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I wish I could help you. My oldest loves the deep pressure so he wanted to wear his harness, he would wear it around the house too and he wanted it until he was about 5. My youngest tolerated it, didn't love it, but tolerated it. Oh and my oldest stayed in the stroller until about 5 when i made him get out of it! LOL

Have you tried one that looks like a backpack and then he can carry some of his own stuff in it?

I wish i could be of more help. Sorry. I hope somoene has some good ideas for you! :hug:

Daisy
Thanks. :hug: *Sigh* yes. I got one of those little backpack animal harnesses...no go. I even got him his own cute little backpack to see if he might like that but he still doesn't understand "carrying his own stuff" and how great that could be...for mom. ;) He does like the brushing therapy but that's about it. ;) So far he isn't talking yet (will be 3 in Nov. and communication is severely limited. I know he understand s some of what I say, but his stubbornness is legendary (the EEG nurse said that will serve him well in life :rotfl: ), so following directions is almost nil ATM. So then I tried a wristband and he ripped that thing off lickety split. Just like w/ the shoe situtation, we're having him try things for just a few seconds at a time. that worked for a rocking horse and the swing to get him to sit in it and be OK. We're able to at least get both shoes on (some days) and count one-two-three and he rips them off. So far there isn't much of a span of time between the counting but getting them ON as huge. One baby step at a time.
 
I used to put DS in overalls (OshKosh makes particularly sturdy ones) and just used the back like a handle. He wasn't much of a runner, but he did have a talent for evaporating into thin air (still does), and would touch, eat, and/or stick his fingers into ANYTHING.
 
I used to put DS in overalls (OshKosh makes particularly sturdy ones) and just used the back like a handle. He wasn't much of a runner, but he did have a talent for evaporating into thin air (still does), and would touch, eat, and/or stick his fingers into ANYTHING.

Good tip. ;) I haven't put him in those since he was wee little. I tried to put a snap crotch shirt on him a few weeks ago and WHOA! That wasn't happanin! :eek:Sometimes he doesn't even want a shirt on but he doens't seem to have a sensativity to the cloth or tags. THANKS! I'll give that a whirl tomorrow. :goodvibes
 

LOVE eyebrow waxing! :rotfl2: Tames the jungle eyebrows. ;)

Anyway! Question for your guys that have been through this. Daniel doesn't tolerate (currently though we're working on it) any kind of harness or wrist leash. The EEG he has last week was horrendous. He screamed and arched his back the whole time (45 minutes). :( And that was just because of his head being wrapped w/ gauze. I'm not optimistic about getting a harness on him for our WDW trip, but has anyone ever used something like a Kinderkord or a retractable dog leash and attached it to a belt loop or around the waist? He's getting so he doesn't want to be in his stroller as much anymore but if I put him down to roam he'll take off.

Ideas welcome! :goodvibes
Have you thought about how he will handle the restraints on rides at WDW?

My ds also would not tolerate any type of harness. He also refused to be in a stroller or our arms. My dh refused to take him to WDW due to that, so I don't know how he would have handled the ride restraints.

We used to put shirts or jackets with hoods on him and used the hood as a handle. (Don't buy jackets with removable hoods-we were left holding a hood with our child fleeing across a parking lot :scared1:) We used the overalls trick, too.
 
Have you thought about how he will handle the restraints on rides at WDW?

Yeah we have. We took him last year. Then, the only rides we took him on were the ones he didn't get restrained in. Haunted Mansion, It's a Small World, the Carousel, etc.. It may go similarly this year, or it could be better or worse. It wasn't great last year but he's made great strides since then and I'm hoping I might get the use of a GAC to keep buffers between him and masses which are his biggest insecurities. We're just going to keep trying to expose him to things and push him carefully as we have to. I have hope. :lovestruc
 
If you've gone through this season of parenting how did you handle it? How long did it last? Do parents with "typical" children go through this? Maybe it's because I've been doing this for so many years and have many more to go! Whose bright idea was it to space our kids out so far? Mine! And we didn't know our kids were on the spectrum until we had 4 already. They really are mild but affected enough to make life hard!

Does anybody have any insight for me? Am I alone in this? Thanks and sorry this is so long!

I have "typical" kids and I know exactly what you're talking about. The other day my 2.5 year old yelled "Dora" and all I could think was - why are you yelling at me I do so much for you and if I watch another Dora I'm going to poke my own eyes out.

I could not imagen what it would be like with a child with ASD. Know that you're not alone. You probably just have it worse then the rest of us but I think we all get it.
 
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@ Daisy, I just read your post about your oldest and the gun. I wish I had any advice to help. I just wanted to give you a hug. You handled it perfectly. Maybe that had an impression. :hug: :hug:
And I don't blame you one iota for wanting to get back to work! I am an artist and I work in my home. My biggest "escape" is doing my art and I get to do that while my DH watches the kids. I'm exceedingly lucky and I know it. I know we've all been there too, just spent a liiiitle longer in the bathroom just for a little "peace". ;):laughing: (While the kids bang on the door...which is why I didn't add the word "quiet")
 
Hey, everyone. Hope all is well in Schmolland. DS returns from camp tomorrow. I am hoping that the fact that we received not a single letter, in spite of the supply of self-addressed, stamped envelopes I gave him, indicates that he was having too much fun to write. We pick him up at the airport tomorrow afternoon. I still can't believe he flew on his own!

Disney advice, anyone? We have reservations for three nights at the Grand Floridian Sugar Loaf at the end of August. I understand that there's construction going on and that it is well...noisy. Schmollish sisters and brothers, I know you know what loud noises can do to our kids. I don't want DS in a constant state of anxiety because of heavy machinery. We are talking about a boy who frantically covers his ears when he sees a parked motorcycle.We love the GF and this will be our 4th visit, but I am thinking of switching to the Boardwalk Inn or the Contemporary to avoid the noise. Does anyone have any thoughts or experiences with these properties? Thanks.
 
Disney advice, anyone? We have reservations for three nights at the Grand Floridian Sugar Loaf at the end of August. I understand that there's construction going on and that it is well...noisy. Schmollish sisters and brothers, I know you know what loud noises can do to our kids. I don't want DS in a constant state of anxiety because of heavy machinery. We are talking about a boy who frantically covers his ears when he sees a parked motorcycle.We love the GF and this will be our 4th visit, but I am thinking of switching to the Boardwalk Inn or the Contemporary to avoid the noise. Does anyone have any thoughts or experiences with these properties? Thanks.

I can just tell you from our experience staying at the GF when there was some refurbing going on that we didn't hear anything. At least I don't recall hearing any and it seemed to be a really big renovation on that building (which was right next to the main building where we were staying) because there were plastic drapes all over that building. I hope all goes well for you and your kiddo! :goodvibes:thumbsup2
 
Hi Smollish sisters- and brothers:yay: I'm sorry I haven't posted lately; we went to WDW in June (still thinking about a trip report; not sure if it's a good idea or not:confused3) and then it was back into work at an insane pace. We're working with a new therapist for DD, so we'll just have to see how it goes. Switched to a new church, and WOW- is it awesome for our kids. They provided DD w/ a 1:1 volunteer and she wears her ear protectors; she's loving it and doing sooooo well. They have a well developed and growing special needs ministry for kids and adults, so I'm starting to help out with that.

On the downside, don't ya hate those moments when an emotional wave just kinda breaks over you for no reason and without warning- I think I'm gonna start calling them "rogue waves" because they seem to come out of nowhere. Tonight I was giving DD her shower and as I was wrapping her after into "caitie burrito" her favorite part because she loves the deep pressure, i brought her close for a second to wrap my arms around her and realized she'd gotten taller again. And I had a moment of clarity that I'll probably still be showering her when she's taller than I am, and she'll still love "caitie burrito"... and it was all I could do not to lose it. I feel so stupid. I AM grateful for all she can do, I do accept who she is- so I get frustrated when that overwhelming fresh grief/sadness stuff hits again. It's like a record that spins around; just when you think you're past it, it comes around again.

Sorry for the pity party, just wondering if it happens to y'all too, or if it's just me and for some reason, I just can't get it through my very thick skull.
 
Ireland_Nicole - "Rogue Waves" that is such an apt description. I think it is like grief about anything, you go along for ages just fine, and then wham, for no apparent reason the wave hits. It's been like that for me since Jonathan's diagnosis and is very similar to what I have experienced since my husband's death. I've learned you just have to accept them for what they are, acknowledge the legitimacy for your feelings and then look around and be grateful for where you are and what you have. I have learned that it can always be worse.

I had just such a moment this weekend...I was on a high from Jonathan picking up books and actually reading to all of us, unheard of at home! Then wham, complete meltdown over a new restaurant that he didn't want to be at, but didn't want to leave either.

He has gotten so big at 8 and I realized that my days are numbered for being able to physically move or remove him from a situation as necessary :guilty: It makes me so sad to think about still doing this in 2, 5, 10 years. :sad2: Then, I get a snuggle and a kiss and a beaming "Mom" when I get home from work and I am so grateful for what I never dared to dream for! Hang in there and don't get down for a perfectly normal feeling, the main thing is you're not getting stuck in your grief. :)

On another note, I wanted to thank everyone for your congratulations on Jonathan's birthday and our DVC purchase. I'm over the moon about running away for a bit of mommy time, but I'm still feeling too guilty to tell my kids where I'm going. :lmao: Is it wrong to lie to a 5 year old? :lmao::lmao:

Have a great night everyone.
 
I love the rogue wave analogy, since that is what it really is for our kids, not one wave but I bunch of waves that coincide (stack up) to make a monster to overwhelm our kids. any one of the waves that makes it up would be manageable, all together, the boat is going upside down.
Is it OK if I borrow this for my presentations.
bookwormde
 
We finally medicated our first son because he just couldn't focus. He daydreamed his life away and was frustrating everyone! The medicine worked wonders through grade school and middle school. He's in high school now and won't take it anymore. He's doing okay without it because he has better coping skills. The medicine can help but it still scares me, especially with kids on the spectrum that may have more underlying neurological issues. My oldest has had some mild tics/OCD tendencies that come out in stress. So, for him, the meds made his tics/OCD go away but it has the potential to make them worse. That scares me. I have a 7 year old daughter that I know would benefit from medicine but she also shows mild signs of tics/OCD, too. I know so much more now than I did 10 years ago and I'm too scared to put her on medicine. My niece is similiar to my kids and when she went on focusing meds (can't remember if it was Ritalin, Focalin or whatever) she had a psychotic episode and thought demons were talking to her and also began washing her hands constantly! It eventually went away when she went off the meds but it scared the &^% out of me! The decision to go on meds or not is a big one and should be done carefully. As scared as I am of the meds I have to admit I believe they saved my oldest son!

We have a 9 year old DS with ADHD who was medicated for about seven months. We started on very low but progressively greater dosages of Biphentin and then when that stopped working he was switched to Adderall. He had a definite increase in tics while on the medications - his psychiatrist said it could be the meds or maybe just 8 yr old boy tics. By the third dosage increase he began having what we called psychotic episodes - not professionally diagnosed as such. He was suicidal, threatened both his sister and I and really was not "there" when we tried to talk him through it. DH and I were terrified. We pulled him from the meds completely and have not looked back in the past eight months. His tics disappeared off meds as well.

We have our son back. He is happy, sunny, funny (and hyper :laughing: ) but HIM again. On the meds, he really wasn't "there". Yes, it was easier for the school to handle him, but he had stopped eating and growing and was in our terms - zombie boy.

Since getting off the drugs he has shot up two inches and eats like a horse. It's so amazing to see him eating again. Life is much more chaotic, but "normal" for us.

I know, absolutely that the medications are a godsend for many, but for our family, it was the worst possible experience.

Now we turn ourselves to working very closely with the learning services coordinator, making sure his ILP covers ALL accomodations. We had sort of let the school take the lead on this the past two years since his diagnosis, but it has become clear after his final report for this year that much more needs to be done for him. This year I will squeak!

I think some of the issue may have been that he came into the year medicated and no issue to be managed in class, but in December when we quit the meds, things got much more difficult to manage by comparison. There are several kids like my son in his grade and they all seemed to end up in one class together. Again, by comparison, his focus decreased and keeping him on task became much more challenging. He is now behind in math, his reading is average but his writing output is very low. Verbally he is great, so oral testing will have to be more of a component etc.

It's been a huge two year learning curve for us. Initially we relied on the "professionals" to guide us, but we have learned the hard way, that WE have to become the professionals with regards to our child/ren. You're absolutely right that choosing whether or not to use medication is a HUGE decision. We feel like we were "guided" into the Rx route by the school initially - to "help" him, and then got into the "wheel" of busy docs that prescribe but don't properly follow up.

The night of DS's final episode, when he begged me to "please, please hide the kinves because he wanted to run himself onto one" we put in a frantic emergency call to his psychiatrist. No response. The next morning we had decided to pull him off the meds we called again and his receptionist said he was out of the office and only available for emergencies. I told her the circumstances and said in my opinion it was an emergency. She said she'd let him know when he called in and if he felt it was important he would call back. We have NEVER heard from him. At that point we went to the family doc, told him what had happened and what we were doing and that was that with they psychiatrist for us. NEVER in the eight months since have we had a follow up.

Oh, we did get a fundraising brochure from his office about three months ago. :headache:
 
Rodeo65---Wow, that is a scary and terrible story. That psychiatrist should lose his license. What is an emergency if not a suicide threat? That guy was a totally insensitive hack. I'm glad you have your son back, hyper or otherwise.

Our DS has flown back from camp. Woohoo! He flew solo with no problems. He seems to have had a good time and behaved appropriately at camp. He even had a roommate. DS studied film and baking; he enjoyed it because the bakers brought their finished products to lunch every day and all the other campers were soooo grateful for the goodies.

I was worried about our upcoming trip to the GF because I had heard there was construction and DS has a very low tolerance for noise. DH spoke to the hotel management today and they said that the noise should not be a problem. Yay! I was considering switching to the Boardwalk or Contemporary, but I am really a GF girl at heart. Plus, the proximity to MK is ideal for us.

DS is delighted to be reunited with his kitten. He dotes on her and she seemed pretty happy to see him as well. Have a good day, everyone.
 
Hello everybody! I'm back from a week out of town. I'm trying to read the latest posts so I can keep up with everybody! I just wanted to say hi!:)
 
Hi Schmolland!

Nothing new here. Just wanted to pop in and say hi. I hope everyone is still enjoying their summer. I *get* to go back to work on Aug 30. I'm so excited. :rotfl:

Have a good one all!

Daisy
 
Hi everyone!
DS had his orientation for middle school yesterday and he survived! I think I was more worried than he was.;) I tried not to let it show though. I cannot believe school starts next week!
Youngest ds is very nervous about going back to school. He has so much anxiety with school. I just hope this year is a better one for him. Poor kid.
 
Hi all you Schmollandites! I feel so out of touch since I've been back from WDW! I don't think there's anyway I'll catch back up, so I'll just have to join back in right here.

Hope everyone has been doing well. DS5 has been pretty good overall this summer...and did surprisingly well at WDW. Def much better than I'd expected. :cheer2:

Hi Smollish sisters- and brothers:yay: I'm sorry I haven't posted lately; we went to WDW in June (still thinking about a trip report; not sure if it's a good idea or not:confused3) and then it was back into work at an insane pace. We're working with a new therapist for DD, so we'll just have to see how it goes. Switched to a new church, and WOW- is it awesome for our kids. They provided DD w/ a 1:1 volunteer and she wears her ear protectors; she's loving it and doing sooooo well. They have a well developed and growing special needs ministry for kids and adults, so I'm starting to help out with that.

On the downside, don't ya hate those moments when an emotional wave just kinda breaks over you for no reason and without warning- I think I'm gonna start calling them "rogue waves" because they seem to come out of nowhere. Tonight I was giving DD her shower and as I was wrapping her after into "caitie burrito" her favorite part because she loves the deep pressure, i brought her close for a second to wrap my arms around her and realized she'd gotten taller again. And I had a moment of clarity that I'll probably still be showering her when she's taller than I am, and she'll still love "caitie burrito"... and it was all I could do not to lose it. I feel so stupid. I AM grateful for all she can do, I do accept who she is- so I get frustrated when that overwhelming fresh grief/sadness stuff hits again. It's like a record that spins around; just when you think you're past it, it comes around again.

Sorry for the pity party, just wondering if it happens to y'all too, or if it's just me and for some reason, I just can't get it through my very thick skull.

Nicole, I hope your vacation was awesome. A TR would be a great idea, I'd love to hear all about it! I'm in the middle of one now. Since we stayed at Disney's Fort Wilderness I'm posting it on the Camping boards. Love for you to join the fun over there.

Back to work.

New therapist,

AND a new church!?

Wow, you really are going through some changes aren't you? I'm glad it's all working out so well for you and your family.

DS5 is going to be in school full days this year, so I'm looking forward to a little breathing time before I get back into the workforce. I am planning to substitute a couple of days a week if it works out until I'm ready to start back to work full time.

You're not alone. I have those "rogue waves" too. Usually they happen when things seem like they're going fine and then....BAM! Wipeout! I completely understand where you're coming from there. It happened to me during DS7's T-ball game in the spring. We were just watching him out on the field and BAM! I looked at DS5 jumping and spinning and I began to cry. It was so out of the blue that there was no holding it in. It hurt and felt so unfair that DS5 wasn't out there too. Realizing that he probably never would be hurt beyond words. It's not a pity party, it's just our life here in Schmolland. Unless you live here there's no understanding it is there?

Kim
 
I love the rogue wave analogy, since that is what it really is for our kids, not one wave but I bunch of waves that coincide (stack up) to make a monster to overwhelm our kids. any one of the waves that makes it up would be manageable, all together, the boat is going upside down.
Is it OK if I borrow this for my presentations.
bookwormde

Gosh, of course! I think in word pictures, so I always have weird ways of looking at things running through my head. Glad it helps!

We have a 9 year old DS with ADHD who was medicated for about seven months. We started on very low but progressively greater dosages of Biphentin and then when that stopped working he was switched to Adderall. He had a definite increase in tics while on the medications - his psychiatrist said it could be the meds or maybe just 8 yr old boy tics. By the third dosage increase he began having what we called psychotic episodes - not professionally diagnosed as such. He was suicidal, threatened both his sister and I and really was not "there" when we tried to talk him through it. DH and I were terrified. We pulled him from the meds completely and have not looked back in the past eight months. His tics disappeared off meds as well.

We have our son back. He is happy, sunny, funny (and hyper :laughing: ) but HIM again. On the meds, he really wasn't "there". Yes, it was easier for the school to handle him, but he had stopped eating and growing and was in our terms - zombie boy.

Since getting off the drugs he has shot up two inches and eats like a horse. It's so amazing to see him eating again. Life is much more chaotic, but "normal" for us.

I know, absolutely that the medications are a godsend for many, but for our family, it was the worst possible experience.

Now we turn ourselves to working very closely with the learning services coordinator, making sure his ILP covers ALL accomodations. We had sort of let the school take the lead on this the past two years since his diagnosis, but it has become clear after his final report for this year that much more needs to be done for him. This year I will squeak!

I think some of the issue may have been that he came into the year medicated and no issue to be managed in class, but in December when we quit the meds, things got much more difficult to manage by comparison. There are several kids like my son in his grade and they all seemed to end up in one class together. Again, by comparison, his focus decreased and keeping him on task became much more challenging. He is now behind in math, his reading is average but his writing output is very low. Verbally he is great, so oral testing will have to be more of a component etc.

It's been a huge two year learning curve for us. Initially we relied on the "professionals" to guide us, but we have learned the hard way, that WE have to become the professionals with regards to our child/ren. You're absolutely right that choosing whether or not to use medication is a HUGE decision. We feel like we were "guided" into the Rx route by the school initially - to "help" him, and then got into the "wheel" of busy docs that prescribe but don't properly follow up.

The night of DS's final episode, when he begged me to "please, please hide the kinves because he wanted to run himself onto one" we put in a frantic emergency call to his psychiatrist. No response. The next morning we had decided to pull him off the meds we called again and his receptionist said he was out of the office and only available for emergencies. I told her the circumstances and said in my opinion it was an emergency. She said she'd let him know when he called in and if he felt it was important he would call back. We have NEVER heard from him. At that point we went to the family doc, told him what had happened and what we were doing and that was that with they psychiatrist for us. NEVER in the eight months since have we had a follow up.

Oh, we did get a fundraising brochure from his office about three months ago. :headache:

Definitely NOT ok on so many levels; I am so saddened that you all had to go through this. I really think the doctor was criminally negligent in this case; fwiw, DD's first phychiatrist first misdiagnosed her, and then she also became psychotic on Daytrana, and suicidal on abilify- needless to say, they are no longer on her list- and we have a new doc. DD needs meds for her seizures and immune issues as well, so it's always a balance. She is currently on metadate and risperidol because without them we have a raging tasmanian devil on the loose pretty much 24/7. Even with meds, she jumps on her trampoline for hours, still has a lot of difficulty attending even for several minutes, and rages- but not as much and not as long.
 














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