Family adopts russian boy and then sends him back

Regardless of the circumstances, you don't send a child back. Would she have done the same thing if she had adopted the child in the United States? I doubt it.
 
Regardless of the circumstances, you don't send a child back. Would she have done the same thing if she had adopted the child in the United States? I doubt it.


What would stop her from doing the same thing if she had adopted him in the U.S.?
 
When we were preparing to adopt our first child, we had to attend classes held by our agency. We were told to ask the hardest questions. We asked what some other people secretly wondered - what if our child is mentally ill (psycopath, etc.) ? It was a horrifying question to ask and one that I felt guilty about, but it was buried very deeply in the back of my mind. (I like to think I was much more immature and much less wise back then :goodvibes). The agency's answer was another question, "What would you do if your biological child was mentally ill?"

I think this sums it all up. When you adopt a child, he or she is yours and your responsibility - same as when you carry one in your belly. My 12 yr old adopted son saw a blurb about this on the news and asked me what it would take to make me send him back :scared1:. I told him that there was nothing so horrible that would make me do that to him. I told him there are always consequences to bad behavior, but even if he was mentally ill and had to be institutionalized, he will always be mine - I would still visit him, take responsibility for him, love him, etc. I had to reassure both of my adopted boys that they are mine, no different than our biological child.

I wonder if the adoption agency properly screened this woman and also if they properly prepared her? I do have empathy for her (can't help it), but I have more empathy for the child. Its hard to imagine that he will ever be OK. He's now been abandoned twice (at least).

Thsi is tragic for everybody itsn't it?
 
I was one of the first to post on this thread. Some of the replies were actually making me sick, so I swore off this reading more posts.

GMA had a segment about it this morning. I almost turned off the tv, but thought it was best to be pro-active and discuss this with my kids. I didn't want them to go to school and hear things from classmates that might upset them.

I haven't read any posts, but the GMA story was very interesting. It seems this boy was living in some type of family compound. He was not schooled. There is no record of him attending school or the family homeschooling. The mother gave glowing reports to her home adoption agency. She contacted a Russian lawyer to have the adoption anulled.

I could go on forever about this story, but I only wanted to point out another factor that I didn't realize in my initial posts. Yes, the most important tragedy is the boy, second the effect it will have on future adoptions. Lastly the effect it has on adopted children. My kids listened to the story and had tons of nervous questions afterward. I'm confident they understand how this was one story about a crazy, evil woman who abused her child. Unfortunately the reality is that many children, some even DIS children, will hear their parents discussing this story and share their distorted view. My children then have the possibility of running into these confused children and hearing these lies. Children could also tease my kids about this story. It's so sad.

This reminds me of the damage control I had to do shortly after adopting our first child. We had our Russian born daughter baptized shortly after coming home. We were delighted to share this celebration with many friends and family members. Our delight turned to sadness when our pastor discussed our daughter's adoption during in his sermon during the service. We thought of this man as a trusted family friend. He married us, comforted us during the tragic death of my husband's twin brother and mother, etc. How surprised we were to hear him explain how we dared travel to a "communist" country where people sold their children to buy alcohol. Needless to say we never returned to that church.

It is amazing to me how people have such misconceptions about other countries and adoption. I guess it's an extention of racism.

The irony is that shortly after you adopt a child from a different country you see the child as YOUR child, not your Russian, or Chinese, or Haitian child. My children are proud of their heritage and participate in culture camps, etc, but I never preface my relationship with the term adopted. They are my children, period.
 

Something I meant to post...


I guess the major misconception is that Russia is pawning off their troubled childen on other countries. This is far from the case.


Most countries, including Russia, have to make a child "paper ready" in order to make the child available to adopt. This involves a lot of upfront costs for the orphanage. The director of an orphange is only going to pick children they think are desirable to adopt. This is a sad fact.

There are about 22 million children in Russia. There is almost one million in orphanages! There was less than 2500 children adopted to the US last year.

Unfortunately the children that are chosen to be paper ready are viewed as the "cream of the crop". The director doesn't want to lose scare resources on a child that has potentional adoption problems.


Many Russians feel that orphanaged children are undesirable. The government has tried to increase domestic adoptions by offering an "orphan dowry". Rusians who adopt get a stipend. Russians also now have a program similar to our foster care program. Unfortunately many people are using it as a way to earn income in these difficult economic time. Children are being returned to the orphanage through these two programs at an alarming rate. Over 6000 children were returned last year alone, the number is probably going to triple this year.

Russia has a greater problem than just this one failed adoption. The Russian media has seized on this story and the effect will be bad for future adoptions. Sixteen children have been reportedly murdered by their American adoptive parents. Many more have been abused, neglected, force to work, etc by Russian adoptive parents. Russia needs to work on the entire adoptive system. Maybe this incident will bring change.
 
I was one of the first to post on this thread. Some of the replies were actually making me sick, so I swore off this reading more posts.

GMA had a segment about it this morning. I almost turned off the tv, but thought it was best to be pro-active and discuss this with my kids. I didn't want them to go to school and hear things from classmates that might upset them.

I haven't read any posts, but the GMA story was very interesting. It seems this boy was living in some type of family compound. He was not schooled. There is no record of him attending school or the family homeschooling. The mother gave glowing reports to her home adoption agency. She contacted a Russian lawyer to have the adoption anulled.

I could go on forever about this story, but I only wanted to point out another factor that I didn't realize in my initial posts. Yes, the most important tragedy is the boy, second the effect it will have on future adoptions. Lastly the effect it has on adopted children. My kids listened to the story and had tons of nervous questions afterward. I'm confident they understand how this was one story about a crazy, evil woman who abused her child. Unfortunately the reality is that many children, some even DIS children, will hear their parents discussing this story and share their distorted view. My children then have the possibility of running into these confused children and hearing these lies. Children could also tease my kids about this story. It's so sad.

This reminds me of the damage control I had to do shortly after adopting our first child. We had our Russian born daughter baptized shortly after coming home. We were delighted to share this celebration with many friends and family members. Our delight turned to sadness when our pastor discussed our daughter's adoption during in his sermon during the service. We thought of this man as a trusted family friend. He married us, comforted us during the tragic death of my husband's twin brother and mother, etc. How surprised we were to hear him explain how we dared travel to a "communist" country where people sold their children to buy alcohol. Needless to say we never returned to that church.

It is amazing to me how people have such misconceptions about other countries and adoption. I guess it's an extention of racism.

The irony is that shortly after you adopt a child from a different country you see the child as YOUR child, not your Russian, or Chinese, or Haitian child. My children are proud of their heritage and participate in culture camps, etc, but I never preface my relationship with the term adopted. They are my children, period.

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I am far less concerned with this woman than the ramifications of what she has done. (The more I read/watch, the less respect I have for her anyway.) I have mentioned the THOUSANDS of children who may never be able to find loving homes because of her thoughtless actions and heaven knows, that is bad enough. I know that if I was the woman waiting to go pick up my child and someone like her ruined my chance at motherhood, I'd want to do her bodily harm. I think of when we left our DD after our first meeting and went home to await our court date. If, in between trips, an incident like this had happened and kept me from my DD forever, it would have crushed me. After all we had been through and to be so close to having that precious child, only to have our future together ripped away because this woman couldn't get rid of that kid fast enough.....:headache: Magnify that by the several thousand families who may never exist because of her. :sad2:

But you raise a valid point. What is this going to do to so many adopted children (not only those adopted from Russia) to get the message that adoption is NOT forever, not matter how many times we have assured them it is? Will they be teased by classmates about being "sent back"? Lord knows the general public will be fed a steady diet of "Russian adoptees are dangerous and defective." Will children hear about this story and experience anxiety about their security within their families? Yeah....probably.

This woman has done a world of harm not only to that child by shipping him off like excess baggage, but to who knows how many adopted kids. You're right....Attitudes about adoptees are a lot like racism, but it seems some people feel to spout ignorant attitudes about these children openly and this story will only feed their prejudices.

If my child wants to know anything about it, I know what I'll have to say.

I'm now sitting back, waiting for details. I fear this woman may be what I have long categorized as a "saver." Some pieces are falling into place. Without going into detail, savers tend to be more disappointed than the average adoptive parent (who usually adopts of of the desire to have a child to love and care for) when the child is not suitably grateful for being "saved." When the child does not live up to the expectations of the saver parent....and those expectations were unrealistic to begin with....the fallout is not pretty. International adoptive parents run into their fair share of saver parents. Oh well....I digress. Those who are not familiar with savers would need multiple posts to get my drift. But there will be some among the posters who know exactly what I speak of.

Halloweenqueen's experience was the same as ours. The baby home had a finite amount of resources to spend on getting children paper ready. There would never be enough money to get all of them paper ready.....not even most or many of them. Only a small percentage would be paper ready at any given time. We often heard 10%. So they concentrated their efforts on the "most adoptable" children. Say the social worker could only get 2-4 children paper ready at a time, she would pick the ones most likely to be selected for adoption. Russians tend to be very practical people. They have to be. To spend your limited time and money getting "unadoptable" children paper ready when there are "adoptable" children in the same group makes no sense. It is a waste in their eyes. You will then have a paper ready UNadoptable child and a non-paper ready adoptable child on your hands. :confused3 They tend to concentrate their efforts on the children most likely to be desired by adoptive parents. It only makes sense. I'm not saying all these kids will be Gerber babies with chunky thighs, the way DD was, but it is a myth that they foist off the most unhealthy and unstable on to foreign adoptive parents. Let's face it, they want repeat business.
 
Does anyone remember this story from 2008: http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2008/10/georgia_woman_leaves_12yearold.html

Nebraska's law has since been changed, but this wasn't the only child whose parents were so desperate they drove from another state to leave them in Nebraska. That's the closest thing I can think of to what the adoptive mother did, although at least for the Nebraska dropoffs it was LEGAL and the child was being left in a safe place, not sent off to a stranger at an airport.

A woman drove her 12-year-old son from Georgia to Nebraska to abandon him under the state's unique safe-haven law, the 20th child left at a hospital since the law took effect in July.

The youngster is the third child from out of state driven to Nebraska to be abandoned under the law.

Nebraska's law is the only one in the country that allows caregivers to abandon children as old as 18 at hospitals without fear of prosecution.



Updated: The Georgia woman, who was raised in Nebraska, told the Journal Star her son was first suspended from school in the first grade for various infractions, and by the 5th grade he was flunking school, stealing, lying to and defying adults, including his probation officer.

An expensive psychiatric evaluation showed the boy was defiant but the doctor would not prescribe any medicine, and overnight stays in juvenile detention made no apparent impression, she said.

"There's no fear in this little boy," she told the Journal Star.

In other words, PLENTY of children being reared in their biological families have serious mental disorders. I don't think the country's pediatric psych beds are filled with only children who were adopted.

Although the actions of the mother who sent her sonback to Russia actions affected thousands of innocent people, she's no different from any other parent who wants to abandon their problem child. It's just that she went about unloading her problem in a horrific way. There are so many other things she could have done. Although the safe haven laws no longer apply, people still can (and DO!) drop older kids in ERs. They can be prosecuted for abandonment, but guess what? No one's going to suggest the child be put back in that home. So they win, even if they have to do jail time or pay a fine. The child is no longer their responsibility.

I still say this woman could have found something LEGAL to do to get the child out of her home, IF indeed he does have a psychiatric problem.

I also agree that she sounds like a "saver." Orphans aren't like animals in shelters. You don't adopt one because you want to "save" them. You adopt because you want to be a PARENT. Period! Otherwise it won't end well, just like when people choose to get pregnant for the wrong reasons it doesn't usually end well. (getting pregnant to "get back" at someone, to keep a man from leaving, etc. Some other reason besides actually WANTING a baby.)
 
I will reserve passing judgment on this situation until I have much, much more information.. All we have right now is bits and pieces and having personally known a couple who had to give up a child that they adopted from Russia, there's a possibility that this little boy truly was a serious danger to himself and others..

Since it's basically still a "breaking story", I'm sure that much more information will eventually come to light in regards to exactly what happened and why..

It's sad for everyone involved..
 
It is very sad, especially for that little boy, he'll have even more issues now...

Apparently, she is a single, 26 year old mother with another child, sounds like she just couldn't cope.

Obviously, there were services she could have turned to, but I think her age and lack of support were contributing factors.

For better of for worse, your child is your child, biological or adopted. I'm not ready to string the mother up, let the proper authorities handle the best way to deal with this unfortunate chain of events.

Look at the thousands of loving people that adopt children, do we ever hear the success stories?
 
....and having personally known a couple who had to give up a child that they adopted from Russia, there's a possibility that this little boy truly was a serious danger to himself and others..

I have also known a family who "dissolved" their adoption. Their child was abusing other children in the house and, despite multiple attempts at therapy, separating the children within the house, etc., they could not stop it. They arranged a private adoption with another family who went into the situation with eyes wide open, were committed to leaving her an only child... and as far as I know, the little girl is doing very well in her new placement.

I have no doubt that, whatever this boy's issues were, the adoptive mother obviously found herself in over her head. As sad as it is, maybe ending the relationship was the best thing for everyone. HOWEVER, shipping the boy back to Russia unannounced was a *terrible* way to handle it, and I believe the mother deserves to be prosecuted for child endangerment/abandonment, etc.

If the woman was internet-savvy enough to arrange his international travel and an escort, then she should have been internet-savvy enough to learn the "right" way to end the adoption. *Or* she should have called someone (her agency, DCS, etc.) who could have told her the "right" way to do it.
 
I believe the mother deserves to be prosecuted for child endangerment/abandonment, etc.

As others have said, we have to wait for all the details, but I do think there's a good chance this woman will be charged with something.

I believe they said that authorities are questioning her today. So we shall see.

ETA: I just came across this article. It looks like they are investigating abuse and child endangerment charges. They're trying to decide whether charges should be brought in Tennessee or elsewhere.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/12/da-location-crucial-charges-adoption-case/
 
That's awful! We just adopted our youngest 3. I can't imagine what that has done to the child.
 
It is very sad, especially for that little boy, he'll have even more issues now...

Apparently, she is a single, 26 year old mother with another child, sounds like she just couldn't cope.

Obviously, there were services she could have turned to, but I think her age and lack of support were contributing factors.

For better of for worse, your child is your child, biological or adopted. I'm not ready to string the mother up, let the proper authorities handle the best way to deal with this unfortunate chain of events.

Look at the thousands of loving people that adopt children, do we ever hear the success stories
?

I would imagine through our peers and families, we would hear positive stories on a regular basis.

I'm sorry--there may be more to the story--but this woman has no conscious to handle it in the manner in which she did.

Yes, I've known 2 moms to give up an adopted child (while keeping their others)--so I'm not judging her feeling she needed to do such a thing.

But it made headlines b/c you can't even do that to a dog and be found of good concious. She did this to a human.

Convicted felons have more rights than the human dignity she took away from that child to abandon him in that manner.


Those posting that her behavior could make other adoptions difficult for other well meaning families just makes it all the more disgusting as to what she did.
 
HOWEVER, shipping the boy back to Russia unannounced was a *terrible* way to handle it, and I believe the mother deserves to be prosecuted for child endangerment/abandonment, etc.

You know, I've wondered about that. I suppose the airline could have notified the authorities en route but the Russian press were on hand to film the child's arrival.
 
I am going to reiterate my opinion that the fact the boy's mother will not talk is pretty damning. Today she refused to talk with the authorities in Shelbyville, in fact she and her mother both stated, via their attorney, that they will only talk if they are charged with a crime. My question is why? Hmmm..perhaps because they know they did something heinous and very wrong?

Because this happened very near me it is all over the local news, as you can imagine. Apparently tomorrow the sherriff of her county will be meeting with the DA to see if there are any kind of criminal charges that can be filed against her. The federal govt. has already told the sherriff she has broken no federal laws, as far as they can tell. I am hoping and PRAYING they will find SOMETHING to charge her with. This woman does not deserve to walk away scot free. I got the impression from the press conference that the sherriff does want to try and charge her with something...otherwise there will be hell to pay. People want justice for this child. Even if he was a monster, this woman did NOT go about disrupting the adoption the right way and probably only traumatized him further.

Here is a link to our local news story, included is a video of the sherriff's press conference:

http://www.wsmv.com/news/23124633/detail.html
 
You know, I've wondered about that. I suppose the airline could have notified the authorities en route but the Russian press were on hand to film the child's arrival.

From what United Airlines has stated, I don't think they realized anything was amiss. The grandmother gave the name of a person who would pick up the boy in Moscow and that's all UA requires for a minor to travel unaccompanied. For all we know she told them that he was going to visit a relative.

I am willing to bet that either the man who picked up the child contacted the press, OR he had let the ministry of educ. know ahead of time what was going down and THEY contacted the press.
 
You know, I've wondered about that. I suppose the airline could have notified the authorities en route but the Russian press were on hand to film the child's arrival.

Were they? The footage I've seen said it was taken as the boy was escorted to a medical clinic from the Ministry of Education & Science. (By the way for anyone who doesn't know, the Ministry of Education & Science is the department of the government which oversees the orphanages/adoption process.) I assumed that the press was notified after he arrived in Moscow and they figured out what was going on.

I think, as far as the airline knew, the boy was being picked up by a friend of the family or something (that is, they didn't know what was up, nor did they ask too many questions besides "what is the name of the person who will be meeting this boy in Moscow.")
 
I think, as far as the airline knew, the boy was being picked up by a friend of the family or something (that is, they didn't know what was up, nor did they ask too many questions besides "what is the name of the person who will be meeting this boy in Moscow.")

I've wondered about that.

I've flown internationally with my child twice -- once to Mexico and once to Canada, I've also taken him on a cruise that left the country. Every single time I've needed to prove that 1) I'm his parent and 2) He doesn't have another parent who would need to consent to him leaving the country (like the mother in this story I'm a single adoptive parent -- his birth certificate lists only me) before I was allowed to board the plane or ship.

Are the standards less for an unaccompanied minor? It seems like they would, at the minimum, be the same. So how was Grandma able to just put him on the plane? Did she lie to the airline? Did the mother get something notarized?
 
I am going to reiterate my opinion that the fact the boy's mother will not talk is pretty damning. Today she refused to talk with the authorities in Shelbyville, in fact she and her mother both stated, via their attorney, that they will only talk if they are charged with a crime. My question is why? Hmmm..perhaps because they know they did something heinous and very wrong?

Because this happened very near me it is all over the local news, as you can imagine. Apparently tomorrow the sherriff of her county will be meeting with the DA to see if there are any kind of criminal charges that can be filed against her. The federal govt. has already told the sherriff she has broken no federal laws, as far as they can tell. I am hoping and PRAYING they will find SOMETHING to charge her with. This woman does not deserve to walk away scot free. I got the impression from the press conference that the sherriff does want to try and charge her with something...otherwise there will be hell to pay. People want justice for this child. Even if he was a monster, this woman did NOT go about disrupting the adoption the right way and probably only traumatized him further.

Here is a link to our local news story, included is a video of the sherriff's press conference:

http://www.wsmv.com/news/23124633/detail.html

I think their attorney gave them excellent advice and that they are smart to listen to him. Too bad she (the adoptive mother) did not contact an attorney in the first place. I have dealt with the court system and families and volunteered as a GAL. The crap that the so-called authorities will pull to prove their cases and make themselves look good is frequently reprehensible.
 
I know this is a little crazy but I can't help wondering if she contacted someone in Russia who told her to handle it this way, and then that person contacted the media & turned it into a circus- maybe with the intent to halt or dramatically change American adoptions. I have read over and over that some Russians are not happy with the American adoptions.

I'm not condoning what she did-common sense & decency still should have prevented her from sending him alone on a transatlantic flight- just sort of wondering...
 


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