Don't stay at the Swan. It's been a nightmare this week

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This thread has had a bit of everything so far... profanity filter violations, political posts, and some posts that are starting to trend a bit too argumentative/personal for DISBoard standards.

I don’t see any reason the thread should be closed, but please keep the conversation on point and respectful.

Thank you.
 
The OP might have booked six rooms - with just one or two people per room. And like someone else said, Covid 'guidelines' not 'enforceable laws'.

Second $2000! charged to the card...wow!!! For some people, their credit card may only have a $2500 limit and suddenly having $2000 of available credit wiped out would definitely ruin a vacation for a couple of days. A lot of people don't have an extra $2,000.00 available on a credit or debit card because of an accidental hotel charge. If you do have an extra $2,000 - good for you!

Someone who booked and paid for 6 rooms plus a suite AND wanted all the resort fees charged to ONE card certainly has more than $2500 worth of available credit on their card.

Heck, I'm just a regular SAHM with a working spouse (military) and we have a total of somewhere around $160,000 of available credit among our credit cards.

And there is no way we would be able to afford to pay for that many rooms.
 
Sorry this all happened and it did not turn out the way you hoped/planned.

Not a question for the OP - but for anyone who might know the process behind a credit. I am always curious when one returns an items is due a credit for whatever reason - does the credit need approval? A charge hits the credit card/account almost instantly - why does a credit not do the same? This is why I am thinking approval maybe? Just curious.

I keep track of my cc statement every day (unfortunately due to my account being compromised more than once in the past). I always make sure the credit is posted before getting rid of my receipt. Proof.

The hold would be tough on someone who is near their credit limit or tying up their account if it's a debit of course. It's a hassle. On one of our trips not long ago, my Gift card was never credited to my bill. I saw it on my email/bill on the drive home. I had to call and give the gift card number it was applied. In the past, I used to throw away or let the CM throw away the card but once before I was credited $25 instead of $100. So I learned to keep the card.

As far as the less desirable room/no balcony - I would be disappointed too - it's a matter to have been handled right there and then perhaps with a supervisor. Perhaps a letter to Marriott/Swan? Not sure it would help - but you can at least voice your concerns.
 

If you have traveled the world then you know that hotels can't just modify their front desk billing system to suit your individual requests.

The resort fee is added to the folio for each room nightly. There is no hotel folio system or workflow to move only the resort fees to your room's folio. You could have prepaid all the resort fees for all the rooms at check-in. This would have been reflected on each folio as a room credit. As an alternative you could have stopped by the front desk on night before checkout and paid the resort fees for each room to clear the folios for check-out processing early on the check-out day.
I worked for a major hotel chain for a while (not Marriott or Disney). You are absolutely correct about the logistics of how the resort fees should work; however, the resort should have explained these options to OP. No one should assume OP knows this, and the front desk shouldn't just be saying "yes" to appease the guest when that's not logistically possible.

you have to ask for it if you expect anything.
I respectfully disagree. Good customer service will offer something as a goodwill gesture without the guest having to ask for it, particularly when its an issue through no fault of the guest such as the double charges or room maintenance issue. Part of me thinks that perhaps the resort is tightening their reins in light of the increased operational expense this year, and perhaps that's why nothing was offered. If that's not the case, then someone at the hotel dropped the ball from a service perspective.

Did they actually charge your credit card or just put a credit authorization your card?
Either way, it puts a hold against their available funds and will take a couple of days to either be refunded or for the hold to fall off, so its kind of a moot point.

You're having an event for six rooms worth of people in the middle of a pandemic. I think you should have expected things to go wrong. I'm surprised they even let you do that.
Why should they expect things to go wrong? The resort has been open since the summer, which is ample time to adjust to their "new normal". And they are operating at a reduced capacity, which means there's less guest volume to contend with. Besides, the issues described by the OP are nothing that relates to changes as a result of the pandemic. These issues could have happened at any time for a myriad of reasons.

why does a credit not do the same?
When you make a charge, you see the funds held against your available balance as an authorization - not a charge. The merchant's swipe/insert authorizes the card for the amount you're attempting to charge to validate you have the available funds on your card to cover the purchase. The charge typically then posts to your balance within 1-5 business days, depending on the speed of your bank. Similarly, when you receive a credit/refund, the bank will process the request from the merchant within 1-5 business days (on average), depending on the speed of your bank. Every bank will have different processing times depending on the volume of customers, how sophisticated their internal systems are, etc. Bank processing, both for credits and debits, occurs through a nightly batch process that happens on business days only - its not instantaneous.
 
When you make a charge, you see the funds held against your available balance as an authorization - not a charge. The merchant's swipe/insert authorizes the card for the amount you're attempting to charge to validate you have the available funds on your card to cover the purchase. The charge typically then posts to your balance within 1-5 business days, depending on the speed of your bank. Similarly, when you receive a credit/refund, the bank will process the request from the merchant within 1-5 business days (on average), depending on the speed of your bank. Every bank will have different processing times depending on the volume of customers, how sophisticated their internal systems are, etc. Bank processing, both for credits and debits, occurs through a nightly batch process that happens on business days only - its not instantaneous.


Thank you. It's not something that I have (credit/refund) often, but some take a day or two and yes, some can take up to a week or more (and we are advised of this and usually happens faster than they say). I thought it went through some sort of approval/audit. It makes sense some (bank/business) have better processing/better up to date technology, etc.
 
We stayed at the Poly club level a few years ago paying rack rate at peak holiday season (ugh). A pipe burst and flooded the room and we had the same issues—moved to a worse room because hotel was full, loads of time lost at the parks moving everything (yes, it did take hours—I have a family of 5 and we had all unpacked our stuff into drawers as it was a long stay). So I sympathize with OP—that alone was enough to make me miserable.

We have also had our share of billing issues at hotels. It goes with the territory and while annoying to resolve, I do know these mistakes happen everywhere.

All a good reminder though that these issues can happen at any level of hotel, even Deluxe club level. We’ve gone back to the Poly and enjoyed ourselves tremendously, and would have missed out if we judged it based on that one trip.

Again, I do feel bad for OP. But I do think it is important to judge hotels based on the more repeatable aspects of the experience—rooms, overall cleanliness, theme/decor, dining, transportation, pools/recreation—rather than a one-off case of bad luck that can happen anywhere.
 
FYI to everyone who says Disney shouldn't be allowing events, all the convention event hotels on Disney property are open and allow conventions of hundreds of people as long as social distancing and masks are worn. Our little event with 14 people is hardly your biggest concern when parks are completely wall to wall people right now. The crowds this weekend were completely insane. lol. I'm pretty sure that our 14 people didn't overrun anything. lol.
 
FYI to everyone who says Disney shouldn't be allowing events, all the convention event hotels on Disney property are open and allow conventions of hundreds of people as long as social distancing and masks are worn. Our little event with 14 people is hardly your biggest concern when parks are completely wall to wall people right now. The crowds this weekend were completely insane. lol. I'm pretty sure that our 14 people didn't overrun anything. lol.

Parks have a capacity limit so highly doubt the exaggerated wall to wall people.
Disney has clearly marked social distancing lines and mask mandate so doubt people were on top of each other

I am sorry about the experience at the Swan- that is inexcusable but not a Disney owned property so issues pertain to hotel owner not Disney. Hopefully they can take care of and compensate you. Hopefully you were able to enjoy the rest of the trip.
 
FYI to everyone who says Disney shouldn't be allowing events, all the convention event hotels on Disney property are open and allow conventions of hundreds of people as long as social distancing and masks are worn. Our little event with 14 people is hardly your biggest concern when parks are completely wall to wall people right now. The crowds this weekend were completely insane. lol. I'm pretty sure that our 14 people didn't overrun anything. lol.

I didn’t realize Disney was allowing conventions right now.

It seems like a hotel suite is a bit small to hold an event with all people properly masked and distanced, which is why I was questioning it.
 
Parks have a capacity limit so highly doubt the exaggerated wall to wall people.
Disney has clearly marked social distancing lines and mask mandate so doubt people were on top of each other
You can see for yourself right now, no reason to "highly doubt." Just opened a live stream of MK on youtube. The MK hub is completely packed full of people watching the castle projections.
 
Judge for yourself.
Parks have a capacity limit so highly doubt the exaggerated wall to wall people.
Disney has clearly marked social distancing lines and mask mandate so doubt people were on top of each other

I am sorry about the experience at the Swan- that is inexcusable but not a Disney owned property so issues pertain to hotel owner not Disney. Hopefully they can take care of and compensate you. Hopefully you were able to enjoy the rest of the trip.


Definitely,the Springs was closed due to Capacity last night.

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We just got back. More busy than we hoped it would be, but yeah, weekdays were fine. Tough social distancing at times but not bad by any means. Weekends were a joke. Just packed with people. No social distancing going on and you couldn't even if you wanted to. Here's Magic Kingdom at 11:00 am on Saturday.
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Angles that photos were taken on make it difficult to see distancing. I visit often, and never see this as an issue. People, for the most part, keep their distance from each other. Now show a photo from being "in" the crowd and just those around you and it will be different.
All first hand info and pictures from people that are/were there. There are other stories of a similar nature on the TPAS board in the Here Now Just Back thread.
It's going to be a cold couple of days in the parks...bundle up!!!! Maybe it won't be as crowded.
 
The $2000 is an UNAUTHORIZED charge....there is no need to wait for a refund, dispute the charge immediately (as I mentioned in a prior post).

If you want to be nice and give them a deadline to refund it, that's fine. But you don't have to do that.
In general you can't dispute a charge until your monthly statement which lists the charge closes.
On vacation. How much time do you want to spend escalating the issue up to hotel manager then to corporate taking care of the charge.
Aren't room charges normally processed at check out. I wonder if it was only an authorization, or if the hotel employee thought it was only an authorization.
 
The issue of losing the balcony alone would irritate me. I am sorry you are having these problems. I have stayed in several hotels for different reasons during the Pandemic. Customer service seems to be lacking. I would have thought the opposite would be true and that hotels would be glad to have business.
I've noticed this too. I thought it was just me.
 
A pipe burst and flooded the room and we had the same issues—moved to a worse room because hotel was full,

Out of curiosity, I am curious how you think they should have handled it since pipes burst without any prior signs. Let you pick your desired room and then they have to go to another family and say “Sorry but you have to move because someone else’s pipe burst and they want this room?” I get that having to repack and move is not ideal, but with the pipes in your room having burst and it being a busy time with a full hotel, I’m not sure where you expected them to move you.
 
Good grief! Can this thread just end? Enough! What more can be said or complained about?
 
So we booked our first resort stay at the Swan several months ago for a large group we had coming to WDW this week. Rates were pretty good and I love the location, so we thought it would definitely be worth the stay.

Nope

Don't do it

Please, I'm begging you not to have to deal with what has happened this week.

We had 6 rooms at the Swan that I paid for and was paying resort fees for

I called the day before check in to tell them not to charge the individual rooms the resort fee, charge it all to my account

At check in, I reminded them that I would be paying for the resort fees and to make sure that those people didn't get charged

None of that happened. They all got charged even after I talked to the manager on day 2

Day 3: they find a major plumbing leak in our suite that they need to tear up the wall to fix. We are forced to move right in the middle of a super busy day and ruined our plans. Nothing was offered for the inconvenience. Got moved to a worse view and took away our balcony

Day 4: an EXTRA $1950 was charged to our account. They charged us for the extra room for the whole week.... and the original room

Day 5: Trying to get the EXTRA $1950 refunded to my account. I was told that THE MARRIOTT doesn't just have $1950 to just refund back right away and that I would have to wait until after check out and talk to the manager that day to try and get my own money back from the hotel that took almost $2000 extra from my account because they messed up

Again, nothing was offered. I was told it must have been a computer glitch and that they were sure it would get figured out in a day or two and then only take 3-5 business days to return to my account after that

Now, I might be crazy, but for the average individual, charging an extra $2000 on their card and refusing to give it back until after they check out can somewhat mess up their vacation plans

I'm fuming right now. I have never seen worse customer service than this. ever. In the history of me traveling monthly for my business all over the world, I have never been treated this poorly.

Don't stay there. It's not worth what you think you'll save. Just don't

What a nightmare!
 
Some of you all are being a bit extra in terms of aggressiveness to the poster here... Sounds like she dropped some serious money down in the middle of the pandemic when they are hurting for cash/business.

I would think some room service and/or a free restaurant voucher wouldn’t kill them as a sign of good faith and thinking she’ll be back dropping big bucks
 














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