Dress your daughter like Dolly Parton and you might lose custody

[plutotek]

And once that very small step is made, the door is wide open for any parent to question the other on the basis of letting the kid play certain sports or entering beauty pageants or other organized activities.

Regardless of the case at hand, given the litiginous nature of our society, that door is always wide open. A parent is free to make whatever accusation or claim in a custody case, but it is up to the court to judge the merits of those claims, as they will in this case. I think what makes this seem different is the negatively provocative nature of these types of programs, but the father's claim is not really different from others that have been filed in 1000s of cases.

 

[meggiebeth]

I disagree with child beauty pageants but parents can make their own choices. This Dolly Parton outfit is no worse than what some kids wear on Halloween as a PP stated.

While I think it was wrong doing it, and putting her child in that costume, it really isn't something to lose custody of your child over.

 

[RitaE]

I disagree with child beauty pageants but parents can make their own choices. This Dolly Parton outfit is no worse than what some kids wear on Halloween as a PP stated.

While I think it was wrong doing it, and putting her child in that costume, it really isn't something to lose custody of your child over.

But I'd have to say there is a huge difference between Social Services "taking a child away" and the child's parent wanting it stopped and being willing to go to court of the issue.

I sure as hell would be doing everything I could to stop it if somebody had my children on TV acting in such a manner and looking like that.

 

[Queen2PrincessG]

As with anything I think "todller and Tiara" displays the worse of the worse. The moms they showcase go overboard and this dad is completely within his right. I think the more interesting situation is what the court psychologist said because that is what the judge is basing his ruling on as of right now. There is nothing wrong with dolling up a child but when you begin sexualizing them, that is a problem.

 

[Queen2PrincessG]

I disagree with child beauty pageants but parents can make their own choices. This Dolly Parton outfit is no worse than what some kids wear on Halloween as a PP stated.

While I think it was wrong doing it, and putting her child in that costume, it really isn't something to lose custody of your child over.

I think the costume is fine but the padding is what is questionable. It;s sad theses days to look for a Halloween costume. EVERYTHING is sexy this, sexy that http://www.buycostumes.com/browse/Female/Kids-Costumes/_/N-jZ3l/results1.aspx

why does a teen need to be sexy? Just on the front page alone, the word "sexy" is used 4 times.

 

[meggiebeth]

But I'd have to say there is a huge difference between Social Services "taking a child away" and the child's parent wanting it stopped and being willing to go to court of the issue.

I sure as hell would be doing everything I could to stop it if somebody had my children on TV acting in such a manner and looking like that.

Sorry, I was thinking more of social services taking a child away. That would be silly. Some kids have fun in pageants. I think what T&T shows is somewhat exaggerated and not the majority of pageants.

I can imagine the poor dad having his daughter humiliated infront of international television. Good luck to him.

I think the costume is fine but the padding is what is questionable. It;s sad theses days to look for a Halloween costume. EVERYTHING is sexy this, sexy that http://www.buycostumes.com/browse/Female/Kids-Costumes/_/N-jZ3l/results1.aspx

why does a teen need to be sexy? Just on the front page alone, the word "sexy" is used 4 times.

I totally agree. Most of the costumes in our party and fancy dress shops nowadays are sexualized costumes. It's bad enough for a teen to wear one but for a toddler?!

There's no denying that the costume is very inappropriate but the mother shouldn't lose custody of her daughter just for this. Perhaps an agreement could be made over her involvement in pageants?

 

[cornflake]

Sorry, I was thinking more of social services taking a child away. That would be silly. Some kids have fun in pageants. I think what T&T shows is somewhat exaggerated and not the majority of pageants.

I can imagine the poor dad having his daughter humiliated infront of international television. Good luck to him.



I totally agree. Most of the costumes in our party and fancy dress shops nowadays are sexualized costumes. It's bad enough for a teen to wear one but for a toddler?!

There's no denying that the costume is very inappropriate but the mother shouldn't lose custody of her daughter just for this. Perhaps an agreement could be made over her involvement in pageants?

Why not? I mean how far does it have to go?

This wasn't a momentary thing or even an inappropriate Halloween costume. This is god knows how long in the planning, making of that mess, having her practice that routine, putting her on stage and on television doing it.

I have no problem with the idea that that's far enough to lose custody over. No one is saying she'll never see the kid again, she can have visitation, etc., but if you're not responsible, the responsible parent needs to take over.

 

[meggiebeth]

Why not? I mean how far does it have to go?

This wasn't a momentary thing or even an inappropriate Halloween costume. This is god knows how long in the planning, making of that mess, having her practice that routine, putting her on stage and on television doing it.

I have no problem with the idea that that's far enough to lose custody over. No one is saying she'll never see the kid again, she can have visitation, etc., but if you're not responsible, the responsible parent needs to take over.

I think, first, an agreement could be made about taking her daughter out of pageants, or doing only natural ones, in return for keeping custody of her daughter. If she continues to be irresponsible and put her daughter in such inappropriate outfits then yes, the girls father could gain custody.

Hopefully the mother has learned her lesson. It would really sadden me to discover that she dressed her daughter like that for 15 minutes of fame or something. That outfit is crying out for attention.

 

[Queen2PrincessG]

Lose custody, maybe not but she should be banned from pagents. She no better than Heidi Fliess! Dressing her daughter that way is deplorable and leaving god only knows what kind of mental scars. The dad and psychiatrist are worried so hopefully it will shake her into reality.

 

[honeydiane1953]

Going to the pageants like on T/T is extreme. The money that is wasted on clothes, entrance fees etc is ridiculous. MOST of the little girls hate them... the Mother's stress out max over them. Who wins? The pageant directors.

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

Wait...so dressing the kid up for a routine is really bad parenting but the selling of your kids for tv on these reality shows is fine? John and Kate? Toddlers and Tiaras? Dance Moms, where we all get to watch that fat troll make little kids cry week after week? and let's not forget the new Here Comes Honey Boo Boo.

All that is okay, but the dress goes too far? That kid is showing much less skin than most the kids in dance recitals/competitions, cheerleading competitions and other things. Where they are taught to "shake their booty" too.

So if you want to cry "foul", cry for them all. All those poor kids filmed doing stupid crap, on reruns forever and ever. Like the little 4 year old on T&T filmed for all the world picking her nose and wiping it on her shirt. That's okay tho, right? For righteous entertainment purposes?

 

[Robinrs]

All those pageants are is fodder for the pedophiles of the world and a bunch of dumpy housewives with no real self worth or societal contribution who try to live through their children (again in my opinion).

Who you callin' DUMPY?????

 

[Queen2PrincessG]

Wait...so dressing the kid up for a routine is really bad parenting but the selling of your kids for tv on these reality shows is fine? John and Kate? Toddlers and Tiaras? Dance Moms, where we all get to watch that fat troll make little kids cry week after week? and let's not forget the new Here Comes Honey Boo Boo.

All that is okay, but the dress goes too far? That kid is showing much less skin than most the kids in dance recitals/competitions, cheerleading competitions and other things. Where they are taught to "shake their booty" too.

So if you want to cry "foul", cry for them all. All those poor kids filmed doing stupid crap, on reruns forever and ever. Like the little 4 year old on T&T filmed for all the world picking her nose and wiping it on her shirt. That's okay tho, right? For righteous entertainment purposes?

Skin doesn't equal sexy. Most people know that. Catwoman is sexy, she wears a skin tight body suit. I've never seen Christiana Hendricks wear anything low cut on mad men and she's beyond sexy.

You're right though we watch the shows, they get high ratings, they produce more shows like it.

 

[Robinrs]

Wait...so dressing the kid up for a routine is really bad parenting but the selling of your kids for tv on these reality shows is fine? John and Kate? Toddlers and Tiaras? Dance Moms, where we all get to watch that fat troll make little kids cry week after week? and let's not forget the new Here Comes Honey Boo Boo.

All that is okay, but the dress goes too far? That kid is showing much less skin than most the kids in dance recitals/competitions, cheerleading competitions and other things. Where they are taught to "shake their booty" too.

So if you want to cry "foul", cry for them all. All those poor kids filmed doing stupid crap, on reruns forever and ever. Like the little 4 year old on T&T filmed for all the world picking her nose and wiping it on her shirt. That's okay tho, right? For righteous entertainment purposes?

Ridiculous comparison. Like comparing wrestling to WWE. Similar but not pedophile fodder. BIG difference.

 

[eliza61]

So in the interest of full disclosure let me say, I am not a fan of these "toddler" pagents.


IMO it is all about the sexualizing of the girls. i'm not surprised that one of them finally pushed the envelope and had padded backside and breast. It's not only about the clothes, it's the entire "competition", the strutting, the blowing kisses, the over the shoulder winking. All of it screams, I'm sexy, let me use my body to win.

and the issue is that after this the bar will be ramped up

Now I don't know what type of mom this women is but I know if I was the dad, yep I'd be hauling her into court trying to get custody.

 

[eliza61]

Wait...so dressing the kid up for a routine is really bad parenting but the selling of your kids for tv on these reality shows is fine? John and Kate? Toddlers and Tiaras? Dance Moms, where we all get to watch that fat troll make little kids cry week after week? and let's not forget the new Here Comes Honey Boo Boo.

All that is okay, but the dress goes too far? That kid is showing much less skin than most the kids in dance recitals/competitions, cheerleading competitions and other things. Where they are taught to "shake their booty" too.

So if you want to cry "foul", cry for them all. All those poor kids filmed doing stupid crap, on reruns forever and ever. Like the little 4 year old on T&T filmed for all the world picking her nose and wiping it on her shirt. That's okay tho, right? For righteous entertainment purposes?

Is honey boo-boo throwing kisses over her shoulder or doing the "hair flick" with winky winking? the dance routines on dance moms don't look any thing like the "strumpet strut" as my dh and I call the walk those 6 year olds do, Hands on hips, switch, switch, switch. stop, stick out backside to one side with hand on hip?

That ain't to sell girl scout cookis, that's to sell sex. They can't have fun in pagents while walking naturally in a pretty dress?

 

[handinpocket]

I would think a pedophile would want a little girl to look like....oh, a little girl. They would be more apt to hang out at playgrounds or somewhere like Walt Disney World.

Don't get me wrong, I think pageants are disgusting (kiddy to adult), but I certainly don't equate it with child abuse.

 

[honeydiane1953]

I beg to differ. It is a form of child abuse. Having shows like JOn and Kate that too was child abuse. LEAVE your kids out of your need for greed and fame.

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

Ridiculous comparison. Like comparing wrestling to WWE. Similar but not pedophile fodder. BIG difference.

Really? The young girls writhing to the beat on Dance Mom's isn't pedo fodder? Keep thinking that if it makes you feel better.

ALso, in your lovely photo with the fat mom, she's flanked by two nice looking mom's on either side, so pagent kid = dumpy mom is a fail.

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

Is honey boo-boo throwing kisses over her shoulder or doing the "hair flick" with winky winking? the dance routines on dance moms don't look any thing like the "strumpet strut" as my dh and I call the walk those 6 year olds do, Hands on hips, switch, switch, switch. stop, stick out backside to one side with hand on hip?

That ain't to sell girl scout cookis, that's to sell sex. They can't have fun in pagents while walking naturally in a pretty dress?

If you haven't seen the tart moves, you've missed most of Dance Mom's. Their outfits alone are ridiculous. News flash, the dancing girls aren't selling Girl Scout cookies either.

There is no difference between them. They are all using the kids to sell sex. The routines of the Dance Mom kids are pretty much all sexual.

You want to pull one of these kid based reality shows apart, you need to hold the standard for all of them. For you to even try to say the Dance Mom kids aren't selling sex is ridiculous. They do it every week.