Those high risk are better off staying away from risky situations and allowing everyone else to catch it and build immunity. Otherwise it will linger around forever. Also, those at high risk need everyone else to pull the weight of running the country so that we remain wealthy enough to care for high risk people. Why do you think we have so many high risk people alive today? In many cases, poor countries have different death numbers because their high risk people are already dead. Sorry to be blunt, but the average person doesn’t usually survive something like kidney disease in, say, India. Also, most places are open in most parts of the country even as we speak. Even under lockdown, very few places are fully closed. So people are getting it everywhere in the USA, but most people just immediately build immunity and fight it off without even knowing they have it.
Oh goodness... As Tiana says... "Please, please, PLEASE" yes! Disney masks. can you imagine how much safer it will be there if people find it cool to wear fancy-schmancy Disney masks?!We aren't scheduled until Feb 2021. I am really hoping that things are settled enough by then that it will be safe to go. I am also expecting Disney to do the Disney Merchandising thing and Facemasks to become the new Mouse Ears.
I just don't see how this works in real life. I think about our church. I'm guessing 60-70 percent are high risk. If high risk means over 60 or with obesity or diabetes or heart or lung issues, then our town itself has at least 50 percent high risk. Who teaches the kids? Who runs the businesses? I just do not see how the high risk stay isolated and yet we keep things running.
I guess. I live in an older population. Too bad for us I guess. Survival of the fittest.330 million people live in the US. 127 million Americans actually work (last number before March 2020). That’s only 38% of Americans who work. Those 127 million carry the rest of the population in one way or another.
I read between 30-40% of the population would be considered at risk. A large percentage rate of at risk people are on social security or disability. You’d be surprised how many don’t work— they are not in the unemployment numbers because they are not actively looking for work. Many more at risk people are retired. It sounds like you live in a less health conscious area than we do that is not representative of the population. The majority of the country could easily get back to work while at risk people stay home. Many at risk people already stay at home. That’s not a slight, just the facts.
We talked about this before we cancelled our April trip before Disney did.I see so many posts speculating on when Disney parks and resorts will reopen. The boards ares loaded with posts of members wondering if they will be able to make there May and June trips. First of all, many are highly disappointed that they had to cancel trips, many are disappointed that they may lose points. When will Disney reopen is the question we seek the answer to every day. But...........
Do you really want to travel to Disney as soon as you are allowed to? At heart we all do, but in the name of safety and practicality how good of an idea is that. The President is itching to reopen the country. His Easter projection is now April 30th. When they wave the green flag and the country reopens, that does not mean the pandemic is over and it is safe to travel. Covid19 will be with us for a long time.
Food for thought. Do you want to be on a plane rebreathing everyone's else's air for hours? What about standing in lines next to people who may be infected and having them cough on your back. Do you want to get on a ride and sit in a seat that an infected person was just sitting in?
This isn't meant to sound like gloom and doom. But so many including my family are itching to get back to the parks. But just be mindful that just because the parks reopen, it doesnt mean its safe to be there. The last thing you want to do is rebook a trip and then have to cancel again possibly losing points if you are outside of a window.
By the way I am a healthcare provider directly treating covid19 patients. This is real. Stay home and be safe, when you can return be careful.
I forget that liking Disney doesn’t translate to “cares about people.”The "you may infect someone else" theory.
Or spreading the disease?I went to the grocery store among the masses yesterday. I wore a mask and gloves. I’d do that at Disney. Doesn’t make for great pictures, but, whatever.
Maybe it does make for great, weird, post-apocalyptic pictures.
Go SOX!Or spreading the disease?
This virus is transmittable through the eyes. I guess your mask goes over your whole head? Why do you think health care workers are in dire need of face shields?Oh goodness... As Tiana says... "Please, please, PLEASE" yes! Disney masks. can you imagine how much safer it will be there if people find it cool to wear fancy-schmancy Disney masks?!❤❤
I forget that liking Disney doesn’t translate to “cares about people.”
One has nothing to do with the other. It isn't not caring about people. That is the equivalent of me saying, I forgot that liking Disney means you live in a fairytale world and can't use rationale decision making skills.
There was a lot on my post of why that theory falls apart. We cannot protect people from this disease, period. Me and you staying home for two years doesn't change the infection rate. The point is to keep infections low enough so that hospitals don't get overwhelmed.
So here is the bottom line. I have a trip booked in June "if" the parks open, but I say I want to protect at risk people (whom I don't live with and don't interact with) so I will put off my trip to next year. Now I am here in my hometown, going to work, going to the store and potentially infecting people here vs there. Or even why would next year be any safer than this year......
Why everyone making decisions for themselves is the only way to move forward. An at risk person, just like in flu season, may not want to go to Disney, because the risk is high and they know they will come in contact with more people than normal. So they curtail their trip appropriately. This is a normal response and as another poster put out there, getting the healthy through the infection and build immunity will actually help the vulnerable long term.
One has nothing to do with the other. It isn't not caring about people. That is the equivalent of me saying, I forgot that liking Disney means you live in a fairytale world and can't use rationale decision making skills.
There was a lot on my post of why that theory falls apart. We cannot protect people from this disease, period. Me and you staying home for two years doesn't change the infection rate. The point is to keep infections low enough so that hospitals don't get overwhelmed.
So here is the bottom line. I have a trip booked in June "if" the parks open, but I say I want to protect at risk people (whom I don't live with and don't interact with) so I will put off my trip to next year. Now I am here in my hometown, going to work, going to the store and potentially infecting people here vs there. Or even why would next year be any safer than this year......
Why everyone making decisions for themselves is the only way to move forward. An at risk person, just like in flu season, may not want to go to Disney, because the risk is high and they know they will come in contact with more people than normal. So they curtail their trip appropriately. This is a normal response and as another poster put out there, getting the healthy through the infection and build immunity will actually help the vulnerable long term.
I guess. I live in an older population. Too bad for us I guess. Survival of the fittest.
330 million people live in the US. 127 million Americans actually work (last number before March 2020). That’s only 38% of Americans who work. Those 127 million carry the rest of the population in one way or another.
I read between 30-40% of the population would be considered at risk. A large percentage rate of at risk people are on social security or disability. You’d be surprised how many don’t work— they are not in the unemployment numbers because they are not actively looking for work. Many more at risk people are retired. It sounds like you live in a less health conscious area than we do that is not representative of the population. The majority of the country could easily get back to work while at risk people stay home. Many at risk people already stay at home. That’s not a slight, just the facts.
I guess. I live in an older population. Too bad for us I guess. Survival of the fittest.
The problem is my choices may kill the ones I love. How do I live my life so I do not infect my mom or my mother-in-law? So I get to go out and "live" and go to Disney . But that means I cannot interact with them. It means they stay trapped in their houses while I am free. Somehow that feels unfair or penalizing them. Does that make sense?You wrote this best! This is the truth! While we have to do our best to be considerate of others, I.e don't cough straight at someone, or shake someones hand after you coughed in it and so on, we can't fully protect everyone and we have to be responsible for our own self. Everyone makes choices in life based on their view of risk,enjoyment, need, and so on.
The problem is my choices may kill the ones I love. How do I live my life so I do not infect my mom or my mother-in-law? So I get to go out and "live" and go to Disney . But that means I cannot interact with them. It means they stay trapped in their houses while I am free. Somehow that feels unfair or penalizing them. Does that make sense?
This virus is transmittable through the eyes. I guess your mask goes over your whole head? Why do you think health care workers are in dire need of face shields?