Do you use E-cigarettes in the park?

[ckret01]

I'm using a Joye eGo. It's an awesome piece of equipment. So far I've gotten my juices from VaporBomb and FreedomsmokeUSA. And they have been very good. Juices are hard to figure out at first. I smoked for 34 years and just knew my juice would have to taste like a cigarette if I wanted to quit. Turned out I was wrong. I so much prefer the sweet and fruity flavors to the tobacco flavors. So, I'd recommend buying an assortment of sample sizes from different vendors until you find the ones that do it for you.

There's a great forum out there for people interested in e-cigs with a lot of good hearted people willing to help newbies out. Is it against the rules to post a link to another forum?

Thank you so much for the information, I really appreciate it

 

[housemouse]

Wow, kind of surprised they allow that on a commercial plane these days. Even if an airline stated it was okay, i wouldn't for fear of becoming the next news headline if something happened...i could just see it now..."the cigarette bomber"

A lot of airlines don't allow it probably just for that reason. I've read some about people vaping on flights, but the overwhelming majority of them simply go to the bathroom to use it to avoid people freaking out on a plane about it.

 

[Hannathy]

wow I wish these had been around when my Mom was alive. It would have been a God send to let her "smoke" as much as she wanted and not had to constantly argue with her about it. We didn't try to make her quit it wasn't worth it at her age but she couldn't be trusted with a lit cigarette and needed Oxygen so for her to smoke we had to disconnect her and sit with her while she smoked and if she was in the hosp. take her outside, etc and then because she was having some senility problems would forget she had smoked and accuse of of not letting her.

They could really help in nursing homes.

Just hide the lighters or they will be trying to light them.


I can't believe(sadly,sadly yes I can) the people who are freaking out over what is being discharged into the air. You are out in the open people! do you know how much air there is for this vapor to dissipate into?

I think they are great.

 

[disneynutsss]

Then I hope you never develop asthma, because it's in asthma inhalers. And I really hope you never need IV medications because it's found in some of those too.

Oh, you might want to avoid any of the shows at Disney that have fog or smoke effects, cause it's in there too.

Oh dear, I forgot toothpaste......

and:

Propylene glycol is used:
As a solvent in many pharmaceuticals, including oral, injectable and topical formulations. Notably, diazepam, which is insoluble in water, uses propylene glycol as its solvent in its clinical, injectable form.
As a humectant food additive, labeled as E number E1520
As an emulsification agent in Angostura and orange bitters
As a moisturizer in medicines, cosmetics, food, toothpaste, shampoo, mouth wash, hair care and tobacco products
As a carrier in fragrance oils
As an ingredient in massage oils
In hand sanitizers, antibacterial lotions, and saline solutions
In smoke machines to make artificial smoke for use in firefighters' training and theatrical productions
In electronic cigarettes, as a vaporizable base for diluting the nicotine liquid
As a solvent for food colors and flavorings
As an ingredient, along with wax and gelatin, in the production of paintballs
As a moisture stabilizer (humectant) for snus (Swedish style snuff).
As a cooling agent for beer and wine glycol jacketed fermentation tanks
As a non-toxic antifreeze for winterizing drinking water systems, and in applications where the used antifreeze eventually will be drained into the soil, water, or a septic system.
To regulate humidity in a cigar humidor
As an additive to pipe tobacco to prevent dehydration.
To treat livestock ketosis
As the main ingredient in deodorant sticks

The acute oral toxicity of propylene glycol is very low, and large quantities are required to cause perceptible health damage in humans; propylene glycol is metabolized in the human body into pyruvic acid (a normal part of the glucose-metabolism process, readily converted to energy), acetic acid (handled by ethanol-metabolism), lactic acid (a normal acid generally abundant during digestion) , and propionaldehyde.

 

[minniebride]

I quit smoking using the e-cig. Best purchase I ever made! I was a smoker for almost 20 years & had tried a variety of methods to quit. All worked short term and then I would relapse. Then I found the e-cig and switched almost immediately! Now, I actually rarely even use the e-cig. I keep it with me at all times, including when I travel. and it's there if I feel like I need it. I have also brought it to WDW. Used it in the hotel room and while walking around the parks. I would never go to a DSA to use it, as I am also not interested in breathing in 2nd hand smoke or smelling like cigarettes. No one seemed to mind or notice. I did have someone once ask me if it was an inhaler and I told them what it was. They were shocked and commented that it did not smell at all.

 

[disneynutsss]

Because of this thread I have ordered my first e-cigarette starter kit yesterday. I am so excited to be able to smoke without killing myself or others. I hope to quit by utilizing these.

You would think that more people would be happy that smokers are switching to e-cigarettes!

 

[WDWDad]

There was an article in one of the major newspapers a few days ago, sorry I don't remember which , that related the problems that the airlines are having with these devices. The people buying them are being told they are legal and can be smoked anywhere. The airlines make their own rules however and if you have ever tried arguing with a member of a flight crew you will find that they always win. Unfortunatly what the sales person told you doesn't hold alot of weight with the powers that be in most business establishments

The airlines don't like them for alot of reasons, mainly that it makes other passengers uncomfortable. Imagine being a few rows back when the smoke cloud goes up in the air. What are you going to do?

 

[disEAR]

While I don't support smoking of any kind, I commend those that take the effort and initiative to use e-cigs. Anything that means I don't have to breath it in or smell it is alright by me.

So thank you.

Also I would be fine with these being used in the parks.

What would the reaction be if Disney were to ban real cigarettes in their parks but allow e-cigs?

 

[NotUrsula]

I think that they are great as a tobacco-alternative for people who ALREADY smoke tobacco, because they are unquestionably less dangerous than smoking tobacco.

HOWEVER ...

I want them restricted to smoking sections and treated as medical devices, because if we don't, then millions of new users will start using them recreationally because they "look cool", and those people will become addicted to the nicotine. Nicotine is unquestionably addictive and is not otherwise completely benign, either. We should not be encouraging young people to become addicted to it in any form.

And yes, I know that you can get the "juice" in no-nicotine versions, but do you really think that young people who have never smoked tobacco are are likely to go for that, when nicotine has the bonus effect of helping you to keep weight off? No, they'll go for the full octane versions, and there will be a whole new generation as helplessly hooked as our grandparents were. These have the potential to have the nicotine content jacked through the roof if they are not regulated, and what is to stop the mfrs. from adding other controlled substances to the "juice" while they are at it?

PS: When I said that I wanted them restricted to "smoking" sections, I was expressing a preference that they not be used throughout the parks. Perhaps a better way to phrase it is "vaping areas" if that would make you happier -- actually, what I especially want is for them not to be used in areas where children congregate. Millions of young kids who took up smoking did so because they thought it made them look "grown-up" and cool, and if these are accepted everywhere, the same will happen again with e-cigs. So, fine, you don't have to hang out with the tobacco smokers, but I don't want you using the device in a ride line, either. Public use of the devices should be segregated as a disincentive for nonsmokers to use them as a first-choice nicotine delivery device. (Besides that, I've seen no evidence strong enough to convince me that there isn't a release of nicotine into the air -- nicotine is very easily aerosolized.)

 

[famsen]

I bought e-cig for my husband last Christmas. By the end of April, he was completely off cigarettes of any kind. He had been a smoker for about 25 years and e-cigs was the only thing that did the trick for him. I am so proud of him.
He did take the e-cig with him to WDW in April but for our trips in May and September, he no longer needed it.

I have seen more people at the parks using them now and I applaud them for trying to quit smoking.

 

[Planogirl]

There was an article in one of the major newspapers a few days ago, sorry I don't remember which , that related the problems that the airlines are having with these devices. The people buying them are being told they are legal and can be smoked anywhere. The airlines make their own rules however and if you have ever tried arguing with a member of a flight crew you will find that they always win. Unfortunatly what the sales person told you doesn't hold alot of weight with the powers that be in most business establishments

The airlines don't like them for alot of reasons, mainly that it makes other passengers uncomfortable. Imagine being a few rows back when the smoke cloud goes up in the air. What are you going to do?

I'm sorry but the bolded just struck me as funny. Since when do the airlines care about comfort?

Seriously, I can see how seeing a cloud of vapor would shock some people. Maybe once these are more widely used people will relax.

 

[stargazertechie]

I want them restricted to smoking sections and treated as medical devices

Those, my friend, are mutually exclusive events. You can either restrict them to the smoking section, or you can treat them as a medical device. If you choose to treat them as a medical device, then the users would be protected under the ADA, and we would have to afford them reasonable accommodation.

 

[gris gris]

Because of this thread I have ordered my first e-cigarette starter kit yesterday. I am so excited to be able to smoke without killing myself or others. I hope to quit by utilizing these.

You would think that more people would be happy that smokers are switching to e-cigarettes!

What brand did you get?

 

[goingquackers]

I have used my e-cig for about 2 years now. The day it arrived in the mail was the last day I smoked a real cig. I feel so much better now. More energy, my teeth are much whiter. I lost weight.

I have used it in WDW and DL many times. I usually vap in the smoking area, or if I can find a spot out of the way. One time I took a quick vape at the front of epcot and a lady started coughing, and waving her hands.

 

[minniebride]

I do not agree that E-smokers should have to use their e-cigarettes in the DSA sections. Those who use E-cigarettes are doing so because they do not want to inhale cigarette smoke or smell like cigarettes. That is why they switched to the e-cigarette. WDW does not have any issues with people using their e-cigarettes in the hotel rooms; I cannot see them having an issue with allowing people to use them just walking around the parks.

It makes zero sense for someone to have to use their e-cigarette in the DSA section.

 

[nytimez]

Those who use E-cigarettes are doing so because they do not want to inhale cigarette smoke or smell like cigarettes. That is why they switched to the e-cigarette.

Not to be a smarta-- , but there's a really awesome way to do that without using e-cigs.

I actually don't care where people use them. But the desire of the smoker to not smell like smoke is not really a factor.

 

[minniebride]

Not to be a smarta-- , but there's a really awesome way to do that without using e-cigs.

I actually don't care where people use them. But the desire of the smoker to not smell like smoke is not really a factor.

I do not think you are a smarta--.
I think the difference is people choose to use e-cigs because they do not want to be involved with regular cigarettes. E-cigs are in a whole separate category as regular cigarettes. I get that it's hard to understand that & I wish they didn't look so much like a cigarette (though I'm reading on here that they do make some that do not look like cigarettes), but they are very different things. I wouldn't ask a person who is chewing Nicorette to chew in the DSA....& yes I know there is no water vapor with the gum! but e-cigs are still very different from cigarettes, which is why they are allowed in many places that regular cigarettes are not: movie theaters, stores, bars, restaurants, public transportation, etc...

 

[CLR4321]

I have noticed 2 people smoking these at WDW. The ones being used did not smell (not that I could smell at least) and of course didn't emit any sort of smoke. One was at a bus stop and another was walking around in Tomorrowland. The first one was in Tomorrowland, and I thought the person was actually just walking around smoking, until I noticed there was no smoke at all coming from the thing. I think people will wonder like I did, what you are doing, but I wouldn't be concerned. If a CM stops you, just explain that it is basically a nicotine inhaler that doesn't emit any smoke. "Smoking" does literally mean when you are in fact using a device that emits smoke - like cigars, cigs, or pipes. These do not emit smoke, and thus are not "smoking" devices. I would look at these more on the basis of being an inhaler - like what someone with asthma would use, except for nicotine. You may want to buy one that doesn't look like a cig (like a black one) to avoid bringing attention to yourself if you are concerned though.

 

[enyaj40]

I think it's great that these things exist and I'm glad I know what they are. This way I won't be shocked at seeing someone "smoke" one in an unexpected place.

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[disneynutsss]

today i smoke, when my e-cigarette is received in the mail i will vape.

i want to vape because it is better for my health.

if vaping is confined to DSA, isn't that in violation of my rights not to inhale second hand smoke? thus still putting me at risk for anything that may occur with smoking? which kinda defeats the purpose of not smoking?

right now i dont care, but we know that (the majority of) x-smokers are the worst when it comes to smoking and i will probably become one of them, lol

btw, i plan on painting mine purple and covering up the light - so i dont have to "deal" with people.