Epcot without FP

[Suvadoo]

Ps....am I the only one that finds it the least bit 'interesting' that someone can not just recall, but pull up and quote, details on another poster's trip report info from another thread? These are 'serious issues' though! Hey, it does display an uncanny ability to recall dates and specifics, which some people are skeptical can be done!

Actually what surprises me more is that after you continued unjustly persecuting Laketravis on a different thread, you're going to start persecuting him because he's asking about Wisblue's admittedly mixed information he's providing. According to WisBlue, he was at rope drop on the same day at 2 different parks, which we all know is impossible.

At least Laketravis provided the Wisblue's quotes so that Wis could clarify when he did rope drop at each park, I don't think you gave Laketravis the same courtesy.

 

[DisneyKidds]

I don't think you gave Laketravis the same courtesy.

Chill, Su....Su....Suvadoo. First off, I have no idea what you are talking about ^. Secondly, it was an honest query. Sure, I know some other poster's general disposition and thinking on certain subjects, but to know what they said, who knows how long ago, about a specific date? Hey, it was a good call on Lake's part. That's an unusually impressive level of memory, to me at least, that I wondered if other people found typical.

Let's try to not get too far OT......

 

[Laketravis]

Hey, it was a good call on Lake's part. That's an unusually impressive level of memory, to me at least, that I wondered if other people found typical....

Frankly, I'm surprised you didn't catch the error - your posting history indicates an atypical obsession with any information that you might consider to be inaccurate or misleading, as well as an implied requirement that details not only be remembered but provided.

Let's try to not get too far OT......

You brought it up. So please - try to remain on-topic.

 

[Suvadoo]

Chill, Su....Su....Suvadoo. First off, I have no idea what you are talking about ^. Secondly, it was an honest query. Sure, I know some other poster's general disposition and thinking on certain subjects, but to know what they said, who knows how long ago, about a specific date? Hey, it was a good call on Lake's part. That's an unusually impressive level of memory, to me at least, that I wondered if other people found typical.

Let's try to not get too far OT......

OK DUH DUH. It's just my imagination, you weren't trying to start anything. You were just trying to compliment Laketravis on his memory, without actually mentioning his name. It makes sense to me. Oh, and I wholeheartedly agree with you, Laketravis has got a fabulous memory!
Lake, if I ever post that I have been at RD on the same day at 2 different parks, please let me know, so that I don't look like I'm contradicting myself.

 

[DisneyKidds]

Good, I'm glad we cleared up that NOBODY is trying to "start anything". So back on topic we go....

 

[MrInfinity]

Actually what surprises me more is that after you continued unjustly persecuting Laketravis on a different thread, you're going to start persecuting him.

At least Laketravis provided the Wisblue's quotes so that Wis could clarify when he did rope drop at each park, I don't think you gave Laketravis the same courtesy.

Su,
Review the timing of this thread. Wis offered his experience of what he was able to get done, because that is what the OP was looking for. Lake was not even a part of the discussion, and joined it to give a one-line challenge to whether the date was the 7th or the 8th. Come on. Really. That is irrelevant, and not on topic. Drop the beating a dead horse thing about how so-and-so is persecuted. Lake spoke up purely to challenge Wis, and has now made 5 posts in this thread without volunteering any info whether or not he believes the OP can do the Epcot headliners in a morning. 3 posts arguing a quote and 2 posts propping a wait-time site.

Dana,
I think you can get on those 4 rides, but "without waiting in long lines"? I don't know this depends what you consider long. You will have around a half-hour wait for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th ride, plus time to get from ride to ride, and to actually customize your car and ride the rides. The SE ride alone takes like 15 min so to get this ride done in 30 min total including walking there, you'd have to get thru the line in under 10 min which is not realistic.

I think you can do all 4 in a little over 2 hours. 10:30 is possible in a perfect world but if it was me I'd plan on 11, and have open till 11:30 in case lines are longer. Definitely done by lunch.

EDIT... I just added up the ride-time of the 4 rides just for fun. It's about 30 min total. So factor that in! If your waits are 15- 30- 30- and 30-, That's about 2 hours and 15 min, plus walk-time - 2:30.

 

[wisblue]

I think you can do all 4 in a little over 2 hours. 10:30 is possible in a perfect world but if it was me I'd plan on 11, and have open till 11:30 in case lines are longer. Definitely done by lunch.

Like I said before, riding TT with the single rider line was a key to doing all 4 by 10:30. Without that there would be a longer wait at TT and you would be getting to MS and SE later than we did.

The line at MS doesn't get that long that fast so the bigger factor there is that the process of going through the preshow/loading sequence and the ride itself takes a good 10 minutes. But, the line at SE can get long in the morning because a lot of people are drawn right there as they enter the park.

 

[Laketravis]

...2 posts propping a wait-time site..

You completely miss the point, which was made several times already.

If anyone is interested on what wait times are for a particular park at a particular time and crowd level, they no longer need to rely on fuzzy memories, which can not only be inaccurate but pale in usefulness to the real-time tools we all have available to us now.

 

[Suvadoo]

Do you have a specific date in mind?

On Saturday, November 8, (level 5 crowd), we were at the park for a 9 AM opening and did Soarin, TT (single rider), MS, and SE in that order and were done with all 4 before 10:30.

As a PP said, being willing and able to go single rider on TT is a key element of this. If you can't do that, you are obviously going to face a longer line at TT and at each of the other rides than we did. If TT is your second priority, I would recommend getting in the standby line anyway because at 9:20 or so the actual wait may be considerably shorter than the posted wait. Then you can decide for yourself when you get there if the lines at MS and/or SE are too long for your tastes.

Su,
Review the timing of this thread. Wis offered his experience of what he was able to get done, because that is what the OP was looking for. Lake was not even a part of the discussion, and joined it to give a one-line challenge to whether the date was the 7th or the 8th. Come on. Really. That is irrelevant, and not on topic. Drop the beating a dead horse thing about how so-and-so is persecuted. Lake spoke up purely to challenge Wis, and has now made 5 posts in this thread without volunteering any info whether or not he believes the OP can do the Epcot headliners in a morning. 3 posts arguing a quote and 2 posts propping a wait-time site.

Dana,
I think you can get on those 4 rides, but "without waiting in long lines"? I don't know this depends what you consider long. You will have around a half-hour wait for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th ride, plus time to get from ride to ride, and to actually customize your car and ride the rides. The SE ride alone takes like 15 min so to get this ride done in 30 min total including walking there, you'd have to get thru the line in under 10 min which is not realistic.

I think you can do all 4 in a little over 2 hours. 10:30 is possible in a perfect world but if it was me I'd plan on 11, and have open till 11:30 in case lines are longer. Definitely done by lunch.

EDIT... I just added up the ride-time of the 4 rides just for fun. It's about 30 min total. So factor that in! If your waits are 15- 30- 30- and 30-, That's about 2 hours and 15 min, plus walk-time - 2:30.

Su,
Review the timing of this thread. Wis offered his experience of what he was able to get done, because that is what the OP was looking for. Lake was not even a part of the discussion, and joined it to give a one-line challenge to whether the date was the 7th or the 8th. Come on. Really. That is irrelevant, and not on topic.

Actually, we're going to have to disagree here. First of all Wis was very precise about providing dates and times that he was able to do RD at Epcot and what he was able to accomplish. So actually it is very relevant, as far as the date he was able to do this. since his posts made it seem like he was able to do RD at 2 parks on the same day.

On Saturday, November 8, (level 5 crowd), we were at the park for a 9 AM opening and did Soarin, TT (single rider), MS, and SE in that order and were done with all 4 before 10:30. .

Wis then clarified the dates and the matter was dropped. So Fuzz, the matter was dropped and everything had moved on as of yesterday.
Then tis morning Disneykidd posted this:

Ps....am I the only one that finds it the least bit 'interesting' that someone can not just recall, but pull up and quote, details on another poster's trip report info from another thread? These are 'serious issues' though! Hey, it does display an uncanny ability to recall dates and specifics, which some people are skeptical can be done!

So who's beating the dead horse?

 

[DisneyKidds]

Single rider is a big time saver on TT......but it may not be the best way to experience the ride for everyone. The boys were a little disappointed the one time we used the single rider line, as I recall you don't get to design a car. That is a huge part of the ride for my boys, 11 and 13. That, and then the competition of who designed the better car. With single rider you do experience the ride vehicle portion, and you can design a car in the post attraction area.

 

[DisneyKidds]

.....but pale in usefulness to the real-time tools we all have available to us now.

Whose accuracy has been absolutely proven?

 

[wisblue]

Single rider is a big time saver on TT......but it may not be the best way to experience the ride for everyone. The boys were a little disappointed the one time we used the single rider line, as I recall you don't get to design a car. That is a huge part of the ride for my boys, 11 and 13. That, and then the competition of who designed the better car. With single rider you do experience the ride vehicle portion, and you can design a car in the post attraction area.

You don't design a car in the single rider line but, once you've done that a couple of times, it isn't a big deal.

There is also a place to design a car in the display area where the ride exits, so if someone is spending more than one day at Epcot you could go into that area one day and design a car and then use that design when you ride.

 

[DisneyKidds]

You don't design a car in the single rider line but, once you've done that a couple of times, it isn't a big deal.

That statement may be true of a lot of groups, but not so much if they include young boys! I was just putting the information out there so people who have never ridden will know what to expect. Could be disappointing if they have boys who want to design cars, only to find they can't.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

depending on what time of year you arrive, you should probably plan on doing either Test Track OR Soarin' without the long line, but not both. Unless your party is willing and able to take advantage of the Test Track single rider line.

 

[Hokie2000]

You don't design a car in the single rider line but, once you've done that a couple of times, it isn't a big deal. There is also a place to design a car in the display area where the ride exits, so if someone is spending more than one day at Epcot you could go into that area one day and design a car and then use that design when you ride.

That's a great tip. TT is our first-ride-of-the-trip tradition, after which we hang out and play the games for a little while. Next trip we'll all design cars for future rides, which will help alleviate some of the design table arguments!

 

[DisneyKidds]

True, I hadn't thought of that. If you can use a car you design in the post attraction area on the ride itself, you could just go 'in through the out door', design a car, then hit the single rider line? Has anyone done that?

 

[wisblue]

True, I hadn't thought of that. If you can use a car you design in the post attraction area on the ride itself, you could just go 'in through the out door', design a car, then hit the single rider line? Has anyone done that?

I have not tried that, but one time we designed a car in the regular line and then later in the trip used the same car design when we went through the single rider line.

I don't know for sure if a car designed in that post ride area can be used on the ride.

 

[SuperTink]

We did all that plus Nemo (for the heck of it) during EMH a couple weeks ago. Don't know about during regular rope drop. Lines got very crazy, very quickly even on that "Level 3" day.