic, lost her parental rights, officials said.

The boy seemed happy at first, but the behavioral problems began soon after, Nancy Hansen said.



"The Russian orphanage officials completely lied to her because they wanted to get rid of him," she said.

She chronicled a list of problems: hitting, screaming and spitting at his mother and threatening to kill family members.

She said his eruptions were often sparked when he was denied something he wanted, such as toys or video games.

Hansen said she thought that with love, she and her daughter could help him. "I was wrong," she said.

Adoption experts say many families are blinded by their desire to adopt and don't always understand what the orphans have sometimes endured, especially older children who may have been neglected or abandoned.

"They're not prepared to appreciate, psychologically, the kinds of conditions these kids have been exposed to and the effect it has had on them," said Joseph LaBarbera, a clinical psychologist at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville.

Hansen said her daughter sought advice from psychologists but never had her adoptive son meet with one. She and her daughter chose an English-language home-study program, hoping to enroll him in traditional school in the fall.

In February, Hansen said, the family could take no more. The boy flew into a rage, snatched a 3-pound statue and tried to attack his aunt with it.

Hansen said he was upset after his aunt asked him to correct math problems on his school work.

Nancy Hansen said she accompanied the boy on a flight to Washington, where she put him on a direct United Airlines flight to Moscow on Wednesday.

She had found a guide over the Internet who for $200 agreed to pick up the child at the airport and to drop him off at the education ministry.

She said she therefore had not abandoned the child.

He arrived in Moscow on Thursday. With him was a note from Torry Hansen that read, in part: "After giving my best to this child, I am sorry to say that for the safety of my family, friends, and myself, I no longer wish to parent this child."

Pavel Astakhov, Russia's children's rights commissioner, said Saturday that three Russian families had come forward and asked to adopt the boy.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has called the boy's return "the last straw" after a string of foreign adoption failures, and officials in Moscow called for a suspension of all U.S. adoptions in Russia, which totaled about 1,600 last year, according to the U.S. group the National Council For Adoption.

Material from The Seattle Times archive is included in this report.


Grandmother: Boy terrorized adoptive family in US
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SHELBYVILLE, Tenn. – Torry Hansen was so eager to become a mother that she adopted an older child from a foreign country, two factors that scare off many prospective parents. Her bigger fears came later.

Torry's mother, Nancy Hansen, said the 7-year-old's violent episodes — which culminated in a threat to burn the family's home to the ground — terrified them into a shocking solution: The boy they renamed Justin was put on a plane by himself and sent back to Russia.

Now, outraged officials in that country are calling for a halt to adoptions by Americans, and authorities are investigating the family. However, Nancy Hansen told The Associated Press that the motives of her daughter — a 33-year-old, unmarried nurse — were sincere.

"The intent of my daughter was to have a family and the intent of my whole family was to love that child," she said Friday.

The family was told the boy, whose Russian name is Artyom Savelyev, was healthy in September when he was brought from the town of Partizansk in Russia's Far East to his new home in the heart of Tennessee horse country. The skinny boy seemed happy, but the behavioral problems began soon after, Hansen said.

"The Russian orphanage officials completely lied to her because they wanted to get rid of him," she said.

Hansen chronicled a list of problems: hitting, screaming and spitting at his mother and threatening to kill family members. Hansen said his eruptions were often sparked when he was denied something he wanted, like toys or video games.

"He drew a picture of our house burning down and he'll tell anybody that he's going to burn our house down with us in it," she said. "It got to be where you feared for your safety. It was terrible."

Hansen said she thought that with their love, they could help him. "I was wrong," she said.

Adoption experts say many families are blinded by their desire to adopt and don't always understand what the orphans have sometimes endured — especially older children who may have been neglected or abandoned.

"They're not prepared to appreciate, psychologically, the kinds of conditions these kids have been exposed to and the effect it has had on them," said Joseph LaBarbera, a clinical psychologist at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville.

Hansen said her daughter sought advice from psychologists but never had her adoptive son meet with one. They chose an English-language home study program, hoping to enroll him in traditional school in the fall. He would play with his cousin, Logan, at the family's property in Shelbyville, where there is a large backyard and a swingset.

In February, Hansen said, the family could take no more. The boy flew into a rage, snatched a 3-pound statue and tried to attack his aunt with it. Hansen said he was apparently upset after his aunt asked him to correct math problems on his school work.

Hansen bought the plane ticket, and the family arranged to pay a man in Russia $200 to take him from the airport and drop him off at the Russian education ministry. He arrived alone Thursday on a United Airlines flight from Washington.

With him was a note that read, in part: "After giving my best to this child, I am sorry to say that for the safety of my family, friends, and myself, I no longer wish to parent this child."

The family, meanwhile, has rejected the Kremlin's sharp criticism and any notion that the boy was simply abandoned.

Pavel Astakhov, Russia's children's rights commissioner, said during a radio interview Saturday that three Russian families have already come forward and asked to adopt the boy.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has called the boy's return "the last straw" after a string of foreign adoption failures, and officials in Moscow have called for a suspension of all U.S. adoptions in Russia — which totaled about 1,600 last year, according to the nonprofit U.S. advocacy group the National Council For Adoption.

The Russian education ministry immediately suspended the license of the group involved in the adoption — the World Association for Children and Parents, a Renton, Washington-based agency — for the duration of an investigation.

Experts and adoptive parents have reacted with similar shock, though they stress that the vast majority of adopted children are raised in happy, loving homes.

"That incidents like the one today can cause children to remain in orphanages rather than be adopted by loving families is the real tragedy," said Sue Gainor, who adopted a child from Russia in 2001 and is the national chairperson of Families for Russian and Ukranian Adoption.

Bob Tuke, a Nashville attorney and member of American Academy of Adoption Attorneys, said abandonment charges against the family could depend on whether the boy was a U.S. citizen.

It wasn't clear if the adoption had become final but a Tennessee health department spokeswoman said there was no birth certificate issued for the boy, a step that would indicate he had become a U.S. citizen.

There was no response to a knock at Torry Hansen's door, and a phone listing couldn't be found for her. Her mother also declined to put AP in touch with her, and the family has since retained an attorney.

Bedford County Sheriff Randall Boyce said it was not clear whether any laws had been broken.

"This is extremely unusual," Boyce said. "I don't think anyone has seen something like this before."

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Associated Press writers Nataliya Vasilyeva in Moscow, Travis Loller and Chris Talbott in Nashville, Joshua Freed in Minneapolis, George Tibbits in Seattle, and Foster Klug and Robert Burns in Washington contributed to this report.

it's late. let me reread, but I thought this was th adoptive's mom's mom.

ETA - who are you quoting so I don't have to reread.............
 
I guess I am confusing your post with a few others.

The adoptive parents tried for x years, it didn't work and then they turned her over to the state for care? You said they were American Alchs....so basically they did what this woman did just within the same country with more time elapsed....was it a foster situation?



I need to disclose. DH's parents adopted a 4 yr old girl when he was 11. I suspect FAS, but not certain. Her parents were American alcoholics, who lost custody. She ate out of the trash, stole from them, tried to burn the house down, and threatened them over many years. In order to afford the care she needed, they had to turn custody of her over to the state at age 16. My poor in-laws. They had done so much, but had run out of money for therapy etc. She was institutionalized, and dx'd with schizophrenia. When she takes her meds, she's okay. When she doesn't, it's bad. I really don't know what the answer is, but I can tell you, people aren't lining up to jump in and help.

Her birth parents were alcoholics. My in laws adopted her at age 4. After years of treatment and counseling, they were at the end of their ropes. At age 16, when they realized her care would be over 50,000 per year, they had to turn her over to the state. This was the choice given back then. You either had to pay up, or give up custody to the child. I don't know if this is still the case. She needed 24/7 residential treatment, and they had exhausted all their savings.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lillygator


quote the mom please.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Holly

Hansen said her daughter sought advice from psychologists but never had her adoptive son meet with one.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100410/...ia_adopted_boy

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...siadopt11.html


It's hard to be sympathetic to this woman when she never had him assessed or treated.

...............





Grandmother: Boy terrified adoptive kin
Torry Hansen was so eager to become a mother that she adopted an older child from a foreign country, two factors that scare off many prospective parents. Her fear came later.

By KRISTIN M. HALL

The Associated Press

PREV of NEXT


JOSH ANDERSON / AP

Bedford County (Tenn.) Sheriff Randall Boyce is investigating a woman who sent her adoptive son back to Russia.
SHELBYVILLE, Tenn. — Torry Hansen was so eager to become a mother that she adopted an older child from a foreign country, two factors that scare off many prospective parents. Her fear came later.

Torry's mother, Nancy Hansen, said the 7-year-old's violent episodes — which culminated in a threat to burn down the family's home — terrified them into a shocking solution: The boy they renamed Justin was put on a plane by himself and sent back to Russia.

Officials in Russia are calling for a halt to adoptions by Americans, and authorities are investigating the family. However, Nancy Hansen said the motives of her daughter — a 33-year-old, unmarried registered nurse — were sincere.

"The intent of my daughter was to have a family, and the intent of my whole family was to love that child," she said Friday.

While her actions were condemned by Russia's president and U.S. diplomats, the sheriff investigating the case said it's not clear if anyone can be charged.

"You know, you look at it, and it's hard to say exactly if a law has been broken here," Bedford County Sheriff Randall Boyce said.

The Russian education ministry immediately suspended the license of the group involved in the adoption — the World Association for Children and Parents, a Renton, Wash.-based agency — for the duration of an investigation.

Bob Tuke, a Nashville attorney and member of American Academy of Adoption Attorneys, said abandonment charges against the family could depend on whether the boy was a U.S. citizen.

It wasn't clear if the adoption had become final.

There was no response to a knock at Torry Hansen's door Saturday.

The family was told the boy, whose Russian name is Artyom Savelyev, was healthy in September when he was brought from an orphanage in Partizansk in Russia's Far East, to his new home in the heart of Tennessee horse country. He was sent to the orphanage after his mother, an alcoholic, lost her parental rights, officials said.

The boy seemed happy at first, but the behavioral problems began soon after, Nancy Hansen said.



"The Russian orphanage officials completely lied to her because they wanted to get rid of him," she said.

She chronicled a list of problems: hitting, screaming and spitting at his mother and threatening to kill family members.

She said his eruptions were often sparked when he was denied something he wanted, such as toys or video games.

Hansen said she thought that with love, she and her daughter could help him. "I was wrong," she said.

Adoption experts say many families are blinded by their desire to adopt and don't always understand what the orphans have sometimes endured, especially older children who may have been neglected or abandoned.

"They're not prepared to appreciate, psychologically, the kinds of conditions these kids have been exposed to and the effect it has had on them," said Joseph LaBarbera, a clinical psychologist at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville.

Hansen said her daughter sought advice from psychologists but never had her adoptive son meet with one. She and her daughter chose an English-language home-study program, hoping to enroll him in traditional school in the fall.

In February, Hansen said, the family could take no more. The boy flew into a rage, snatched a 3-pound statue and tried to attack his aunt with it.

Hansen said he was upset after his aunt asked him to correct math problems on his school work.

Nancy Hansen said she accompanied the boy on a flight to Washington, where she put him on a direct United Airlines flight to Moscow on Wednesday.

She had found a guide over the Internet who for $200 agreed to pick up the child at the airport and to drop him off at the education ministry.

She said she therefore had not abandoned the child.

He arrived in Moscow on Thursday. With him was a note from Torry Hansen that read, in part: "After giving my best to this child, I am sorry to say that for the safety of my family, friends, and myself, I no longer wish to parent this child."

Pavel Astakhov, Russia's children's rights commissioner, said Saturday that three Russian families had come forward and asked to adopt the boy.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has called the boy's return "the last straw" after a string of foreign adoption failures, and officials in Moscow called for a suspension of all U.S. adoptions in Russia, which totaled about 1,600 last year, according to the U.S. group the National Council For Adoption.

Material from The Seattle Times archive is included in this report.


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Facebook Twitter Delicious Digg Fark Newsvine Reddit StumbleUpon Technorati Yahoo! Bookmarks .Print .. AP – ** CORRECTS BOYS AGE IN LIGHT OF SUBSEQUENT INFORMATION ** In this image taken from Rossia 1 television … .By KRISTIN M. HALL, Associated Press Writers Kristin M. Hall, Associated Press Writers – Sat Apr 10, 3:43 pm ET
SHELBYVILLE, Tenn. – Torry Hansen was so eager to become a mother that she adopted an older child from a foreign country, two factors that scare off many prospective parents. Her bigger fears came later.

Torry's mother, Nancy Hansen, said the 7-year-old's violent episodes — which culminated in a threat to burn the family's home to the ground — terrified them into a shocking solution: The boy they renamed Justin was put on a plane by himself and sent back to Russia.

Now, outraged officials in that country are calling for a halt to adoptions by Americans, and authorities are investigating the family. However, Nancy Hansen told The Associated Press that the motives of her daughter — a 33-year-old, unmarried nurse — were sincere.

"The intent of my daughter was to have a family and the intent of my whole family was to love that child," she said Friday.

The family was told the boy, whose Russian name is Artyom Savelyev, was healthy in September when he was brought from the town of Partizansk in Russia's Far East to his new home in the heart of Tennessee horse country. The skinny boy seemed happy, but the behavioral problems began soon after, Hansen said.

"The Russian orphanage officials completely lied to her because they wanted to get rid of him," she said.

Hansen chronicled a list of problems: hitting, screaming and spitting at his mother and threatening to kill family members. Hansen said his eruptions were often sparked when he was denied something he wanted, like toys or video games.

"He drew a picture of our house burning down and he'll tell anybody that he's going to burn our house down with us in it," she said. "It got to be where you feared for your safety. It was terrible."

Hansen said she thought that with their love, they could help him. "I was wrong," she said.

Adoption experts say many families are blinded by their desire to adopt and don't always understand what the orphans have sometimes endured — especially older children who may have been neglected or abandoned.

"They're not prepared to appreciate, psychologically, the kinds of conditions these kids have been exposed to and the effect it has had on them," said Joseph LaBarbera, a clinical psychologist at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville.

Hansen said her daughter sought advice from psychologists but never had her adoptive son meet with one. They chose an English-language home study program, hoping to enroll him in traditional school in the fall. He would play with his cousin, Logan, at the family's property in Shelbyville, where there is a large backyard and a swingset.

In February, Hansen said, the family could take no more. The boy flew into a rage, snatched a 3-pound statue and tried to attack his aunt with it. Hansen said he was apparently upset after his aunt asked him to correct math problems on his school work.

Hansen bought the plane ticket, and the family arranged to pay a man in Russia $200 to take him from the airport and drop him off at the Russian education ministry. He arrived alone Thursday on a United Airlines flight from Washington.

With him was a note that read, in part: "After giving my best to this child, I am sorry to say that for the safety of my family, friends, and myself, I no longer wish to parent this child."

The family, meanwhile, has rejected the Kremlin's sharp criticism and any notion that the boy was simply abandoned.

Pavel Astakhov, Russia's children's rights commissioner, said during a radio interview Saturday that three Russian families have already come forward and asked to adopt the boy.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has called the boy's return "the last straw" after a string of foreign adoption failures, and officials in Moscow have called for a suspension of all U.S. adoptions in Russia — which totaled about 1,600 last year, according to the nonprofit U.S. advocacy group the National Council For Adoption.

The Russian education ministry immediately suspended the license of the group involved in the adoption — the World Association for Children and Parents, a Renton, Washington-based agency — for the duration of an investigation.

Experts and adoptive parents have reacted with similar shock, though they stress that the vast majority of adopted children are raised in happy, loving homes.

"That incidents like the one today can cause children to remain in orphanages rather than be adopted by loving families is the real tragedy," said Sue Gainor, who adopted a child from Russia in 2001 and is the national chairperson of Families for Russian and Ukranian Adoption.

Bob Tuke, a Nashville attorney and member of American Academy of Adoption Attorneys, said abandonment charges against the family could depend on whether the boy was a U.S. citizen.

It wasn't clear if the adoption had become final but a Tennessee health department spokeswoman said there was no birth certificate issued for the boy, a step that would indicate he had become a U.S. citizen.

There was no response to a knock at Torry Hansen's door, and a phone listing couldn't be found for her. Her mother also declined to put AP in touch with her, and the family has since retained an attorney.

Bedford County Sheriff Randall Boyce said it was not clear whether any laws had been broken.

"This is extremely unusual," Boyce said. "I don't think anyone has seen something like this before."

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Associated Press writers Nataliya Vasilyeva in Moscow, Travis Loller and Chris Talbott in Nashville, Joshua Freed in Minneapolis, George Tibbits in Seattle, and Foster Klug and Robert Burns in Washington contributed to this report.

it's late. let me reread, but I thought this was th adoptive's mom's mom.

ETA - who are you quoting so I don't have to reread.............

It is the adoptive mom's mom.
The one who dropped him at the airport.
 
I know many folks are ready to burn this adoptive mother at the stake, but if nothing else, I hope it sheds some much-deserved light on how isolating, and challenging it is to find help for mental illness. Previous posters have done a tremendous job of sharing their personal stories. Really, no one is lining up to offer friendship or assistance. when you're in the middle of a crisis, it's hard to muster the strength to constantly fight for psych insurancem IEPs at school, etc.

I wholeheartedly believe those who say you can't imagine what this is like. To never get a good night's sleep due to a child's mental instability. To have friends and family gradually draw away. Ironically, you can't take this child to church. Yes Jesus would be right there with her/him, but the parishioners may not be. Really this points to a larger picture. Not just adoptees, not just children, but mental illness remains a stigma in this country. It must be someone else's fault---NOT! No one asks to have a child with mental illness.
 
I know many folks are ready to burn this adoptive mother at the stake, but if nothing else, I hope it sheds some much-deserved light on how isolating, and challenging it is to find help for mental illness. Previous posters have done a tremendous job of sharing their personal stories. Really, no one is lining up to offer friendship or assistance. when you're in the middle of a crisis, it's hard to muster the strength to constantly fight for psych insurancem IEPs at school, etc.

I wholeheartedly believe those who say you can't imagine what this is like. To never get a good night's sleep due to a child's mental instability. To have friends and family gradually draw away. Ironically, you can't take this child to church. Yes Jesus would be right there with her/him, but the parishioners may not be. Really this points to a larger picture. Not just adoptees, not just children, but mental illness remains a stigma in this country. It must be someone else's fault---NOT! No one asks to have a child with mental illness.

I have an adopted child with attachment disorder, depression, and an eating disorder. I understand the challenges very well. :)

The problem I have is the further victimization of the child in this case. Some of you are so up in arms about the anger at the mother but where is your anger at those who blame a child? No matter his issues, the boy is a seven year old innocent child.
 
I don't think anyone is belittling the woman's situation. RAD children (if indeed he has RAD) can be dangerous, psychopathic and worse.

What I and many others take offense to is the manner this woman went about disrupting this adoption. I mean seriously...we all know...as I am sure this woman did as well...that you don't stick a 7yo kid on a plane with nothing more than a note saying "I do not wish to parent this child any longer."

Come on!!! Turn him over to DCS...call the authorities. Do something! But the minute this adoption was final that child was hers no differently than if she had given birth to him. As his mother it was HER responsibility to find help/care for him.

As an adoptive parent of a Russian child (who yes has her own set of issues but sending her back...good Lord the thought never even once entered my stream of conciousness) I feel most badly for the little boy. RAD can be awful but many cases can be overcome with proper therapy and intervention. And with him only being here a few months, I am doubtful he received much IF ANY therapy/intervention. She didn't even give him a chance.
 
I guess I am confusing your post with a few others.

The adoptive parents tried for x years, it didn't work and then they turned her over to the state for care?

You may have been thinking of my cousin. Several pages ago, I shared how her adopted daughter was unable to overcome her severe psychological problems, despite years of intense therapy, being in support groups with other teens from her native country (where she could speak her native language), etc. and finally- on the advice of her doctors, and her own wishes, she was sent to live in an institution. But in her case, the state doesn't pay, my cousin and her DH do. She is their DD, they pay for her the same as they would pay for one of their bio children. And yes, it's very expensive. It's slowly bankrupting them, but they haven't given up on her.
 
I know a family that had a foreign adoption (2 actually). They had to "unadopt" and went through the formal process to do it. Severe undisclosed issues that they had no success in treated.

They didn't toss her on a plane though. They dealt with DCF and had it properly handled.

I don't hold anyone in contempt if something like that occurs.

But you don't toss them on a plane and send them back to where you got them. That should be illegal if it isn't and I have no empathy for anyone who does that.

Furthermore--what child takes and unaccompanied minor with noone to pick them up on the other end??:confused3

In this country--when you pay someone $200 to take your child...you get in BIG trouble. This lady is just placating herself to make herself feel better, but yes, she did abandon that child.
 


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