DVC Gold AP.

[Pens Fan]

Well I'm not getting any love.
We have three trips planned for three milestone birthdays this year and its looking like we might be cancelling one or two and renting out the points we just bought instead. Guaranteed perk or not, even the non-DVC pass was closer to reasonable but this rule where some are allowed to buy and others are not is crap.
We leave in the morning and this trip already has a sour taste.

I don't blame you for being upset. Last year our son had planned on upgrading his Aug ticket to the Gold AP so he could travel with us in Oct. He tried to upgrade on the phone several times and in person at the parks. Nope. We had to shell out the extra money for a ticket for him in Oct. We did it, but weren't happy about it. We currently have two trips planned for all three of us later this year, but will be cancelling one of them if we can't buy AP's. We sucked it up and spent the $$ for one extra ticket last year, but won't do it again - especially as now it would be for three tickets . Not going to happen.

If we end up with extra points to burn, we'll probably just go to Hilton Head instead.

 

[eandt]

If DVC could find a way to have the resale market have no impact on direct sales, they would care less how strong or weak it is.

The perk of the AP is just that.,,to get you to buy...and if DVD could sell direct contracts with none of those, they would. It’s why they are not included as a right.

I love having the discounted AP and it was worth it for buying direct or having qualified points. However, the bigger things for me is the use of points at RIV...since I love the place.

The fact they are no longer offering the ability to purchase discounted AP's cost them a sale with us, at least for now. I have heard all the economics of direct doesn't add up so I realize that taking away the AP discount shouldn't make or break the deal but for us it did even though we would only buy them every other year at best. If they come back we would purchase direct unless we totally change our minds on DVC but in the meantime if we find a resale contract we like we will go that route and once we buy resale we wont be likely to buy any direct sale points ever.

 

[Cody2020]

If you have a active platinum AP can you renew to a gold AP? If so do you still get the renewal discount?

 

[CarolynFH]

If you have a active platinum AP can you renew to a gold AP? If so do you still get the renewal discount?

Yes, you can upgrade or downgrade, at renewal price, when you renew.

 

[Fitzwoman27]

So we can renew AP, but not buy new ones?

 

[n2mm]

So we can renew AP, but not buy new ones?

you can only buy a new AP if you canceled your AP during the shutdown. Between March-august 2020 You have to have been an active passholder. You have to call the passholder phone number (not dvc) and they will fill out a form on your behalf. Someone will call you to make the purchase if you qualify. Right now the call back wait is running about a month behind. I’m on my second week wait now.

 

[Sandisw]

The fact they are no longer offering the ability to purchase discounted AP's cost them a sale with us, at least for now. I have heard all the economics of direct doesn't add up so I realize that taking away the AP discount shouldn't make or break the deal but for us it did even though we would only buy them every other year at best. If they come back we would purchase direct unless we totally change our minds on DVC but in the meantime if we find a resale contract we like we will go that route and once we buy resale we wont be likely to buy any direct sale points ever.

But it’s not DVD who suspended sales. It’s WDPR. I am sure if they could have worked it out to get It for DVC it would have happened

Again, each division in Disney does its own thing and one has no ability to decide for the other.

That is why it is considered a perk because they can’t guarantee something they have no control over it being something that is offered, no matter how much they want it for sales.

 

[princesscinderella]

The fact they are no longer offering the ability to purchase discounted AP's cost them a sale with us, at least for now. I have heard all the economics of direct doesn't add up so I realize that taking away the AP discount shouldn't make or break the deal but for us it did even though we would only buy them every other year at best. If they come back we would purchase direct unless we totally change our minds on DVC but in the meantime if we find a resale contract we like we will go that route and once we buy resale we wont be likely to buy any direct sale points ever.

We were planning on buying Disney APs this year as we usually get them every other year. We got Universal passes in Dec of 19’ to see our son March with his band there because it wasn’t much more expensive as FL residents. I just got my renewal offer and was amazed that they are offering 20% off and an extra 3 months for our preferred pass it’s $288 per person to renew. We have decided to renew there and give Disney another year to figure out that they should be selling APs to their captive audience of DVC members. We don’t like Universal nearly as much as Disney but it’s got a new coaster coming and we love Hagrids, so we will be staying at Disney but spending our days at Universal.

 

[lundve]

Add me to the list of people who are waiting for APs - we had them expire in 2018 and planned to get them in 2020 but we all know how that went. I have a DVC booked for July 2021, but we won’t go until December 2021 with no APs. If we had APs, we’d likely do July, December and June 2022 - the money is just sitting in the bank....

 

[n2mm]

I was allowed to repurchase my canceled APs last night under the AP recovery offer. Since I had a trip coming up they bumped me up after waiting 2 weeks on the list. We canceled our APs in April/May during the shutdown and after a long wait we finally got all of our partial refunds. One of my refunds I finally got in December after my initial call-in April (8 months). for anyone doing this you do pay the dvc price, but will have to give the passholder cast member your dvc number to enter to Process the dvc prices. Remember this offer is through wdw passholder team, not dvc, so don’t call members services.

 

[jamier2]

Well I stopped at member services or whatever it’s called at Disney Springs. No sympathy or love at all.

I definitely wouldn’t have bought my direct points if I’d have known this would happen. I feel it’s completely unfair that some DVC members are allowed to buy annual passes but others aren’t. That part is insane to me. If they weren’t doing any passes it would feel different but knowing that others get that and I can’t just bugs me.

 

[TinkB278]

Well I stopped at member services or whatever it’s called at Disney Springs. No sympathy or love at all.

I definitely wouldn’t have bought my direct points if I’d have known this would happen. I feel it’s completely unfair that some DVC members are allowed to buy annual passes but others aren’t. That part is insane to me. If they weren’t doing any passes it would feel different but knowing that others get that and I can’t just bugs me.

This is the same thing that bugs me about it too.

Sorry you didn’t have any luck

 

[OffToDWD]

I was allowed to repurchase my canceled APs last night under the AP recovery offer. Since I had a trip coming up they bumped me up after waiting 2 weeks on the list. We canceled our APs in April/May during the shutdown and after a long wait we finally got all of our partial refunds. One of my refunds I finally got in December after my initial call-in April (8 months). for anyone doing this you do pay the dvc price, but will have to give the passholder cast member your dvc number to enter to Process the dvc prices. Remember this offer is through wdw passholder team, not dvc, so don’t call members services.

Thanks!! Is this considered a new purchase or a renewal? If a new purchase, is it activated right away or once you go to the park?

 

[n2mm]

Thanks!! Is this considered a new purchase or a renewal? If a new purchase, is it activated right away or once you go to the park?

thisi is a new pass. We actually have DVC gold ap vouchers in our MDE account. Expiration 2099. We activate when we are ready to use them. While we arrive in 2 weeks we’re still on the fence whether we’re going to activate or wait until June with the family. If you had an ap during the shutdown that you canceled or it expired on its own, you should call.

btw, you call the vip AP number, not dvc. This is NOT a dvc offer to recover dead APs, this is a passholder offer. They don’t care if it’s a dvc AP, florida AP, or regular out of state AP. The dvc CMs are clueless to this offer.

 

[n2mm]

Well I stopped at member services or whatever it’s called at Disney Springs. No sympathy or love at all.

I definitely wouldn’t have bought my direct points if I’d have known this would happen. I feel it’s completely unfair that some DVC members are allowed to buy annual passes but others aren’t. That part is insane to me. If they weren’t doing any passes it would feel different but knowing that others get that and I can’t just bugs me.

im sorry this didnt work out. Just wanted to say this is not a dvc offer to re-sell us APs. This is being offered under the VIP passholder division. They aren’t doing it because we are DVC members. They are letting us repurchase because we were passholders during the shutdown. This is for all passholders (florida residents and non-florida residents) who canceled when given the opportunity to do so. It just happens to be some of us are DVC members. Hope they start selling APs for all soon.

 

[Sandisw]

im sorry this didnt work out. Just wanted to say this is not a dvc offer to re-sell us APs. This is being offered under the VIP passholder division. They aren’t doing it because we are DVC members. They are letting us repurchase because we were passholders during the shutdown. This is for all passholders (florida residents and non-florida residents) who canceled when given the opportunity to do so. It just happens to be some of us are DVC members. Hope they start selling APs for all soon.

I think this is really important to understand, even though it’s frustrating.

I would be very surprised if DVD has not tried hard to work a deal to allow DVC owners to get them because it is a great selling point.

But Disney divisions do their own thing and unfortunately, since sales have not opened up for any special groups, the division in charge of APs has obviously decided it’s not worth selling to new people given the restrictions.

 

[Castillo Mom]

I think this is really important to understand, even though it’s frustrating.

I would be very surprised if DVD has not tried hard to work a deal to allow DVC owners to get them because it is a great selling point.

But Disney divisions do their own thing and unfortunately, since sales have not opened up for any special groups, the division in charge of APs has obviously decided it’s not worth selling to new people given the restrictions.

Thank you for pointing this out! I was aware of this, but it looks like many members aren't.

 

[jamier2]

I’m sure that candy coating everything Disney (no matter which division it is) does makes a lot of people here happy but here are the simple facts: some DVC members can buy passes and some can’t. If they truly feel that stopping sales would be best then they shouldn’t sell any. There’s nothing I’ve experienced so far from Disney up until this that seems like such an obvious money grab.

Why? Because they know basically how many nights I’ll be there (based on how many points i have) and they know that I live a long way away. They know I won’t tax the daily attendance a bit more with a pass than without. They also know that they can grab more of my money if they don’t sell me a pass.

 

[4luv2cdisney]

Chapek views passholders as less valuable per several articles I've seen quoting him. So, with limited capacity, he obviously wants to fill the parks as best he can with full-paying heavy spenders.

A quote from https://www.orlandosentinel.com/bus...0210120-x6hu23nf7fanlpvgt6ij4th42m-story.html

“Typically someone who travels and stays for five days to seven days is marginally more valuable to the business than someone who comes in on an annual pass and stays a day or two and consumes less merchandise and food and beverage,” Chapek said in August during an earnings call.

This is an Orlando paper, but even if he's talking more about DL, it's obviously more profitable to charge people full price regardless of park. And there's plenty of Florida residents visitng for short stays or day trips on an AP.

Seems like APs won't come back until parks are at full capacity (and definitely after the 50th).
100% believe APs will come back because we're good enough when we can make park attendance burst at the seams, since we likely have to at least grab a meal and a snack here or there.

I'm actually shocked they're even giving anyone renewals. If APs weren't coming back, nobody would be getting a renewal for sure.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Chapek views passholders as less valuable per several articles I've seen quoting him. So, with limited capacity, he obviously wants to fill the parks as best he can with full-paying heavy spenders.

A quote from https://www.orlandosentinel.com/bus...0210120-x6hu23nf7fanlpvgt6ij4th42m-story.html

“Typically someone who travels and stays for five days to seven days is marginally more valuable to the business than someone who comes in on an annual pass and stays a day or two and consumes less merchandise and food and beverage,” Chapek said in August during an earnings call.

This is an Orlando paper, but even if he's talking more about DL, it's obviously more profitable to charge people full price regardless of park. And there's plenty of Florida residents visitng for short stays or day trips on an AP.

Seems like APs won't come back until parks are at full capacity (and definitely after the 50th).
100% believe APs will come back because we're good enough when we can make park attendance burst at the seams, since we likely have to at least grab a meal and a snack here or there.

I'm actually shocked they're even giving anyone renewals. If APs weren't coming back, nobody would be getting a renewal for sure.

Right... so than why sell any? Why not stop completely??