DVC as your children become adults

[cbyrne1174]

This is a very interesting and insightful observation. Sounds to me you like Disney but don’t really love it. I think the whole point of DVC is being able to stay on Disney property and being immersed in the bubble. I can understand that families can grow out of Disney and that’s fine. I have friends that have both WVC and MVC and they love it because it works for their families. I think most of us love DVC because most of our vacations are at Disney. But you ain’t lying about the prices. DVC, and it’s dues is probably much more expensive than your other traditional timeshares. But I do really appreciate your insight. I think most of the fanbase here have largely been trained to believe that traditional timeshare programs are bad or that they are nothing more than money pits, not realizing that DVC can be the same if it’s not right for your family.

DVC has been the biggest money pit for me and I only own 50 SSR points just so I can access the other deluxe properties (other than OKW and SSR) in a studio once in a while for the kid. My Wyndham deeds were about $1000 (I only picked up fully loaded low MF contracts). My Marriott week was $1800 and my DVC points were $7,800! The Wyndham deeds can be returned back to Wyndham for free (they take back low MF resorts) and my Marriott deed can be resold for more than I paid for it (plus it never expires). You can still stay on Disney property (SSR and OKW) for about $1300/week in a 1 bedroom using a good Marriott 1BR trader (previously Wyndham points).

I go to WDW about twice a month, so I DO love it. I was just there Friday night after work. I just don't see the point of paying the price difference over a fraction of a mile. Most time I go to WDW, I have an hour drive home so I understand wanting to just crash in the closest bed possible. But in terms of enjoyment for kids, the Marriott World Center (accessible through Sabal Palms, Royal Palms and Imperial Palms) is about to have SIX water slides. (3 tube and 3 body). That literally has to be the most AWESOME hotel pool complex in all of Florida. One of the slides is a drop down just like Summit Plummit! and it's less than a mile from the gates! I. Just. Don't. Get. It.

 

[ITGirl50]

I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for my opinion, but I don't find DVC a good value for week long stays. I finally bought into SSR and got 50 points for short studio stays at locations other than SSR or OKW for my kids to enjoy for a night or two at a time. I only bought 50 points because I don't really care to stay much at DVC when my kids are grown. I don't see the point of owning a lot of of DVC points when Wyndham and Marriott are so much more versitile and a better value. I have both Wyndham and Marriott deeds so DVC trading affiliation doesn't matter because I own both II and RCI main companies. As an adult, I find Wyndham and Marriott my preferred ownership over DVC. Also, the one bedrom portion of my 2 bedroom Marriott lockoff pulls all of the SSR Interval International inventory. Here is what I can personally see with my Grande Vista 1 bedroom deposit:

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If I were to stay at SSR for a week at the same times in the picture above, it would cost about $1150 more per week when factoring in buy in cost + annual dues (compared to Marriott dues + trading fees). Also, using a 2 bedroom lock-off legacy Marriott week and splitting the lock-off into two weeks makes so much more financial sense for staying in Orlando (which is ALWAYS available in II). This Lakeshore reserve week in the picture below costed me about $1100/week for the 2 bedroom (maintenance fees + exchange fees). Just the studio portion of my Grande Vista lockoff has enough trading power to pull a 2 bedroom at Lakeshore Reserve. Lakeshore Reserve is attached to the JW Marriott and Ritz Carleton (2 luxury hotels) so its onsite amenties are BETTER for adults than any DVC property IMO. My daughter loves the lazy rivers (1 at Lakeshore and 1 more at the JW) + the two water slides.

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The World center Marriott is also adding a lazy river + 3 more slides (having a total of 6 slides) in March for my daughter to enjoy once shes 48 inches. Alternating between SSR, OKW Lakeshore Reserve and the World center makes much more sense to me than buying a large DVC membership because when my kids are adults, I can just exchange my Grande Vista deed for more adult locations. DVC points are terrible for exchanging out of DVC but its super easy to exchange into SSR or OKW.

Most DVC owners that I converse with are oblivious to the value that other companies have to offer (buying resale of course). These are people that I talk to at the resorts. Some of them know you can buy DVC resale, but almost NONE of them know you can do the same thing with the other big players (Wyndham and Marriott) for a much better value for yourself and the kids. Again, this is my opinion and I am a DVC resale owner.

We own DVC as adults because we like WDW parks and staying on property. It’s for the Disney experience. The parks are for adults too.

 

[DisneyDad0315]

Just looking for some stories and perspectives of how you have used and (hopefully) enjoyed DVC with your older teens and as they become young adults. We have enjoyed Disney through the years as they have grown and are thinking very seriously about purchasing DVC now. Wish we would have earlier!

I own at Aulani and my kids are 5 and 1. I am pretty sure they will always want to go to Hawaii, so I expect them to go with us every year until they are at least 18. After that, I plan on using my points to lure them to come hang out with mom and dad. Who doesn't want a free trip to Aulani? I'll even pay for their airfare, as long as they go. Family is important and DVC will hopefully help me keep my family vacationing for years to come.

 

[AnnaS]

I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for my opinion, but I don't find DVC a good value for week long stays. I finally bought into SSR and got 50 points for short studio stays at locations other than SSR or OKW for my kids to enjoy for a night or two at a time. I only bought 50 points because I don't really care to stay much at DVC when my kids are grown. I don't see the point of owning a lot of of DVC points when Wyndham and Marriott are so much more versitile and a better value. I have both Wyndham and Marriott deeds so DVC trading affiliation doesn't matter because I own both II and RCI main companies. As an adult, I find Wyndham and Marriott my preferred ownership over DVC. Also, the one bedrom portion of my 2 bedroom Marriott lockoff pulls all of the SSR Interval International inventory. Here is what I can personally see with my Grande Vista 1 bedroom deposit:

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If I were to stay at SSR for a week at the same times in the picture above, it would cost about $1150 more per week when factoring in buy in cost + annual dues (compared to Marriott dues + trading fees). Also, using a 2 bedroom lock-off legacy Marriott week and splitting the lock-off into two weeks makes so much more financial sense for staying in Orlando (which is ALWAYS available in II). This Lakeshore reserve week in the picture below costed me about $1100/week for the 2 bedroom (maintenance fees + exchange fees). Just the studio portion of my Grande Vista lockoff has enough trading power to pull a 2 bedroom at Lakeshore Reserve. Lakeshore Reserve is attached to the JW Marriott and Ritz Carleton (2 luxury hotels) so its onsite amenties are BETTER for adults than any DVC property IMO. My daughter loves the lazy rivers (1 at Lakeshore and 1 more at the JW) + the two water slides.

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The World center Marriott is also adding a lazy river + 3 more slides (having a total of 6 slides) in March for my daughter to enjoy once shes 48 inches. Alternating between SSR, OKW Lakeshore Reserve and the World center makes much more sense to me than buying a large DVC membership because when my kids are adults, I can just exchange my Grande Vista deed for more adult locations. DVC points are terrible for exchanging out of DVC but its super easy to exchange into SSR or OKW.

Most DVC owners that I converse with are oblivious to the value that other companies have to offer (buying resale of course). These are people that I talk to at the resorts. Some of them know you can buy DVC resale, but almost NONE of them know you can do the same thing with the other big players (Wyndham and Marriott) for a much better value for yourself and the kids. Again, this is my opinion and I am a DVC resale owner.

No hate from here.

We all have different reasons and opinions and that is good. What works for one, might not work for the other. My son (owns a small contract) has three small children and has mentioned many times that he can stay in bigger accommodations off site with plenty of amenities to enjoy at those places too and save money. For now, while the kids are small, it does help so much to be in the bubble. It makes it easier too to leave a park/run back to the resort, or go to a park without a spouse/friend and meet up at a later time, etc. Little things that might/might not matter to others.

We have also stayed many times inside and outside prior to purchasing DVC. I say whatever works for each family is great!! Enjoy!!!

 

[disneydietitian]

I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for my opinion, but I don't find DVC a good value for week long stays. I finally bought into SSR and got 50 points for short studio stays at locations other than SSR or OKW for my kids to enjoy for a night or two at a time. I only bought 50 points because I don't really care to stay much at DVC when my kids are grown. I don't see the point of owning a lot of of DVC points when Wyndham and Marriott are so much more versitile and a better value. I have both Wyndham and Marriott deeds so DVC trading affiliation doesn't matter because I own both II and RCI main companies. As an adult, I find Wyndham and Marriott my preferred ownership over DVC. Also, the one bedrom portion of my 2 bedroom Marriott lockoff pulls all of the SSR Interval International inventory. Here is what I can personally see with my Grande Vista 1 bedroom deposit:

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If I were to stay at SSR for a week at the same times in the picture above, it would cost about $1150 more per week when factoring in buy in cost + annual dues (compared to Marriott dues + trading fees). Also, using a 2 bedroom lock-off legacy Marriott week and splitting the lock-off into two weeks makes so much more financial sense for staying in Orlando (which is ALWAYS available in II). This Lakeshore reserve week in the picture below costed me about $1100/week for the 2 bedroom (maintenance fees + exchange fees). Just the studio portion of my Grande Vista lockoff has enough trading power to pull a 2 bedroom at Lakeshore Reserve. Lakeshore Reserve is attached to the JW Marriott and Ritz Carleton (2 luxury hotels) so its onsite amenties are BETTER for adults than any DVC property IMO. My daughter loves the lazy rivers (1 at Lakeshore and 1 more at the JW) + the two water slides.

View attachment 643459

The World center Marriott is also adding a lazy river + 3 more slides (having a total of 6 slides) in March for my daughter to enjoy once shes 48 inches. Alternating between SSR, OKW Lakeshore Reserve and the World center makes much more sense to me than buying a large DVC membership because when my kids are adults, I can just exchange my Grande Vista deed for more adult locations. DVC points are terrible for exchanging out of DVC but its super easy to exchange into SSR or OKW.

Most DVC owners that I converse with are oblivious to the value that other companies have to offer (buying resale of course). These are people that I talk to at the resorts. Some of them know you can buy DVC resale, but almost NONE of them know you can do the same thing with the other big players (Wyndham and Marriott) for a much better value for yourself and the kids. Again, this is my opinion and I am a DVC resale owner.

It might be true about the other players, but there is personal value to me in being on Disney property. I just don't get the same excitement from staying offsite. I know some people do, though!

 

[holden]

We own at BLT (since 2014) and go twice a year. This next trip will be the first without our oldest DD. She doesn't want to go.

I'm hoping she'll circle back around someday. I'm pretty sure she will.

 

[eandt]

Just looking for some stories and perspectives of how you have used and (hopefully) enjoyed DVC with your older teens and as they become young adults. We have enjoyed Disney through the years as they have grown and are thinking very seriously about purchasing DVC now. Wish we would have earlier!

Our kids are adults. We should have bought DVC years ago but the timing was never right. Finally after 25 or so trips (mostly moderates) we bought in June. What got us over the "hump" was renting points a couple of times for us only trips. Totally different experience but after doing those we knew we wanted to have points of our own. We have already bought a second contract and have our next trip planned for December. Guess who is going along with us ...... yep, our adult kids and their girlfriends! We are able to pick up all of the rooms so the cost for the trip won't shell shock them. We also plan to bring our niece and nephew and their daughters with us in 2023 which is something we probably would never have been able to do without DVC. It's been a long time since we took a disney trip with little ones, we are really looking forward to it! Should have bought sooner but even now it has opened up a new chapter of Disney for us as we plan to use (not rent) our points right up until we are no longer able to travel. Good luck with your decision!

 

[RoseGold]

These threads are weird to me, maybe because my family couldn't afford Disney and I had zero interest in this as a young adult. Since I started going to Disney, every trip could have paid for a nice trip to Europe instead, even staying AoA. With APs and some cheap, Covid-y flights in there, maybe not, but the concept is the same. Disney is EXPENSIVE. I think it's fair to compare it to much more exciting vacations, like Europe.

It's hard for me to imagine a teenager wanting to go to Disney more than a one-off thing for Star Wars or something. In my first couple jobs, I had very little vacation and I saved it all to go somewhere far off. Sure, you prepaid your timeshare for your kid and his friends, but there's no reason you couldn't pay for an AirBnb in Spain for the same price.

I expect Disney to lose its magic past puberty and to do much more adventurous travel with older kids. My plan was to rent out a VGF contract to maybe hold for grandkids. But the smarter move might be to sell when we outgrow it in a few years -- and reassess when grandkids are on the table.

Especially now that I know about renting points and about the Swolphin's laundry room, it seems like there are so many other choices on the table. I'm not married to this timeshare.

 

[igrsod]

We bought into DVC when our kids were older teens... after many years of going and paying cash for rooms in all booking categories. We were stand offish about getting into a timeshare... so we avoided.
After years of research, we finally decided to buy in. AND boy are we happy we did and have since added on.
Our kids are now in their 20s and while they don't go as much as they used to because of jobs etc.... they still do join us when they can and bring significant others too.
If they have kids in the future, we will probably add on more points.
For us WDW vacations are memories... great memories. It truly is like "coming home" for us and more importantly them.
Our only regret (and it turns my stomach), how much we spent paying cash all those years.

Also... for reference our first contract bought resale was $100 per point at AKL, that same contract is worth $144 or so per point and we have had years of trips. Value beyond belief for us.

 

[eandt]

Dont worry dvc lovers I don't think Those that have no desire to travel to "far off lands" are weird but maybe that's because I am one of you. International travel even before covid but especially now is not at all attractive to me. When I find a place that I find safe and comfortable for my family I keep going back, Disney for us is one of those places.

 

[AnnaS]

With teenagers - or even adults - some will say they outgrow Disney even if they don't. Some will admit they still love Disney. It's all good. A few get away from it, but I found it has only been briefly. They have their own families and come to love it again.

We/everyone - DVC or not, should mix up vacations. It should not always be Disney. There is another whole world out there. We have done so many cruises - they have experienced horseback riding, ATV, sailing, snorkeling, scuba diving, fishing, etc. Etc. We also did the 11 Night DCL med cruise and two of my three kids did an International trip (Italy & London) while in high school. We also visited Universal, Seaworld, Water Country USA, Williamsburg, Rocking Horse Ranch,

If one, can, other exposure is good and healthy

 

[thank_the_phoenicians88]

The topic of Disney when the kids grow older is something my wife and I talked about frequently. There likely will come a day where my kids don't want to do Disney the way we do it now, but Orlando has a lot of fun options in addition to Disney. I see a day where Universal will join the mix. I guess what's nice about DVC is that we have a place to visit every year, the food is excellent, the atmosphere is enjoyable, and it is central to anything we would want to do. In recent years, we've enjoyed using DVC as a stopping point on our way to the Ft. Myers area. We do several pool days, do the parks in the evening, and its low-key. Family hit! On years where we won't want to go, I know I can easily rent the points and put a little extra cash back in my pocket.

 

[DaveNan]

We started doing Disney trips every other year when my daughters were 1 and 4 in the 90's, primarily moderates. I toyed with DVC sometime in the 00's, but the MF, the commitment to every 2 to 3 years, and funding college always had me deciding to stay with the moderates. Way back then, the cost of the MF on the points was not that different then the moderates, since we traveled during high point seasons and I always got deals on vacation packages (either free tickets or 20-40% off). As the girls got into high school/college Disney trips actually became annual, and we moved to the Swan as our normal resort. We would ask the girls - cruise, all inclusive, beach? and the answer was always - we are too busy with sports, school, and jobs we can't get the time. Then we would offer Disney, and somehow that would work in the calendars and we went to Disney every year. Finally, as the youngest was half way through college (the monies understood and accounted for), it became apparent, even as young adults, they would find the time for an annual Disney trip. We did an exploratory rental stay split between a studio in SSR and a 1BR in BCV. Between making the reservation and having the stay, I was out of ROFR and waiting on our first resale contract to close. Going through the rental process gave me a clear picture about availability of villas and the existence of a strong rental market. Even if we didn't go every all the time, I could always rent out the points.

Now, we have gotten up to almost 1000 points (not in the club yet), taken trips with just my wife and I, have taken trips with my siblings and kids, taken trips with both DD and their husbands, and my daughters have taken some couples only trips. I pretty much just ask they cover the MF's. We took a trip with another DVC couple and shared a GV with a third couple, it was great. We are planning a trip to Aulani with the daughters and husbands, and we are planning a trip with my wives siblings. Needless to say, I have not "rented" out many points (beyond family). For us, it wasn't until it was clear my DDs would still be wanting Disney trips as young adults and that my wife and I wanted to do couples/adult group trips that it made sense. For us it did, but those are big ifs. If the girls didn't want Disney, or if we wanted cruises, Europe, and Asia trips, obviously DVC would not be a fit.

 

[Lorana]

Is planning ADRs at 60 days more challenging because the young adults might want to do their own thing?

No, not for us at least, since we plan "doing your own thing" (versus doing things as a family) into our plans. For one thing, when we travel as a family, we always book 1BRs or 2BRs, so we have a full kitchen, and we usually use it at least for making breakfast, and then easy food for snacks, some lunches, and some dinners. And then we decide on what meals we want to do as a family at sit-down restaurants -- usually letting the kids pick at least one if they have a strong interest (for my oldest, that usually means Teppen Edo or Tokyo Dining!).

When the kids were little, we often did morning in the parks, came back to the resort in the afternoon for naps and pool time, and then went back in the late evenings (this of course being back when FREE extended hours for resort guests were a thing!). As they've gotten older, mornings are no longer a thing with them. Teenagers like to sleep in! Even my oldest, who is more a morning person like me, doesn't want to trudge out to the parks in the AM. Or if we do, they want the evenings to themselves to do whatever. So that's how we plan out our days, given them either mornings or evenings to do whatever they want, and usually one or two days that are "resort time / do whatever time" if we're there for a week.

I think which is a long way of saying that, as a family, we only really plan maybe 3-5 sit down meals/ADRs in a week, partly to also give us flexibility to do whatever (and save money doing QS meals), but also because we DO use the kitchen, and so are more likely to do breakfasts and/or dinners in the villa as a family.

 

[ITGirl50]

These threads are weird to me, maybe because my family couldn't afford Disney and I had zero interest in this as a young adult. Since I started going to Disney, every trip could have paid for a nice trip to Europe instead, even staying AoA. With APs and some cheap, Covid-y flights in there, maybe not, but the concept is the same. Disney is EXPENSIVE. I think it's fair to compare it to much more exciting vacations, like Europe.

It's hard for me to imagine a teenager wanting to go to Disney more than a one-off thing for Star Wars or something. In my first couple jobs, I had very little vacation and I saved it all to go somewhere far off. Sure, you prepaid your timeshare for your kid and his friends, but there's no reason you couldn't pay for an AirBnb in Spain for the same price.

I expect Disney to lose its magic past puberty and to do much more adventurous travel with older kids. My plan was to rent out a VGF contract to maybe hold for grandkids. But the smarter move might be to sell when we outgrow it in a few years -- and reassess when grandkids are on the table.

Especially now that I know about renting points and about the Swolphin's laundry room, it seems like there are so many other choices on the table. I'm not married to this timeshare.

Airfare to Europe is expensive. Plus the flight takes 8-10 hours. Time zone changes, jet lag etc. All this travel time will require at least a week off of work. We use DVC as a our vacation home. Safe, comfortable, not stressful. It's actually not that expense when you buy annual passes and have your room pre-paid with DVC. Sure you can go to Europe, but that's a special trip. It's not like going to your vacation home for a week or even a long weekend.

 

[disneydietitian]

These threads are weird to me, maybe because my family couldn't afford Disney and I had zero interest in this as a young adult. Since I started going to Disney, every trip could have paid for a nice trip to Europe instead, even staying AoA. With APs and some cheap, Covid-y flights in there, maybe not, but the concept is the same. Disney is EXPENSIVE. I think it's fair to compare it to much more exciting vacations, like Europe.

It's hard for me to imagine a teenager wanting to go to Disney more than a one-off thing for Star Wars or something. In my first couple jobs, I had very little vacation and I saved it all to go somewhere far off. Sure, you prepaid your timeshare for your kid and his friends, but there's no reason you couldn't pay for an AirBnb in Spain for the same price.

I expect Disney to lose its magic past puberty and to do much more adventurous travel with older kids. My plan was to rent out a VGF contract to maybe hold for grandkids. But the smarter move might be to sell when we outgrow it in a few years -- and reassess when grandkids are on the table.

Especially now that I know about renting points and about the Swolphin's laundry room, it seems like there are so many other choices on the table. I'm not married to this timeshare.

You definitely don't seem to be married to this timeshare. It's a different perspective. To each their own!

 

[npatellye]

These threads are weird to me, maybe because my family couldn't afford Disney and I had zero interest in this as a young adult. Since I started going to Disney, every trip could have paid for a nice trip to Europe instead, even staying AoA. With APs and some cheap, Covid-y flights in there, maybe not, but the concept is the same. Disney is EXPENSIVE. I think it's fair to compare it to much more exciting vacations, like Europe.

It's hard for me to imagine a teenager wanting to go to Disney more than a one-off thing for Star Wars or something. In my first couple jobs, I had very little vacation and I saved it all to go somewhere far off. Sure, you prepaid your timeshare for your kid and his friends, but there's no reason you couldn't pay for an AirBnb in Spain for the same price.

We never bought in planning to do only Disney vacations. I think there are many, many other DVC members just like us who use Disney as in between trips and not as their only trip.

Taking our kids (now 9 and 6) to Bermuda, Aruba, Curaçao, Turks and Caicos, etc. pre-pandemic cost us considerably more than our pre-pandemic Disney trips (when we stayed for 5-7 nights at AKL, CBR, etc.). And those trips all cost less than it cost for my husband and I to go to Majorca for 6 nights.

Maybe our way of doing DVC and vacationing isn’t everyone’s cup of tea but the great thing is that everyone can do whatever makes sense and works for them and their families.

 

[MiraclesTakeTime]

We are an older couple and have been considering DVC. I can say trips can be great without kids, and then there are the grandkids to think about, as well as how the trip can be different and just as fun with adult children.

 

[cbyrne1174]

These threads are weird to me, maybe because my family couldn't afford Disney and I had zero interest in this as a young adult. Since I started going to Disney, every trip could have paid for a nice trip to Europe instead, even staying AoA. With APs and some cheap, Covid-y flights in there, maybe not, but the concept is the same. Disney is EXPENSIVE. I think it's fair to compare it to much more exciting vacations, like Europe.

It's hard for me to imagine a teenager wanting to go to Disney more than a one-off thing for Star Wars or something. In my first couple jobs, I had very little vacation and I saved it all to go somewhere far off. Sure, you prepaid your timeshare for your kid and his friends, but there's no reason you couldn't pay for an AirBnb in Spain for the same price.

I expect Disney to lose its magic past puberty and to do much more adventurous travel with older kids. My plan was to rent out a VGF contract to maybe hold for grandkids. But the smarter move might be to sell when we outgrow it in a few years -- and reassess when grandkids are on the table.

Especially now that I know about renting points and about the Swolphin's laundry room, it seems like there are so many other choices on the table. I'm not married to this timeshare.

My thoughts exactly! I like the idea of having a small amount of DVC points for single night stays since I live so close, but I don't plan on having annual passes every year. I like to alternate between Disney and Universal. I like to book longer stays using cheap points (Marriott and Wyndham) since it's so close to my house and travelling with kids is a pain. That being said, I can't wait until I use my Wyndham and Marriott for Maui, St Thomas and Puerto Rico (the Margaritaville resort). Until then, I'm good with offsite, SSR or OKW for weeklong stays.

 

[WDWBW09]

Hello everyone. So I guess my wife are somewhat insiders as we have stayed on and off property and just was approved for BWV. I will say that not all of my kids love Disney. We have five. Three boys and two girls. Our daughters would kill to go to Disney. Our son's. Not so much. We took many trips with all of them when they were young on property. We decided to rent DVC points for a few trips. Then we decided to rent homes off property.

As the years past we ended up buying a home in Davenport. We had that for a few years then sold for a few reasons but the main reason was the plant I worked in was closing and we didn't want to carry three mortgages when I transferred to the new plant.

Past few years we have rented VRBO condo's in Reunion the latest being Thanksgiving of 2020. My wife for the past three years have been staying at the Bohemian in Celebration. Which we love but decided this year will be the last year and took the plunge to buy into DVC BWV. That is being finalized as of 4/22 as we received approval for our ROFR.

Now the tricky part is to take a family vacation for a family of thirteen we would literally need multiple rooms as they all have significant others and one has a few children. We are at Grand Villa Level at this point plus a Studio and will need to bank and borrow to have everyone together for a family vacation.

There are other realities with this matter and we were sitting at our home bar discussing this with our eldest daughter last night. They will need to pay their own airfare and for some of their dinners. Mom and Dad will probably pay for the tickets, a few nice dinners, and of course the accommodations (DVC). It's a very interesting dynamic to say the least.

Some are more well off than others with careers and money. Some not so much so. Hard to find the balance financially with the scenario. The struggle is real for large families and parents that have this one their bucket list to have the entire family stay on property. Along with living the dream of spending time in the parks together and making new family memories as we have in the past.

Will figure it out somehow. We always do.