Dress Code for YS...Is there one?

[MrToad]

I think we are in agreement on compliance with the dress code bicker. Where we may disagree is in the policy itself. And as a counterpoint, I would expect my hosts to not embarass a guest if that guest was not properly informed of the dress code.

 

[bicker]

I think you can be sure that Disney wouldn't even embarass a guest if the guest chose not to comply with the dress code. And of course, there's no telling the difference.

 

[MrToad]

Good point, it would be hard to tell the difference. However, the OP claims he was embarassed at the entrance by being asked to put on a collared shirt. I guess it all depends on how it was handled by both the guest and the manager. I agree that it would be surprising if Disney ever embarassed a guest based on my own experience.

Anyway, compliance issues aside...I still think it is a silly policy because they are creating the situation where something like this can happen in the first place and it is largely unnecessary IMHO. Makes for a spirited discussion though.

 

[johnvree]

But this week when I made an AR for Brown Derby for our next trip, she didn't mention a dress code for BD. So I did ask. According to Disney Dining there is no dress code for Brown Derby which makes sense to me but still.... I personally suspect it was an oversight in the booklet but how is a guest to know?
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I can't imagine going to MGM is business casual in the summer. Just think how great it will be chasing your kids throught the HISTK movie playground in slacks and shoes.

 

[Paco]

First of all...................Who said I was too important to comply????????????????????????????????? Don't try to act all upper class, you don't know me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have plenty of clothes at home, that I used to take with me, that never got worn, so when Southwest charges extra over 25 pounds, why bother taking extra stuff????? Besides, I'm just following what I see other people wearing, that is, the people actually on vacation and not people that are there doing work for free and being told it is a plus that they are given the trip. Having the guide in the room is a little too late to pack, don't you think??
Not all people make priority seatings. I only do it to get a couple of waiters that I know. Besides, they're full of crap about being full all the time. Anywhere I go, I don't have to wait more than 5 minutes to get seated. I've been there so much, I don't really make any plans, I just go with the wind. The point is, I really don't even go to the parks much anymore, I go to enjoy the hotels and restaurants. I'm one who will eat in mostly the expensive places, and that's why I'm pissed, because, that's what I was there for......To spend tons of cash in thier restaurants. Then when I get there, they tell me I can't eat in thier restaurants because they changed thier policy 2 days ago, where was the warning??? They sent me all kinds of crap to make reservations etc... Where was the notice? Well, then I'm going home!!! If it wasn't for my wife, I would've, as I book room only and can leave without losing anything. I should've went to the hotel manager and made a huge stink out of it, but I figured instead of making a scene like I see a lot of people do, I just blew it off and worried every day if I was going to get to eat that night. But now, I think monday I will call to complain, because he was very rude, and made me look like an idiot. The other restaurants didn't even flinch, and looked at me like I had 2 heads when I asked about a dress code.


As far as more restaurants now. ??? No way! Ariels is gone, they added what? A freezer and a gelato counter? The store isn't even like OKW,SSR,BWV, they just rearranged the old store, stuck in a freezer and a counter, it's not big enough, not enough stuff. Beaches and Cream has a line across the walkway, Cape May has a line through the lobby, so much so that they removed half the furniture to decongest it. People in Cape May cutting in line, pushing, shoving, emptying dessert trays as fast as they put them out. REAL CLASSY!!! A bellman I knew asked to be moved to the YC side because he couldn't take any more. Half of EPCOT is gone, missing like 4 restaurants in FW.

As far as the rooms go, if there's only 200, they hold a lot more people being they're 1&2 bedrooms and so on. I remember walking through there as they were finishing the rooms (back door was held open with a soda bottle) and thought " My God, this place is huge!"

The Solarium was supposed to be a central gathering place, where all the cruise line people that stayed on site first, would be rounded up from various hotels, to wait for the bus. At least that's what I was told when they were building it. I don't know if they use it for that or not now. I've been there twice since the BCV opening, once BC, once YC, both concierge. I thought YC would be quieter, it was but that's just the room. Even the CM's are rude now. I'll never stay there again. Sorry.

 

[BCV23]

There are many studios and one bedrooms at BCV. The occupancy in those rooms is four so less than a room in Y or BC. The 2 BRs can sleep 8 but I doubt many people do that and there are far fewer of those anyway. I know when we get a 2BR it is for 4 of us. We get a one BR when there are three. But again, the occupancy is not up 50% or anywhere close.

I also disagree with you about the stores. The ones at BWV and OKW are comparable except they do not have made to order sandwiches, a bakery counter, etc. I haven't seen the SSR store but haven't heard any raves about it.

Ariel's closed a long time before BC Marketplace opened and I don't think the two are related in the least. Ariel's was a table service restaurant that served dinner only and was obviously underused. BCMarketplace helps fill an entirely different need.

What three restaurants are missing in Epcot? I can only think of the Odyssey which wasn't a restaurant but counter service. What am I forgetting?

You know lots of people spend a lot of money on Disney Dining including some on this thread. Not sure what that has to do with anything???

I agree about the lines at Cape May but we never eat there so can't attest to how people behave.

I wonder if some CM assumed the solarium was for the cruise line. We've been staying there since BCV opened and no such use that we've seen?

Sorry you didn't enjoy yourself.

 

[Paco]

Who told me about the solarium was the DVC salesman. Now I remember seeing a busload or two. There were drinks and snacks set up on the counter. This was before the Villas were finished, when they had the fence up. I went in there after the people left and saw some papers and brochures around. I don't know where the bus took them.

The other stores have more stuff, more like a market (you have a kitchen). What good is a bakery and gelato, when you don't have something like a food court? Where do you eat food? O.K. sandwiches are a start. A food court originally wasn't built onto the Y&B, just HH and B&C. Which are very small. Before the Villas, these places were empty. Yachtsman Steakhouse was empty before the convention center, then BOOM!! Suits all around. Cape May and YC Galley were crowded most of the time. They probably closed the Galley to divert people elsewhere. Glad they finally re-opened it. The marketplace was an afterthought. All that land and they didn't think of maybe building something inside the Villas? Ariels was always crowded, they closed it just before Boardwalk was opened to appease the non-Disney owners of The Flying Fish. Bad move. Sorry, but I used to stay at Y&B since it opened, it's nowhere near what it was. When are the Villas at Grand Floridian opening??? When are the villas at The Polynesian opening??? My bet is never. And that's the point, BCV should have never happened, and Disney knows it now. Again, nothing wrong with Boardwalk, OKW, SSR. Beautiful places!!! Build more of those!!! Now, VWL, for some reason, didn't have much impact on the hotel. Maybe it was because they had a food court and no convention center, but I hardly notice the difference since it opened. Do you know how many rooms are in that one??? Maybe there's not as many???

Communicore west...Pizza Piazza, there was a bakery next to it, and I heard the land shut down the food court downstairs...??? Along with the Odyssey.

My point wasn't the money, it was that I go there for the restaurants. If I travel 1000 miles and all of a sudden they pull a fast one, i guess I just traveled 1000 miles for nothing. It's real easy.....Tell people before they come....It's that simple. There was no way I was going to buy 42 dollar Mickey Mouse collared shirts............I have plenty in my closet

 

[Uncleromulus]

Still not convinced they pulled a fast one--WDW-wide, anyway. It could still have been a maverick manager deciding to get tough on his/her own.
Let's just see if we get more reports like this--or reports where folks call for ADR's and still get told that "shorts aren't allowed".

 

[bicker]

I still think it is a silly policy because they are creating the situation where something like this can happen in the first place and it is largely unnecessary IMHO.

Unnecessary, yes: People should just comply, without any need for enforcement. People shouldn't put themselves first, not even on vacation, but rather acknowledge that they're one of thousands, and respect that their host is trying to provide environments that meet a wide range of tastes. If you go to a place where the environment isn't intended to be what you want it to be, then it is you who are supposed to adjust; it would be "silly" to expect everyone else there to adjust to your tastes.

 

[bicker]

Guests need to bring only a little extra to ensure they can comply with the reasonable expectations of our host -- that is, of course, assuming that they really don't think they're too important to comply with our host's wishes.

In the end, no one needs to visit the signature restaurants. There is no obligation to do so, and if a guest is not prepared to learn about and comply with what is expected of them there, then they shouldn't.

 

[BCV23]

Was someone told shorts weren't allowed?!? Yikes.

Paco, the VWL are a little smaller than BCV. I'll try to find the numbers. But the impact there should have been smaller as WL is quite a bit smaller than Y&BC I think. We stayed at BC a few times over the years including within the first year it opened. I agree the lobby of the BC is busier now at checkin time but otherwise

None of the deluxe resorts have food courts. I have always imagined that is so guests are more likely to enjoy the full service options at the deluxe resorts.

BCMarketplace does have all the basics for those who want to cook in their villas....really the same selections as the other stores by DVC villas. Many of us prefer the restaurants though. We are another family who travel 1000 miles to enjoy the restaurants although not exclusively. But it is a big part of our vacation.

The food court at the Land closed while Soarin was built and was remodeled. It is open again and I've seen good reports although in all of our trips we have never eaten there. We prefer the full service restaurants because dining IS so much a part of the trip for us.

When I said there were so many more options now, I meant since your family and ours started visiting 26 years ago. There was no V&A, Citricos, Narcoossee's, Artist Point (although I guess that is off your list ), Y&BC choices, Jiko, etc..

I'm not sure WDW agrees with you that BCV was a mistake. The resale prices there are the highest of the DVC resorts and there is apparently a waitlist to add. There are persistent rumors about a CR DVC but who knows...could be wishful thinking.

As another DISser who enjoys the restaurants at WDW, I hope you stay around here and share your experiences. From time to time someone starts a thread about restaurants that have closed or changed. Those are always fun.

 

[BCV23]

Paco, I was wrong about VWL. It is much smaller than I thought...only 136 rooms.

Also wrong that it had more impact. Because if my scribbled numbers are correct, at both resorts DVC units are about 16% of the total.

Using figures from allears, there are 728 rooms at WL and 136 DVC units.

Y&BC have a total of 1213 rooms plus 205 BCV units.

Someone with a calculator want to check for me?

 

[Paco]

The Contemporary, The Polynesian, The Grand Floridian, all have food courts.

Stay around??? If you see my join date, I've been here a while, it's much better lurking. And that's where I'm going back to.

Bicker, ( I see why you picked that name) did you read my earlier post?? It was directed at you. Do you only half read, or are you numb? STEP OFF _ _ _ _ _!!! You're missing the point, it's not about complying or not, it's not about bringing extra clothes, it's not about being too important, it's about informing people in the first place. I was there 2 months ago and and I didn't see a dress code anywhere. Not to mention, on the previous 24 trips, there was no dress code. I have no problem bringing the clothes, but I'm not buying a new wardrobe because they can't do something as simple as ask. All the points of information that's out there for WDW, and they can't put it anywhere??? Goodbye!!! Merry Christmas !!! And Happy New Year!!!!!

 

[bicker]

I read everything; that doesn't mean I agree with everything. However, more importantly, I don't necessarily direct my comments at any one message in particuarly.

However, as I mentioned in my earlier reply, it isn't that much more clothing to bring. And you always have the option to steer clear of the signature restaurants if you don't want to comply with the dress code. Could they put the word out better? Sure. However, you, personally, now know the dress code, so that's no longer relevant to you.

 

[Evans Family]

As the OP who innocently asked if there was a dress code, thank you to all who have posted on this thread.

It is very interesting. I think I'll pack some collared shirts....don't think I'll pack any pants though...think I'll stay with the shorts.

Disney is a vacation destination. People are on vacation...it is Florida and very hot. People spend lots of money to stay on property and eat at the on property restaurants. I think that these facts eliminate a dress code.

I don't think you should be served in your bathing suit, in a tank top...but I think anything else should go.

If the conventioneers and Disney execs want more upscale they need to find an off property restaurant or go to V&A's.

We are Disney Cruise Line patrons....I spend hours packing for that trip. This trip I want to be able to throw some shorts, shirts and comfortable shoes into the bag along with my fanny pack, camera and bathing suit and be done with it. Live like a tourist....not a businessman. Elegance is not on my agenda.

 

[bicker]

Nice dress shorts are perfectly acceptable within the context of Disney's dress code.

 

[Uncleromulus]

And since the original question has long since been answered, I think it's time to close this one out.