Early Admission (MM/EMH/APEE) Super Thread

[ttig34]

Are you still able to use EMH on your checkout day? I would think so- but just verifying.

 

[HydroGuy]

Are you still able to use EMH on your checkout day? I would think so- but just verifying.

Yep!

 

[sammatt]

When DCA has the resort guest EMH, do they only allow people in through the GCH entrance, or do they open the main turnstiles too? WIth the main entrance being closer to Cars Land, I'm wondering if that's a better place to enter. Any thoughts?

 

[DLR29]

When DCA has the resort guest EMH, do they only allow people in through the GCH entrance, or do they open the main turnstiles too? WIth the main entrance being closer to Cars Land, I'm wondering if that's a better place to enter. Any thoughts?

Both have been reported to be open for EMH. The front entrance is probably a shorter walk to Carsland.

 

[ValpoCory]

Both have been reported to be open for EMH. The front entrance is probably a shorter walk to Carsland.

Are both entrances opened simultaneously, or is the Grand Cal entrance opened first?

 

[DLR29]

Are both entrances opened simultaneously, or is the Grand Cal entrance opened first?

I need confirmation on this but I would assume that they open at the same time. Since the park is advertised as only being open to onsite guests (which may be incorrect due to some reports), it wouldn't make sense to open the GCH entrance for them to gain an advantage.

 

[BeccaG]

Any guesses on how many folks they are limited APEE to? With DCA wont it just be APEE guests on the attractions before rope drop?

 

[ValpoCory]

Since the park is advertised as only being open to onsite guests (which may be incorrect due to some reports).

Some people are reporting what, that non DLR guests are getting into DCA during the Extra Magic Hour by using their MM credit?

 

[sammatt]

I would also love to know how many AP holders are let in each morning, versus how many hotel guests there are. I'm just curious, if you don't have either privilege, is it best to go on a hotel guest day or an AP day?

 

[DLR29]

Some people are reporting what, that non DLR guests are getting into DCA during the Extra Magic Hour by using their MM credit?

Yeah, on other threads 2 people reported this. I'm still waiting to see if it was a fluke or an inconsistent enforcement issue?

 

[ValpoCory]

Yeah, on other threads 2 people reported this. I'm still waiting to see if it was a fluke or an inconsistent enforcement issue?

That wouldn't surprise me, actually, if indeed they were planning on eventually opening EMH up to MM customers. Disney probably just wanted to program the computers once, and then just announce it later.

 

[ValpoCory]

I would also love to know how many AP holders are let in each morning, versus how many hotel guests there are. I'm just curious, if you don't have either privilege, is it best to go on a hotel guest day or an AP day?

I would guess that at DCA, APEE is less crowded than EMH.

 

[HydroGuy]

I would guess that at DCA, APEE is less crowded than EMH.

I would guess that too, but in reality it is entirely dependent on how many APs are applied and accepted each day. And no one seems to know what that number actually is. The only way for us to know is to let it play out and get reports on EMH vs. APEE regarding wait times for rides.

 

[cgh]

A question I generally have is how many security tables and entry areas are open for EE for hotel guests? I figured since the GCH DCA entry only has maybe 2 security areas and is it 1 or 2 lines for taking tickets? that it would be a longer line to get in. (ie. all GCH and I imagine PP would be going through that one small area.

For those staying at DLH I was thinking it would be quicker/better to go through the main entrance.

 

[ValpoCory]

A question I generally have is how many security tables and entry areas are open for EE for hotel guests? I figured since the GCH DCA entry only has maybe 2 security areas and is it 1 or 2 lines for taking tickets? that it would be a longer line to get in. (ie. all GCH and I imagine PP would be going through that one small area.

For those staying at DLH I was thinking it would be quicker/better to go through the main entrance.

Yep, we're hearing advice to go through the main entrance. Now, trying to convince the family to walk from our VGC room past the Grand Cal entrance and over to the main entrance ... that might be a challenge. Luckily, I am going on an off week in January, so it likely won't matter what entrance I take.

 

[kdubs]

I went to EE on Monday morning, and it was definitely better to go to the main gates. Almost all of the gates were open for early entry and even guests from the Grand Californian seemed to be heading to the main gates. I assume that it meant that the entrance at the Grand was packed. We got there about 10-15 minutes early and were in the gates within a minute or two. It seemed that they were directing all of the guests from the Grand entrance past Soarin'. My son and I actually saw the first of these guests when we reached the end of Buena Vista street, meaning there was a distance advantage for the main gate as well.

My plan (helped because my son is 19 and not 5) was to ride Luigi's first and then jump in the SR line for RSR. We were on the first ride of Luigi's with just one other family of 4. The ride was great fun with just the 6 of us. Then we were about 10th in line for single riders. We would have been on quickly, but the ride had a delayed opening. By the time we got off, the park was just opening for regular guests. I felt so bad for the people excitedly heading up the street only to be met with a 120 minute wait for the ride.

One last point; the CM's were not doing a good job checking keys and were only asking for one key per party. I saw one family hand three keys off to several families that joined them in line; the other families had come from the Harbor side security line. I hope they start asking to see a key for every guest because I think the cheating was pretty bad that first day.

 

[TeddiBarra]

Well .. hmm...if this is true, that they are letting MM users have entry into DCA, then I think I figured out how I could get my conglomerate of 3 day hopper holders/AP holders and DGC stayers all in on a Wednesday EMH slot.

My parents are taking my kids and two other grandkids. The kids all will have 3 day hoppers, my parents have APs and DH & I are staying at the Grand. Technically at this point, we only have a King bed booked, but I could change our ressie I guess and have the kids stay with us that night (or not, doesn't really have any $ impact to disney except to cost them more in linen service). We could use our tixs and meet up with our family- use our tix for our kids for the one day, and let the grandparents use their 3 day hoppers ... if they saved the MM they'd have 5 three day hopper tix...

Hmm. I don't think this is unethical, if they are actually calling the EHM "MM" and treating it as such. I guess I'll keep my peepers open on these threads. I don't think it's breaking any rules...

 

[cgh]

Well .. hmm...if this is true, that they are letting MM users have entry into DCA, then I think I figured out how I could get my conglomerate of 3 day hopper holders/AP holders and DGC stayers all in on a Wednesday EMH slot.

My parents are taking my kids and two other grandkids. The kids all will have 3 day hoppers, my parents have APs and DH & I are staying at the Grand. Technically at this point, we only have a King bed booked, but I could change our ressie I guess and have the kids stay with us that night (or not, doesn't really have any $ impact to disney except to cost them more in linen service). We could use our tixs and meet up with our family- use our tix for our kids for the one day, and let the grandparents use their 3 day hoppers ... if they saved the MM they'd have 5 three day hopper tix...

Hmm. I don't think this is unethical, if they are actually calling the EHM "MM" and treating it as such. I guess I'll keep my peepers open on these threads. I don't think it's breaking any rules...

If its not breaking any rules, then how about your parents just try on their own to get in? Because clearly, if its not breaking any rules and is completely ethical and above board, then they shouldn't have any problem.

If you don't think that would fly, perhaps you can get them a room.

 

[TeddiBarra]

Actually, I'd have to add my parents to our room, not my kids, since the other way around would involve "transferring" tickets.

Everyone there has certainly paid for their various forms of granted early admission. The 3 day hopper ticket holders, us for staying onsite at the Grand, and my parents who have their APs- it's the dates of all of them being split. I can add two names onto our ressie and it doesn't give any $ or change the $ aspect at all. I doubt we will attempt it honestly, it's just frustratingly complicated how the perks have all been paid for, but the coordination of dates isn't designed to work out. Esp at the kids have different rules from the adults their with (and in the past, AP holders have been allowed in early at MM at DL when they have been in this situation- attending with kids/part of a larger party). IF indeed DLR has changed the rules and now DOES consider MM to be at DCA too, then it's making me rethink what the plan was.

 

[DLR29]

Actually, I'd have to add my parents to our room, not my kids, since the other way around would involve "transferring" tickets.

Everyone there has certainly paid for their various forms of granted early admission. The 3 day hopper ticket holders, us for staying onsite at the Grand, and my parents who have their APs- it's the dates of all of them being split. I can add two names onto our ressie and it doesn't give any $ or change the $ aspect at all. I doubt we will attempt it honestly, it's just frustratingly complicated how the perks have all been paid for, but the coordination of dates isn't designed to work out. Esp at the kids have different rules from the adults their with (and in the past, AP holders have been allowed in early at MM at DL when they have been in this situation- attending with kids/part of a larger party). IF indeed DLR has changed the rules and now DOES consider MM to be at DCA too, then it's making me rethink what the plan was.

The bolded is where I have to disagree. The only people in your party who have "paid for early admission to DCA" would be the people staying onsite. Nowhere does it say that 3 day hopper ticket holders are entitled to any form of DCA early admission (regardless of whether or not they're actually enforcing it is a different question). When you bought the 3 day park hoppers, you didn't buy the perk of having DCA early admission. And having an AP also does not entitle you to early admission to DCA, especially on the days that don't have APEE. I'm sorry that you're frustrated that your family's structure/plan doesn't match up with what Disney has put in place.

Also if you've had AP holders allowed in early at MM before, that's not normal, and consider yourself fortunate. It's not policy and most likely the CM handling the situation just didn't want to deal with an upset family. I would never expect this or feel entitled to be allowed into MM as an AP holder if I was in a big group.