Extremely annoyed....vent

[C.Ann]

I'm a strong breastfeeding advocate, but I think that if a mother cannot breastfeed because of a health reason or other extenuating circumstances that is fine. I imagine it would be tough to breastfeed while working a demanding job for example. However, I've had a few women tell me they weren't going to do it because their husband said it would turn them off or because they didn't want to have saggy breasts. In those cases, they maybe shouldn't have had children if they weren't ready to put their child above something like perky ****s. But I would never say anything to them.

Wow! That's a pretty harsh statement to make about something that really isn't any of your business, don't you think?

Not much disgusts me here, but yor comment certainly did.

I have to agree.. That was pretty shocking to me - and I've been on these boards for a long, long time..

 

[CaliforniaDreamin]

thought ya'll would get a kick out of this---breast feeding or not---it's funny!
http://www.etsy.com/listing/4868385...ebook&utm_medium=PageTools&utm_campaign=Share

That's pretty clever! lol

 

[SaraJayne]

I embellished nothing. I have a hard time believing you didn't receive any dirty looks...or maybe it has something to do with where you live. I don't know and I don't care. People are just so mean. My god, just live and let live. I felt insulted by what she wrote. She felt insulted by what her friends trainer or someone like that said. Are her feelings more valid than mine? Are yours more valid than mine? No. But I can promise you, I'll get over it. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna call someone out for being insulting, just like you felt the need to call me out for...something. Anything.
Why don't you go back and highlight a little more of my posts, like how in just about every single one, I say I have never insulted someone who didn't breastfeed. Oh, but you won't do that, will you? It's much more fun to pick and choose the fun stuff.

Oh, and I never called the OP crazy. I was responding to her post where she talked about bf nazis are crazy.

Thank you for understanding. I'm going to bow out of this thread gracefully, but before I do, I want to make it clear that I don't care who breastfeeds or not. I would never insult someone who didn't breastfeed and would like the same consideration in return. Unfortunately, that will never happen. I have witnessed threads about BF and they get really nasty really quickly. It's a shame that either side has to defend their decision on how to feed their baby. People will always find ways to stick their little insults in conversations that do not call for insults.
Peace

 

[SaraJayne]

With all due respect, what are the negatives? Unfortunately, BF is still not encouraged enough and the support systems are not in place so that every woman who wants to do it has the chance. Perhaps I am reading too much into this and please correct me if my assumptions are wrong, but I gather that for you the negatives would be having to deal with unfriendly stares and remarks etc. Sadly, I do think you have to have a certain "personality" to BF. My sister refused because our mom never BF us and, like you, doesn't think it's all that beneficial. She also didn't want to deal with the possibility of having to nurse in public.

For me, the negatives were the leaking, the not being able to go anywhere by myself for longer than an hour or two, feeling like my body wasn't my "own" and the sheer amount of time breastfeeding took (I had a pokey eater).

I BF both children and for the most part, enjoyed it. Let me tell you though, it's a great excuse to disappear for an hour or so at family functions.

 

[princessmom29]

No one should have told you that you had to keep trying. I'm sorry that was your experience. Only moms know what is best for them and their babies. I know a lot of the militant bf advocates use guilt techniques on new moms, which is taking advantage of women when they are the most vulnerable and hormonal. I totally see how the term bf nazi came into use. I just wish everyone would not paint all bf moms with the same brush. It's insulting and hurts.

It actually wasn't the moms. All of the other moms I knew who were BFing were helpful and supportive without bwing pusy. It was the Ped's office that acted like I wasn't trying hard enough and refused to realize that I really was doing what I was claiming and DD was still losing weight. They basically insinuated that I didn't want it to work and wasn't really trying. I have never had a BFing mom give me grief about formula. It was typically people without children or older people with grown children who felt like they were allowed to be rude. I think that other moms who are in the same situation at that moment understand how hard it is and tend to cut one another more slack.

 

[kpm76]

For me, the negatives were the leaking, the not being able to go anywhere by myself for longer than an hour or two, feeling like my body wasn't my "own" and the sheer amount of time breastfeeding took (I had a pokey eater).

I BF both children and for the most part, enjoyed it. Let me tell you though, it's a great excuse to disappear for an hour or so at family functions.

Yeah, I can see your point. It is a sacrifice. I never responded to the pump very well and DD hated the bottle anyway so I was never away for more than 2-4 hours for the first year of her life. The upside is that she was a quick eater so it was not terribly time consuming.

I bolded the last part because that was one of my favorite aspects of Bfing Of course, I did get called out a few times when I would "disappear." The family would say "you can nurse on every bench in WDW, on an airplane, in shopping malls and you have to escape to a bedroom at a family party?"

 

[CaliforniaDreamin]

What's your question? That I didn't leave the thread? I was going to but made the mistake of looking one more time and found a lovely post that put words in my mouth saying that I had written it was ok to insult women who don't breast feed. And she also mentioned the "infamous" 12 hour flight where the woman next to her was topless the whole time. I called BS on that one, and she then backtracked in order to "clarify" that maybe it wasn't the whole 12 hours a topless woman was sitting in her row.
And I asked her four times to quote me where I said it was ok to insult anyone. She never did. So....it's ok for someone to put words in my mouth. Maybe I should try this little game andtwist everyones words around. I'm fine with people disagreeing with me, I'm not fine when someone blatently lies to try and make me out to be a nazi. I am not, and if you read all my posts, you will see I have made a point about "it's a moms choice" and " I never have or will insult someone who bottle feeds." Why don't you jump people who aren't that considerate? Or the liars? Why am I the one on the thread trying to make nice and getting attacked? I swear, if I wrote a post saying the sky is blue, I would be flamed like no one's business. I think people just love to stir up the pot, so they go after the nice posters and bash them hoping to piss them off. I am not pissed, so sorry. It's just so stupid that I don't lie or insult and yet my **** gets jumped everytime. I have responded to a few posts where people chose to bottle feed. Not ONE time I have ever bashed anyone, or even hinted that I disagree with them.
So theres your answer. I had a feeling (this is the Dis after all), that someone seeing that I was leaving the thread would decide to attribute insults to me that don't even exist.
Even in the post you quoted, it straight up says "I want to make it clear that I don't care who breastfeeds or not. I would never insult someone who didn't breastfeed and would like the same consideration in return". I don't really understand your confusion. Perhaps you can clear it up minus the "smilies".

 

[rie'smom]

Breastfeeding or bottle feeding is a personal choice and none of my business or anyone else's business either.

 

[SaraJayne]

What's your question? That I didn't leave the thread? I was going to but made the mistake of looking one more time and found a lovely post that put words in my mouth saying that I had written it was ok to insult women who don't breast feed. And she also mentioned the "infamous" 12 hour flight where the woman next to her was topless the whole time. I called BS on that one, and she then backtracked in order to "clarify" that maybe it wasn't the whole 12 hours a topless woman was sitting in her row.
And I asked her four times to quote me where I said it was ok to insult anyone. She never did. So....it's ok for someone to put words in my mouth. Maybe I should try this little game andtwist everyones words around. I'm fine with people disagreeing with me, I'm not fine when someone blatently lies to try and make me out to be a nazi. I am not, and if you read all my posts, you will see I have made a point about "it's a moms choice" and " I never have or will insult someone who bottle feeds." Why don't you jump people who aren't that considerate? Or the liars? Why am I the one on the thread trying to make nice and getting attacked? I swear, if I wrote a post saying the sky is blue, I would be flamed like no one's business. I think people just love to stir up the pot, so they go after the nice posters and bash them hoping to piss them off. I am not pissed, so sorry. It's just so stupid that I don't lie or insult and yet my **** gets jumped everytime. I have responded to a few posts where people chose to bottle feed. Not ONE time I have ever bashed anyone, or even hinted that I disagree with them.
So theres your answer. I had a feeling (this is the Dis after all), that someone seeing that I was leaving the thread would decide to attribute insults to me that don't even exist.
Even in the post you quoted, it straight up says "I want to make it clear that I don't care who breastfeeds or not. I would never insult someone who didn't breastfeed and would like the same consideration in return". I don't really understand your confusion. Perhaps you can clear it up minus the "smilies".

You are the only person I see getting upset in this thread and going off on people.

Most everyone else is having a calm, respectful discussion.

 

[Heidict]

You know, people who look to be offended are usually successful.

I agree. The OP said "As long as you are not flashing your b***s all over the place,". I took that to mean the few women that go to the extreme and use their breastfeeding as an opportunity to give everyone a free show. I don't believe, at least in my interpretation, that she was referring to women who are a bit more discreet when in public. I'm not talking about hiding under a blanket discreet but not undressing either. YMMV

 

[Gigi22]

I'm sorry--this third party was eavesdropping on a private conversation and took it upon herself to render an extremely judgmental comment? I'd tell her to take her opinion, and her big ears, and shove 'em! Really!

 

[CaliforniaDreamin]

You are the only person I see getting upset in this thread and going off on people.

Most everyone else is having a calm, respectful discussion.

YOU are picking me out because I seem nice. I have supported both sides. It's a Wed night, you are bored and want to stir the pot. I regret NOTHING I have said, I have not said anything derogatory about anyone with the exception of Disneyadore who likes to make up lies about me and refuses to answer questions when she is called on her BS. Calm, respectful discussion? Ummm, did you miss the whole arguement (that I was NOT involved in) about women chosing not to breast feed because they would miss their perky breasts? A PP said thats about the worst thing she has ever seen written on the Dis. I am completely capable of having a calm, respectful discussion with people who don't lie, make up stories or insult other posters. It's COMPLETE BS that I'm getting upset and going off on people.You picked one of the very few posters on this thread who supports both sides of the argument. Thats idiotic.That tells me you don't have the guts to pick on someone with a firm stand. They would eat you alive. I don't have time for your passive agressive crap. It's the crazy ones I have a hard time dealing with.

 

[monkeybug]

thought ya'll would get a kick out of this---breast feeding or not---it's funny!
http://www.etsy.com/listing/4868385...ebook&utm_medium=PageTools&utm_campaign=Share

Ha!! I wish I was brave enough!
I did just order a "hooter hider" off of etsy though.

 

[CaliforniaDreamin]

I'm sorry--this third party was eavesdropping on a private conversation and took it upon herself to render an extremely judgmental comment? I'd tell her to take her opinion, and her big ears, and shove 'em! Really!

Who even knows if that was the real story. The whole "your baby will die if you don't breast feed" seems a little hard to believe to me.