DVC President Fired!

I heard they caught him using Iger's executive restroom.

LMAO!

But seriously...who cares?

I would bet the farm that he's another no-talent suit who just spends his days saying "yes, sir" and trying to put spin on things for the good of profits...

like pretty much every disney mid-level hired since the helicopter with frank wells on it crashed...
 
Here is the updated story. A little more indepth:

From Orlando Sentinel 9:33 p.m. EDT, August 15, 2011Disney halts sales and fires executives amid financial issues with Hawaiian resort

Financial issues with a new Walt Disney Co. resort scheduled to open this month in Hawaii prompted the company to suspend all time-share sales for the project and force out three executives, including the president of its Celebration-based time-share business, according to several people familiar with the events.

Disney on Friday fired Jim Lewis, president of Disney Vacation Club, the company's time-share division. The company also dismissed Jim Heaney, senior vice president and chief financial officer of Disney Cruise Line and travel operations, and Lawrence Smith, a former director of finance for Disney Vacation Club who was most recently with food-and-beverage operations for Walt Disney World.

The dismissals followed an internal investigation into problems surrounding Aulani, an estimated $850 million hotel and time share scheduled to open Aug. 29 on the Hawaiian island of Oahu. Plans call for the resort to have 460 Disney Vacation Club time shares and 359 conventional hotel rooms.

Disney said Monday evening it had appointed Claire Bilby, a 23-year company veteran who had most recently been senior vice president of distribution marketing and Asia Pacific sales, to run its time-share business. Bilby's title will be senior vice president of Disney Vacation Club.

According to the people familiar with details of the investigation, it focused on the annual dues that Disney Vacation Club plans to charge buyers of Aulani time shares. Those yearly fees are used to cover ongoing expenses such as the resort's maintenance and repairs.

Those people said Disney concluded that Vacation Club executives had calculated dues amounts so low that they would not generate enough money to cover the cost of maintaining Aulani. The inadequate dues amounts were included in legal-disclosure documents submitted to the Hawaiian government.

Disney said Aulani's operating costs were underestimated, leading to the inadequate annual dues. It said the mistake was unintentional.

The low fees prompted concerns within the company that Aulani would eventually face a significant operating shortfall, the people familiar with the investigation said. The company also feared the possibility of a brand-damaging backlash from Hawaiian regulators or consumers should Disney attempt to significantly raise Aulani's annual dues in future years to plug any deficit.

All of the people familiar with the events spoke only on the condition that they not be identified because of the sensitivity of the issue.

Disney suspended Aulani sales on July 9, a little more than one year after it started selling the project to consumers. The company says it is accepting "deposit reservations" in the interim from buyers who wish to lock in current Aulani prices, though there is no penalty for consumers who cancel such reservations.

Rena Langley, a spokeswoman for Disney, said the company is now in the process of changing the registration materials submitted to the Hawaiian government and that it expects to file the updated documents this week. She said the changes involve "adjustments to our annual dues forecast for Aulani."

Disney's initial sales materials stated that the 2011 annual dues for Aulani would be $4.31 for every "point" purchased, or $689.60 a year based on 160 points, which Disney says is the minimum amount for new Vacation Club members. (Disney Vacation Club sells points, rather than specific time periods, which allows buyers to redeem them at various times and destinations.)

Langley said buyers who have already purchased points in Aulani will get a credit toward their annual dues equal to the difference between the original quoted amount and whatever higher price Disney sets now. She declined to say how many people have bought into Aulani so far.

All time-share developers face pressure to keep maintenance fees as low as possible in order to drive sales. While such fees may seem a trifling issue when compared with the upfront sticker price of a time share — which can cost $50,000 or more — they can nonetheless be a significant deterrent for buyers.

A 2009 survey for the American Resort Development Association, the time-share industry trade group, found that one in four recent time-share buyers cited annual maintenance fees as a top reason they had been hesitant about purchasing a time share.

Tammie Kaufman, a professor in the University of Central Florida's Rosen College of Hospitality Management, said many buyers are wary because dues are a recurring expense that can increase from year to year.

"It's because of the unknown. People have heard horror stories" about dues, Kaufman said.

Aulani's performance is being closely watched by Disney investors. The project is the first test of the company's strategy to build standalone hotels and niche parks in secondary markets away from its massive theme-park resorts in Orlando and Anaheim, Calif., as Disney's parks division searches for new sources of growth in North America.

None of the three executives fired Friday received a severance package, according to a person who spoke with one of the men.

The dismissal marks a shocking fall for Jim Lewis, once considered a rising star within Disney's executive ranks and a leading candidate to become president of Walt Disney World, the company's biggest and most profitable theme-park operation.

Lewis joined Disney in 1996 from PepsiCo as a director of planning and finance for Disney's sales unit. He was tapped to oversee Disney Vacation Club in 2003, and under his watch the unit became the fastest-growing business within Disney's global theme-park division. At its peak before the global recession, Disney Vacation Club generated an estimated $190 million a year in operating income.

Lewis did not return phone messages Monday.

Disney's decision to force Heaney out in addition to Lewis stunned several company followers. The finance executive was highly regarded both inside and outside of Disney; he had earned the nickname "The Brain" from some fellow executives.

"I am very proud of my accomplishments and how I conducted business during my 16-plus years with Disney," Heaney said. "Given this track record, I am bewildered by the company's decision."

Smith could not be reached for comment.

The Aulani paralysis has frustrated some Disney customers. William Montgomery, a 37-year-old business owner from Dallas, said he called Disney on July 27 planning to buy into Aulani — only to be told by the sales agent that he couldn't.

"And so I said, 'What's the deal?' He got real cryptic, real fast. … All he would say is there was something wrong in the documentation and that the Disney lawyers had stopped everything," said Montgomery, who also owns an interest in a Disney time share in Orlando. "It's the damndest thing. I mean, Disney won't take your money."
 

None of the three executives fired Friday received a severance package, according to a person who spoke with one of the men.

That's surprising.


Langley said buyers who have already purchased points in Aulani will get a credit toward their annual dues equal to the difference between the original quoted amount and whatever higher price Disney sets now. She declined to say how many people have bought into Aulani so far.

Wish I had. That reduced maintenance fee would have covered the shipboard credit I got for AKV in 2.5 years :sad2:
 
The misinformation about the age of Claire Bilby, the new head of DVC, is probably from somebody misreading the following sentence in "Disney halts sales and fires executives amid financial issues with Hawaiian resort." by Jason Garcia, Orlando Sentinel, August 15, 2011:

Disney said Monday evening it had appointed Claire Bilby, a 23-year company veteran who had most recently been senior vice president of distribution marketing and Asia Pacific sales, to run its time-share business. Bilby's title will be senior vice president of Disney Vacation Club.​

The article says "a 23-year company veteran," not "a 23-year-old company veteran."
 
The misinformation about the age of Claire Bilby, the new head of DVC, is probably from somebody misreading the following sentence in "Disney halts sales and fires executives amid financial issues with Hawaiian resort." by Jason Garcia, Orlando Sentinel, August 15, 2011:

Disney said Monday evening it had appointed Claire Bilby, a 23-year company veteran who had most recently been senior vice president of distribution marketing and Asia Pacific sales, to run its time-share business. Bilby's title will be senior vice president of Disney Vacation Club.​

The article says "a 23-year company veteran," not "a 23-year-old company veteran."

Oops..... (facepalm)
 
Probably got fired for standing up it what they believed in. I won't buy timeshares because of the maintenance fee. Let me sum every time share sale I've ever had to listen to...
Salesman: "All you pay is an upfront fee of $50,000 and for the rest of your life it's free vacations! Cough - maintenance fee - cough".
Me: "Sorry what was that last bit?"
Salesman: "There's an insignificant maintenance fee that keeps the place up to date and looking new and fresh. It's nothing to be concerned about."
Me: "Oh, how much is it?"
Salesman: "Oh with your points just like $1000 a year, it's nothing compared to the purchase price."
Me: "And that fee is locked, right?"
Salesman: "No, no, it can go up with inflation."
Me: "So let me get this straight, you want me to give you $50,000 and for only $1000 a year I can stay at your resort a whole week every year?"
Salesman: "Yes, isn't it a great deal? But you have to lock it in by the end of the week before prices go up!"
Me: "You know I can rent a room across the street for $1000 a week every year, right?"
Salesman: "Cough - but this guarantees you take a vaca... er, it has a kitch... um, it's right next to the..."
Me: "I'm not buying it, give me my free stuff you promised me to come in here."
 
Probably got fired for standing up it what they believed in. I won't buy timeshares because of the maintenance fee.

Conceptually timeshare dues are no different than the expenses which go along with owning a home. After you pay the thousands up front you're still responsible for property taxes, insurance, utilities, landscaping, repairs, furnishings, etc.

As a cash customer you won't find comparable Disney accommodations for less than I'm paying for DVC--dues included. Not even close. Not with "free dining" or 30% off rack.

The big knocks on DVC are the big up-front capital expenditure and the fact that you're locked into a recurring vacation pattern. A degree of flexibility is undeniably sacrificed. But the economics of it work nicely in the buyer's favor over the long haul.
 
Probably got fired for standing up it what they believed in. I won't buy timeshares because of the maintenance fee.
There are all sorts of reasons not to buy any timeshare, including DVC. But I agree with tjkraz when it comes to DVC. If you compare the cost over time of staying in a 2-bedroom DVC condo to paying the cash rate for the same condo (even a discounted, promotional rate), the economics of DVC work out favorably for someone who enjoys Disney vacations year after year.

There are also ways of making other timeshares work, especially if they're purchased on the resale market instead of from the developer. However, plenty of people regret buying timeshares.

Getting back to the topic of this thread, Jim Lewis and other fired executives did not get "fired for standing up it what they believed in." They got caught doing something they should not have done.

See Disney halts sales and fires executives amid financial issues with Hawaiian resort.
 
1) I heard the story goes a little deeper than the articles.
2) From what I was told *
. . . Hawaii guards the tourism industry with a vengeance
. . . they do not want problems to destroy the business
. . . DVC had to estimate the maintenance fees for the state
. . . all timeshares do this to get a permit
. . . in review, someone in the state saw something suspicious
. . . the state did an in-depth comparison to other timeshares
. . . the maint costs seemed too close to lesser developments
. . . they questioned DVC on their estimates
. . . DVC balked at the explanations & details
. . . then, Hawaii demanded a complete breakdown of costs
. . . oops
. . . when DVC wouldn't comply, Hawaii shut-off sales (July 2011)
. . . voilà! the defecation came in contact with the rotary oscillator
3) As it would seem,
. . . original estimates for maint fees were based upon other DVC's
. . . sounds reasonable as a base estimate !
. . . then, Rohde went overboard and too many costly things added
. . . such items were never considered for the development
. . . the estimated fees could no longer cover the annual maintenance
. . . DVC did not want to revise the estimates for Hawaii permits
. . . they, also, did not want to tell the Sales dept
. . . fees of up to $1200-$1600/year for 1-week would inhibit sales
. . . such fees might bring sales to a halt
. . . and, could even doom the timeshare development
. . . Catch-22
. . . either revise the fee estimates or continue the fraud
4) Now,
. . . a new fee filing must be made with Hawaii
. . . sales info and brochures have to be updated
. . . DVC has to figure how to sell exorbitant timeshare maintenance fees
. . . management had to go because they lied to Hawaii and the public **
. . . Disney has to overcome the bad press of pulling a sham
. . . will give credit to those who already bought, so they pay less fees


* Like all else at this time, until the whole story is public, this needs to be
treated as rumor. I believe there is it not false, as it sound too reasonable
when one compares it to the released stories, and dovetails nicely with the known facts.

** Managers usually get a severance package when fired. But, since this was a
fraud on Hawaii and a sham to the public, I think that is why the execs were just
dismissed without extras. I have gotten rid of high execs in the past for bad acts,
and it completely invalidated the severance clause of their employment contracts.
 
** Managers usually get a severance package when fired. But, since this was a
fraud on Hawaii and a sham to the public, I think that is why the execs were just
dismissed without extras. I have gotten rid of high execs in the past for bad acts,
and it completely invalidated the severance clause of their employment contracts.

And that explains what didn't make sense to me (ie. that three execs would get the boot all without a golden handshake)
 
Good I'm a reluctant DVC member I didn't want it but my GF did so we compromised :rolleyes: so she got her way. I also paid for it in full up front!

My problems with DVC

1. You have to book months in advance if you want to stay where you want! With the amount of coin I dropped I should be able to book a month in advance!

2. Just not enough for the price

3. An there is no defending this at all my biggest gripe! I only get freaking towels once why I am there!!!! BS I spent a lot of money I want clean towels every day!
 
1) I heard the story goes a little deeper than the articles.
2) From what I was told *
. . . Hawaii guards the tourism industry with a vengeance
. . . they do not want problems to destroy the business
. . . DVC had to estimate the maintenance fees for the state
. . . all timeshares do this to get a permit
. . . in review, someone in the state saw something suspicious
. . . the state did an in-depth comparison to other timeshares
. . . the maint costs seemed too close to lesser developments
. . . they questioned DVC on their estimates
. . . DVC balked at the explanations & details
. . . then, Hawaii demanded a complete breakdown of costs
. . . oops
. . . when DVC wouldn't comply, Hawaii shut-off sales (July 2011)
. . . voilà! the defecation came in contact with the rotary oscillator
3) As it would seem,
. . . original estimates for maint fees were based upon other DVC's
. . . sounds reasonable as a base estimate !
. . . then, Rohde went overboard and too many costly things added
. . . such items were never considered for the development
. . . the estimated fees could no longer cover the annual maintenance
. . . DVC did not want to revise the estimates for Hawaii permits
. . . they, also, did not want to tell the Sales dept
. . . fees of up to $1200-$1600/year for 1-week would inhibit sales
. . . such fees might bring sales to a halt
. . . and, could even doom the timeshare development
. . . Catch-22
. . . either revise the fee estimates or continue the fraud
4) Now,
. . . a new fee filing must be made with Hawaii
. . . sales info and brochures have to be updated
. . . DVC has to figure how to sell exorbitant timeshare maintenance fees
. . . management had to go because they lied to Hawaii and the public **
. . . Disney has to overcome the bad press of pulling a sham
. . . will give credit to those who already bought, so they pay less fees


* Like all else at this time, until the whole story is public, this needs to be
treated as rumor. I believe there is it not false, as it sound too reasonable
when one compares it to the released stories, and dovetails nicely with the known facts.

** Managers usually get a severance package when fired. But, since this was a
fraud on Hawaii and a sham to the public, I think that is why the execs were just
dismissed without extras. I have gotten rid of high execs in the past for bad acts,
and it completely invalidated the severance clause of their employment contracts.

Holy crap! If all this is true... wow. Just, wow.

PS: I hear the numbers shot through the roof when Rohde insisted on including a massive, expensive, non-working yeti. ;)
 
Good I'm a reluctant DVC member I didn't want it but my GF did so we compromised :rolleyes: so she got her way. I also paid for it in full up front!

My problems with DVC

1. You have to book months in advance if you want to stay where you want! With the amount of coin I dropped I should be able to book a month in advance!

2. Just not enough for the price

3. An there is no defending this at all my biggest gripe! I only get freaking towels once why I am there!!!! BS I spent a lot of money I want clean towels every day!

It sounds like you shouldn't have gone anywhere near the thing...

I usually agree with you - but it sure seems like you missed the basic realities of your contract purchase - no offense.
 
It sounds like you shouldn't have gone anywhere near the thing...

I usually agree with you - but it sure seems like you missed the basic realities of your contract purchase - no offense.

Oh I was against it from the beginning but honestly the towels is what bothers me the most that can not be defended in any way!
 












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