DVC in disneyland?

[LoveMyDVC]

Who here would like to see a DVC resort in DL? I've never been there, and would love the opportunity to buy and stay there, instead of using excessive points to stay at one of the hotels there.

 

[JimC]

They had property for one and sold it to Marriott. Here is link to thread that covers it:

http://130.94.75.33/showthread.php?s=&threadid=398678

Maybe the SSR opening news means that they are reconsidering off-WDW development again.

 

[tonyswife]

We would LOVE a DL DVC. We live in Northern CA and my parents live in Southern CA. We also have a DL AP. While it's not the *best* use of our DVC points, we have stayed at all the DL hotels on points and have enjoyed each and every vacation. Last week we spent a week in a one bedroom suite at the Disneyland Hotel. We were HIGH up and had a view on one side of Downtown Disney (we could see the Rainforest Cafe and the House of Blues) and on the other side the view was of the Neverland Pool area. It was fantastic. If we never get a DL DVC, we will stay there again, on points

But, if there WAS a DL DVC, we could go more often which would be great, of course. With two young kids, flying to FLorida even once a year is just too difficult so off to So Cal we go to use our points.

 

[flyinglizard]

I'd love to see a DVC Resort at DL. Didn't Disney buy up a lot of the surrounding property some time ago? Perhaps a DVC tower could be incorporated at the Strawberry Farm?

With the successful sell-through of BCV, and a good beginning reception to SSR, perhaps plans for a DL DVC site may be reconsidered.

 

[rsschneck]

From what I have heard Disney is planning on a 3rd park where that Strawberry field used to be. We'll see!

 

[jweiss]

we'd LOVE it..... and would use it a lot!!!!!!!

 

[NancyDVC]

When we visited DL 3 years ago there was talk about adding a DVC resort near the Grand Californian. Same theming etc as the GC. Now that is one I would like to see built.

 

[tjkraz]

Don't know a whole lot about DL. Would they even have the land out there for a DVC resort? IIRC, they only have 3 resorts on property now. Isn't that because they are so land-locked?

DW isn't a big fan of large metropolitan areas, but after watching the Disneyland show on Discovery HD, she actually said to me "can we use our DVC at Disneyland?"

 

[Montana Disney Fan]

We've been to DL the last two years in a row and it is nice... but it's no WDW!

There is not much room to build a property like they would need to make a DVC there. Landlocked is a GREAT expression to describe the problems they have in California.

 

[Horace Horsecollar]

Originally posted by tjkraz
Don't know a whole lot about DL. Would they even have the land out there for a DVC resort? IIRC, they only have 3 resorts on property now. Isn't that because they are so land-locked?

The Disneyland Resort has several surface parking lots, some of which could be used as development sites if another parking structure were built.

Also, the "strawberry field" that's been mentioned in this thread is the 56-acre Fujishige family strawberry farm (south of Katella and west of Harbor Blvd.) that Disney acquired a few years ago -- at great expense. Shortly after the acquisition, Disney sought to gain community support for a third park that would combine the strawberry field and an adjacent property to create a 78-acre development area.

So Disney has land in Anaheim for a DCV resort -- but only if they decide that a DVC resort is the best use for that land.

In comparison, Disney has many thousands of acres of undeveloped land in Florida that the company bought in the 1960s for a few hundered dollars per acre.

 

[Beca]

Originally posted by Montana Disney Fan
We've been to DL the last two years in a row and it is nice... but it's no WDW!

I could NOT agree more!!!! DL usually just makes me homesick for WDW. The difference in the ability (and desire) for the MASSIVE amount of locals who go there make it an ENTIRELY different park!! Plus, DL has put "so much" in such a small amount of space...I totaly admire what they have done, but honestly, after my DD was born, I got "stuck" with a stroller in adventure land outside of the Indiana Jones ride, and have not visited that area of the park since!!! I do not think I will go there again until I no longer have a stroller in tow...it took me 45 minutes to get through that 2 minute walkway!! (And, I have heard SO many "moms" express the same).

Now, that being said...I MIGHT have to consider owning if it were a Grand Californian "add on". That is far and away my MOST favorite Disney hotel!! It is very different from WL (which is also a beauty), due mainly to it's Frank Lloyd Wright "Arts & Crafts" styling. I think it is very elegant!! And, Storyteller's Cafe has the BEST food I have ever eaten...anywhere!!! It truly is a magnificent resort!!

I'm afraid if they did offer it, it might be really expensive. I cannot imagine that, with the price they paid for land, that they could offer it at the same price as other DVC resorts.

But, hmmm...it is something to think about!!



Beca

 

[tjkraz]

Originally posted by Horace Horsecollar
So Disney has land in Anaheim for a DCV resort -- but only if they decide that a DVC resort is the best use for that land.

Thanks for the background.

 

[pumpkinboy]

Originally posted by JimC
They had property for one and sold it to Marriott. Here is link to thread that covers it:
http://130.94.75.33/showthread.php?s=&threadid=398678
Maybe the SSR opening news means that they are reconsidering off-WDW development again.

Well, now that JimC and Yesterland have pointed out the connection, and after reading some very positive reviews on TuG, I am definately gonna try to convince the DW to exchange into Marriott Newport Coast (with our other timeshare tho; the DVC we'll use in Florida, thx). 2 Days at DL should be fine for us, but lots of friends and California relatives to see. Yeah, Orange County is a bit of a poke from LA, but those Angelinos drive all the time anyway, so maybe they can visit us. And now that JetBlue is flying cheaply from Boston to Long Beach, this might actually work! Sweet! ...

 

[TnRobin]

The story that I got from a DVC person who should know is that DVC cannot build in California. Apparently the timeshare laws in California will not allow a timeshare to have an "end date" like DVC does. All sales of real estate, including timeshares, must be "in perpetuity." They say the purchase of the land in Newport was made prior to this discovery. Someone made a big OOPS.

 

[Beca]

TnRobin...that makes SO much sense!!! And, helps to explain why DVC cannot sell in CA as well...they don't "fit" within CA law.



Beca

 

[tonyswife]

Can anyone confirm that? Not that I don't believe you tnrobin, it's just that DH and I talk about the possibility of a DVC in CA a lot, and I was just talking to my cousin (another DVC member) about it and would like to know for sure. That would be a real bummer, but typical of stupid CA laws.

 

[eileenfk]

I would have bought into DVC 5 years ago, if they had a DVC resort in (or very close to, with frequent transportation) Disney Land.

One of my concerns, related to the risk of my buying into DVC, is that airline prices will go so high, that I don't want to vacation 3000 miles from home. Travel could also become such a hassle that I don't want to travel that far.
While the points can be used at the DisneyLand owned hotels, this is not guaranteed to continue, nor can I be certain that the point cost will continue to be reasonable.

When I determined how many points I need for my 2005 DL vacation, I estimated using the 2004 point charts.
Now it looks like the 2005 point cost (along with the cash hotel prices) will be more then I feel it is worth.
If there were a DVC, the point cost would be more stable and predictable.

I heard that the strawberry field area will become a water park.
That would be a nice addition.

In case Disney is reading this, I will be staying on Harbor Blvd both times I visit in 2005.
Even if Disney lowers the 2005 prices later, due to slow bookings at the current posted prices, I will likely have (and keep) my reservations on Harbor Blvd.

Eileen

 

[mbhoxsie]

I just checked the California Department of Real Estate at http://www.dre.ca.gov/timeshares.htm and here is what I found in regards to point based Timeshare systems.....

Timeshare estate refers to the right of occupancy in a timeshare project coupled with an estate in real property. This type of timeshare interest is typically transferred to the purchaser by grant deed.

Timeshare use (or right to use) refers to an interest based on a purchase agreement between the seller and the purchaser rather than a deed to an interest. The purchase agreement may take different forms, such as a license or membership agreement. In any case, the purchaser does not receive an estate in or title to real property.

Public reports are required for both types of timeshare interests if the offering involves 12 or more timeshare interests having terms of at least five years. Timeshare uses involving property without structural dwelling places are not regulated.

 

[tonyswife]

If I read that correctly then DVC COULD build in CA with the same rules as the other properties?

 

[LeftCoaster]

Originally posted by Beca
TnRobin...that makes SO much sense!!! And, helps to explain why DVC cannot sell in CA as well...they don't "fit" within CA law.



Beca

DVC can indeed sell in California... It's just that with each opening resort, DVC has to get approved by California to sell in California. As of March, the had not been approved yet for SSR but they were expecting it soon.
Also, in talking to my guide about a DVC property at Disneyland, he said one of the main sticking points was figuring out how to set up offices, etc. here as well as bringing out an entire staff to sell the resorts and manage everything.