DVC Survey - New Resorts

[huey578]

I would love a DVC Resort in Paris - there must be more Europeans who have not been converted yet.

That would be brilliant if they would open a DVC in Paris

 

[Mickey'sApprentice]

Just speculating, but I think Disney's viewpoint is that most visitors don't spend an entire week at Disneyland and that they need other West Coast resorts to make the Disneyland strategy work.

They are obviously looking seriously at Tahoe, Vegas, and Cabo. I think that Tahoe and Cabo have some potential, but think that other destinations such as Colorado, British Columbia, Santa Fe, San Francisco and near Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, and Yosemite would be good possible locations as well.

Although I was a bit outspoken earlier, I do believe that although some people really enjoy going to Vegas that it would have a significant downside to the Disney brand, and would not fit the "family" demographic very well. In other words, Vegas could backfire big time.

As for other expansions, I am very much in favor of increased expansion in the Southeast, as I believe that there are many Southerners who would consider DVC if they could easily visit 2 or more favorite vacation spots. (Smokies 1yr., Disney the next) I can just see the theming of DVC in the Smoky Mountains (Davy Crockett, Black Bears -- Frontier Land)

I know that Hilton Head and Vero Beach didn't work out great for Disney, but also believe that a) they didn't purchase the ideal locations, and b) these locations have gotten significant more business over the past few years. So, HH & VB would have done better with better site decisions and would have still sold better in present locations today than they did 10 years ago.

 

[toocherie]

Count me as someone who also likes Vegas--and I'm not so sure that a Disney location there wouldn't do very well--especially if they have child friendly amenities where Mom and Dad could place the kids while they go out on the town. (Like the clubs they have on the ships.)

When I go to Vegas in the Summer, I always see tons of families=-=the kids love to see the Strip and the lights. Heck, when I was a kid I begged my Mom and Dad to get to go with them--I was probably 11 or 12==so they were ok with leaving me in the hotel room to watch t.v. etc., and then I got to go out to a nice dinner, see a (family-friendly) show, etc.

I couldn't wait to turn 21 and get to partake in the gambling action! (LOL--of course, I usually take $200 or so and once that's gone it's gone--not a BIG gambler!)

Anyway--if there was a Vegas DVC I would seriously considering buying if it is close to the Strip--but if it's 30 miles away--no thanks.

 

[RickNJShore]

I’d pick Tahoe no doubt.

When I as in Disneyland this year I talked to a few folks who were excited about DVC on the west coast. One person talked about Cabo and Tahoe for the future to go along with the GC and Hawaii and that they would have a nice west coast selection.

From that map in the “Files” magazine I can see the western states, not including Texas, having less DVC households than all of Florida. I would think opening 3-5 DVC resorts in the west would allow the opening of the west coast market with hopes of duplicating the east coast DVC success.

While many folks on here are time share savvy I’m not sure it would be a good DVC strategy to ignore expanding because of other longer established, cheaper, or bigger name time shares. If DVC was expanding to fit my needs the list would be different, I agree with Colorado and worldwide Disney Parks first, but since I don’t own any other Timeshares I am all for DVC opening up new venues wherever they might be. Even more so if they can be successful and keep expanding!

 

[bwvBound]

I do understand folks not interested in purchasing at other locations, but I am surprised at some of you reacting so negatively. You don't want other vacation options? I took a tour recently at World Mark. They are very similar to DVC in that they sell points. The BIG difference is that they have over 60 locations you can use your points. I know you all love DW, but why fight other locations? Doesn't cost you anything! Think of the options. Think of the possibilities!

Big reason I'm against the three being pushed (Cabo, Tahoe and Vegas) is largely because I already have these locations covered as a Worldmark owner. Don't need them again ... I want really, truly new locations.

Besides, even if I didn't already own WM, each location is well served by many other timeshare resorts. Fairly easy to trade in ... again ... I hope for fresh and new destinations.

 

[Deb & Bill]

I got the survey. I voted no interest at all in all three locations.

Think about it. Would you spend $104 a point for a Las Vegas DVC, especially when you could get a much cheaper timeshare to use at Las Vegas, Lake Tahoe and Cabos?

The reason there aren't as many members on the western side of the US is that they are very far from WDW which is the best place to use your WDW points.

If they did another DVC at DL, they could offer transportation to the beach or do a split timeshare with some of the villas at DL and some at the beach. But the Pacific is so much colder than the Gulf.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

They are obviously looking seriously at Tahoe, Vegas, and Cabo. I think that Tahoe and Cabo have some potential, but think that other destinations such as Colorado, British Columbia, Santa Fe, San Francisco and near Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, and Yosemite would be good possible locations as well.

I know that Hilton Head and Vero Beach didn't work out great for Disney, but also believe that a) they didn't purchase the ideal locations, and b) these locations have gotten significant more business over the past few years. So, HH & VB would have done better with better site decisions and would have still sold better in present locations today than they did 10 years ago.

Disney needs other locations on the west coast to give the GCV buyers other choices besides Florida. I don't think HI will be enough. Tahoe is really a great choice. Alot of Californian's visit Vegas on a regular basis because it is so close (4 hour drive from LA). Also, it is an adult attraction, something they may be looking into to keep the older DVC'rs around. As far as VB and HHI, I feel the timing was bad. DVC was still relatively a new concept, and BWV had just opened as well. Too much inventory too soon, low membership at the time. I do think there is renewed interest in VB and HHI.

 

[disneymom8589]

I'm not a DVC member, but I am a Pacific Northwesterner who loves Disney parks and has always had an interest in possibly purchasing DVC.

I just don't get it though. They've barely even dipped their toes into developing DVC at Disneyland with their itty-bitty Grand Californian villas addition, and now their asking about Vegas, Mexico, and Lake Tahoe?

I'd be interested in another DVC resort at Disneyland.....or at a close by beach area so we could have both a Disneyland and beach vacation in one......or a DVC resort in the San Diego area (which is also a great family vacation spot).

Of course I'd be interested in any of those locations (Vegas, Mexico, Lake Tahoe) if they built some themeparks there along with the DVC resorts.

I agree! I would much rather that they put in more units at the GCV and/or another So Cal location than look at other locations.

 

[bigsmooth]

I'd be interested in Tahoe. I do think that would help develop a west coast complement to DL area offerings. I've been to Cabo several times. Really nice, with some very nice high end timeshares down there already (you get bombarded with time share pitches the minute you step off the plane). However, I tend to think Cabo is a bit over developed and seems to be not stopping in adding more and more capacity. With the change in passport requirements to Mexico and travel costs increasing, I think Disney should stick to the US or as others have said, stick to locales where they have a theme park (e.g. Paris, Hong Kong).

 

[PrettyKitties]

I personally don't have any interest in Cabos, Tahoe or Vegas (at least on a regular basis). I agree with others that Disney may be trying to attract a west coast following. I may be interested in one of those three on an occasional basis, but defintely not to buy. It would be neat to have more DVC resort options on the west coast - near national parks would be nice.

I don't understand why HHI & VB are considered failures - haven't they sold out? I don't know about VB, but I love HHI & am looking forward to spending Christmas there this year.

 

[lah3hh]

My thought here is they (the DVD top guns) are trying to enhance the DVC product to include non Disney locations. My reason for this thought is anytime I tell someone I am a member of DVC they immediately say...well we don't have kids or we don't want to go to Disney every year. Most people think when you are member of DVC you can only do Disney stuff. We all know this is not a true statement. But when the general public hears the name Disney in any title they immediately only think of Disney locations.

Our very first home resort was HHI. We love it there because it is not all the Disney park atmosphere but still has a 'dusting' of the Disney magic. I do not even slightly consider HHI a failure. If that was the case why is it so hard to get into during a majority of months? I am glad I have the 11 month window or I would not even be able to enjoy this beautiful relaxing location.

We have also been to VB and enjoy the different type of Florida vacation besides just WDW. Don't get me wrong, I love WDW and go once or twice a year but welcome other types of vacation options.

I think with VB, HHI, Hawaii and maybe some other off property resort the general public perception of DVD will start changing. Even though I am from the Midwest I would still entertain going to Tahoe or even Cabos. However I have to say I would probably not have them as my home resorts but that is the beauty of DVC...I don't have to!!!

 

[Doc CW]

No interest in any of those locations

 

[toocherie]

Big reason I'm against the three being pushed (Cabo, Tahoe and Vegas) is largely because I already have these locations covered as a Worldmark owner. Don't need them again ... I want really, truly new locations.

Besides, even if I didn't already own WM, each location is well served by many other timeshare resorts. Fairly easy to trade in ... again ... I hope for fresh and new destinations.

so .. . .just curious--what would be "fresh and new"?

keep in mind some of us don't own Worldmark--as for me I currently only own DVC.

 

[Chuck S]

so .. . .just curious--what would be "fresh and new"?

keep in mind some of us don't own Worldmark--as for me I currently only own DVC.

Exactly! There aren't many places on earth where a timeshare doesn't already exist, unless you count deep in the amazon, the middle of the Sahara, the North Pole, Antartica, and maybe Bahgdad, none of which would garner Disney much $$$. The world is pretty much out of "fresh and new."

 

[cfd91]

I personally would love a Vegas DVC. I would love to go to Vegas more
but would not want to take my kids to the strip. I am sure Disney could come up with some great concepts and things for parents and kids to do together and on their own....kind of like the concept of the Disney Cruise, but in the middle of the desert. We like the Vegas nightlife BUT are not able to take multiple vacations per year so instead we opt for the family vacation (and that has meant Disneyworld for the past 3 years). The family vacation the vegas strip tried back in the 90's was a failure due to the atmosphere of the strip (drunks, porn ads, etc). A resort a few miles out would remove that element for "family time" yet would be close enough for parents to go to on their own. (Of coarse I am hoping a day care facility would be provided with the disney touch..as in the cruise). As a couple we are looking forward to our 1st Cruise so we can combine adult and family time within the same trip. I am sure that those imagineers can come up with a WONDERFUL resort/vacation destination in Vegas!!!!!
I think before everybody shoots the vegas concept down..."imagine" the posibilities!!!!!!! I am sure Disney himself was discouraged by some who could not imagine swampland in Florida becoming the Happiest Place on earth!!!!

 

[Anal Annie]

I wish I'd gotten the survey. We would LOVE to visit Tahoe for skiing and Cabo for say spring break and would love to see a DVC at either of those locations. Vegas does not come to mind for a family vacation although I would like to go once.

We are the kind of owners who would like to see more opportunity to use our membership like a timeshare and would like the planning to be easier to use than having to always go thru II. I would just only hope that they would make ANY new locations big enough to get into without having to own there. HH is within driving distance for us but we don't own there so it will probably never happen for us which sorta sucks. We cannot afford to own EVERYWHERE we want to visit. We try to go to Hawaii every 5 years and are hoping they will build it big enough to get into without owning. But if we have to purchase there to get in then we will simply because we DO go. I would've rather it have been on Maui tho so we'd only purchase enough points for about 3 nights on Oahu. Three nights, once every 5 years...hopefully won't require TOO many points!

ANYWAY, when we did the Mexican Riviera on DCL in '05 we really enjoyed Cabo and put that on our "desintation" short list as a possibility of a place we'd like to return to. So that would get a vote from us too.

We would also be interested in someplace like AZ or NM or someplace in the southwest with like a dude ranch sort of atmosphere.

I think the other Disney theme parks around the world are great ideas but we simply cannot afford the airfare associated with those kinds of trips on top of what we already do.

 

[bwvBound]

so .. . .just curious--what would be "fresh and new"?

Options at Disney's parks in Tokyo and Hong Kong would be high on my interest list. NYC, especially w/in walking distance of the New Amsterdam Theatre, would be great. How about locations closer to National Parks (Yosemite, Yellowstone or the Grand Circle of So. Utah)? Each of these areas is under-served with respect to timeshare. West Coast beaches along CA & OR would also be appreciated as existing properties are generally difficult to book.

As for the three locations suggested by the survey (Tahoe, Cabo and Vegas) -- I'd far prefer DVC worked out reciprocal trade agreements with existing timeshare properties and companies. There are plenty to choose from ...

 

[djmeen]

so .. . .just curious--what would be "fresh and new"?

Hmmmmmmm..... allow me to introduce you to:

DVC Tiajuana
DVC Compton
DVC Zimbabwe

and finally.....

DVC Siberia

 

[Chuck S]

Hey, now, I was born in Compton!

Las Campanas Hospital

 

[dvcbnd]

No, we wouldn't be interested in any of those three locations. Now, NYC - that's a GREAT idea!!!!